On Mon, 2013-11-25 at 07:53 +, step...@melbpc.org.au wrote:
> Karl thoughtfully writes,
> > .. someone who is trying to shoot you is a very dangerous opponent,
> > even if, for the moment, their shots are all wide. And someone with
> > a loaded gun should be treated as dangerous, even if they h
Karl thoughtfully writes,
> > This NSA document is(was) the National Security
> > Agency Mission Statement.
> > [...]
> > What a laugh, you NSA cowboy idiots.
>
> .. someone who is trying to shoot you is a very dangerous opponent,
> even if, for the moment, their shots are all wide. And someone w
On 25/11/2013 1:37 PM, Jan Whitaker wrote:
> At 12:09 PM 25/11/2013, jore wrote:
>> But if your point is about so-called "al-Qaeda", give me a break. That's
>> another million dollar, million page scam that everyone has conviently
>> forgot too. And it's another that's well documented: They were fu
At 12:09 PM 25/11/2013, jore wrote:
>But if your point is about so-called "al-Qaeda", give me a break. That's
>another million dollar, million page scam that everyone has conviently
>forgot too. And it's another that's well documented: They were funded,
>trained and protected by the United States d
On Sun, 2013-11-24 at 11:09 +, step...@melbpc.org.au wrote:
> This NSA document is(was) the National Security Agency Mission Statement.
> [...]
> What a laugh, you NSA cowboy idiots.
They may not have succeeded in their stated aims - but they may still be
trying to and their stated aims may n
On 25/11/2013 7:28 AM, Jan Whitaker wrote:
> At 12:10 AM 25/11/2013, jore wrote:
>> For example, the best bits I like is evidence of ASIO *supporting* and
>> *protecting* terrorist groups such as the Croatian Ustaše by safely
>> trafficking them into Australia...
> Like they always say, one spook's
This is an interesting piece on the uselessness of spying from John
Quiggin. His argument is less about moral transgression and more about the
practical issue of it being a waste or resources. You don't get a lot for
a billion dollars dollars:
"I’ve long maintained the view that spies never disc
At 12:10 AM 25/11/2013, jore wrote:
>For example, the best bits I like is evidence of ASIO *supporting* and
>*protecting* terrorist groups such as the Croatian Ustae by safely
>trafficking them into Australia...
Like they always say, one spook's terrorist is
another spook's freedom fighter, and
On 24/11/2013 10:09 PM, step...@melbpc.org.au wrote:
> ...
>
> ... For what it's worth, I regard the NSA as an IDIOT gang of
> illegal, criminal thugs. Also perhaps, international terrorists themselves.
Totally, indeed, and as we see.
One great book (of many) that comes to mind about this very p
This NSA document is(was) the National Security Agency Mission Statement.
It was intended to cover the 2012-2016 period, and was written early 2012
just before Snowdens leaks, so it illuminates NSA official thinking before
Snowden upset their political plotting.
Bear in mind, when reading it,
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