Re: [LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

2016-06-01 Thread Jim Birch
Andy Farkas wrote: > I think there will always be non-autonomous vehicles. And humans will always play chess. However, motor biking is clearly within the scope of robotics. They just aren't challenging the best riders, yet. We walk over machines for general intelligence but for sensors,

Re: [LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

2016-06-01 Thread Bernard Robertson-Dunn
On 2/06/2016 2:38 AM, Frank O'Connor wrote: > See, I’m still an optimist. :) and I'm still a cautious, pragmatic realist. And as I said once before on Link, I am not a seeker after truth ... just evidence. I will draw my own conclusions. -- Regards brd Bernard Robertson-Dunn Sydney

Re: [LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

2016-06-01 Thread Frank O'Connor
Sorry, fired that last puppy off before I’d finished. > On 1 Jun 2016, at 11:11 PM, Bernard Robertson-Dunn > wrote: > > Table 1 > 1970-1982 road deaths were over 1000/year peaking in 1978 at 1384 > The latest year reported, 2014 was 303. > > Deaths per 1000 persons > 1978

Re: [LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

2016-06-01 Thread Bernard Robertson-Dunn
On 1/06/2016 6:01 PM, Frank O'Connor wrote: > And I take your comments regarding your engineering expertise advisedly, but > am at a loss for your refusal to admit that over time vehicle safety and > controllability has been improved by previous incremental engineering, > automation and

Re: [LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

2016-06-01 Thread Frank O'Connor
Yo Ivan, > On 1 Jun 2016, at 6:24 PM, Ivan Trundle wrote: > > >> On 1 Jun 2016, at 6:01 PM, Frank O'Connor >> wrote: >> >> And yes, I know it’s great to have a ‘backup system’ to the auto-pilot in a >> plane, and I doubt I wold want to fly in

Re: [LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

2016-06-01 Thread Ivan Trundle
> On 1 Jun 2016, at 6:01 PM, Frank O'Connor wrote: > > And yes, I know it’s great to have a ‘backup system’ to the auto-pilot in a > plane, and I doubt I wold want to fly in a plane that didn’t have one … but > that doesn’t take away from the effectiveness and

Re: [LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

2016-06-01 Thread Frank O'Connor
Yo BRD, Keeping this private … :) > On 1 Jun 2016, at 5:02 PM, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: > > On 1/06/2016 4:24 PM, Frank O'Connor wrote: >> Actually, commercial aeroplanes have pretty much been fully automated. You >> can enter coordinates/destinations/flight

Re: [LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

2016-06-01 Thread Bernard Robertson-Dunn
On 1/06/2016 4:24 PM, Frank O'Connor wrote: > Actually, commercial aeroplanes have pretty much been fully automated. You > can enter coordinates/destinations/flight plans into the modern autopilot and > the plane will take off, fly to the destination and land without any human > intervention at

Re: [LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

2016-06-01 Thread Paul Brooks
On 1/06/2016 2:34 PM, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: > > How about off-road driving? Dirt tracks, driveways, ad hoc parking, > grass verge parking, tradesmen's utes, caravan/horsebox/boat/trailer towing? off road, dirt tracks, autonomous controlled drifting slides.

Re: [LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

2016-06-01 Thread Frank O'Connor
G’day BRD, > On 1 Jun 2016, at 3:33 PM, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: > > If you look at flying air planes, why are they not all fully automatic? > Flying a plane is a far simpler problem. The reasons why planes haven't > been fully automated may well apply to cars. And

Re: [LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

2016-05-31 Thread Bernard Robertson-Dunn
On 1/06/2016 3:10 PM, Frank O'Connor wrote: > So you’d consider a demented 90 year old driving with no controls, > someone ill with a high fever, headache or delusions bought on by > same, someone going through a schizoid episode, a hyper aggressive > Double Y hormone man, a drunk or stoned

Re: [LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

2016-05-31 Thread Frank O'Connor
Yo BRD, > On 1 Jun 2016, at 2:34 PM, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: > > On 1/06/2016 2:12 PM, Frank O'Connor wrote: >> Mmmm, >> >> As will the attendant hardware - and no I don’t just mean the cars. >> >> Roads will need to be maintained with highly visible white marking

Re: [LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

2016-05-31 Thread Bernard Robertson-Dunn
On 1/06/2016 2:12 PM, Frank O'Connor wrote: > Mmmm, > > As will the attendant hardware - and no I don’t just mean the cars. > > Roads will need to be maintained with highly visible white marking and/or > embedded sensors. How about off-road driving? Dirt tracks, driveways, ad hoc parking, grass

Re: [LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

2016-05-31 Thread JanW
At 01:37 PM 1/06/2016, Jim Birch wrote: >(Smart and attentive) humans are currently better and more adaptable >drivers. It's a matter of when, not if, they get overtaken for each >different driving requirement. This is pretty much how goes, whether for >chess, tennis line calls, or driving.

Re: [LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

2016-05-31 Thread Frank O'Connor
Mmmm, As will the attendant hardware - and no I don’t just mean the cars. Roads will need to be maintained with highly visible white marking and/or embedded sensors. GPS satellites will have to improve from their current accurate within 50 metres, to accurate within 5 … and not be subject to

Re: [LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

2016-05-31 Thread Jim Birch
Driving software will improve relentlessly. It's on a different curve to human driving. (Smart and attentive) humans are currently better and more adaptable drivers. It's a matter of when, not if, they get overtaken for each different driving requirement. This is pretty much how goes, whether

Re: [LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

2016-05-31 Thread Bernard Robertson-Dunn
On 31/05/2016 4:56 PM, David Boxall wrote: > > >> “Even if human driving can (and must) continue on public roads for >> many years to come, consumers may quickly perceive the task of >>

[LINK] Will humans be banned from driving?

2016-05-31 Thread David Boxall
“Even if human driving can (and must) continue on public roads for many years to come, consumers may quickly perceive the task of operating their own vehicle as a risky lifestyle choice.”