Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Katherine Mcmillan
Hi Ian, A friend of mine saw Michael Anderson driving around Ottawa with that license plate and took a picture, which they shared with me, and I will happily shared with you. I shared it with the OSCAR EMR mailing list, sometime shortly after this (OCLUG) user group had Dr. David Chan speak

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Ian! D. Allen
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 06:20:55PM -0500, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > Btw Ian, do you still have that snazzy license plate? At the time I bought "DR LINUX" I didn't even own a car. I gave the plate as a gift to Michael Anderson. I finally bought half of my wife's car a few years ago, and the

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread James
Jan 25, 2024 5:00:49 PM Dianne Skoll : Hi, I would call this a MAJOR obstacle. I am missing something.  What was the original email that started this thread off? I thought it was just me who didn't get the email. :-) To unsubscribe send a blank message to

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Katherine Mcmillan
Hi John and Ian, Agreed, it seemed like there was some discussion around fees for members some months ago after the NCF $$ hand-over. If Dianne is volunteering to help with this, I think we would be foolish to not accept such an offer. Dianne, if you need any help, please let me know. Btw

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Ian! D. Allen
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 05:31:42PM -0500, Richard Guy Briggs wrote: > I think it happenned 5 months ago. Sorry, John replied to an August 5 message today and that pulled that thread down into the present in mutt and I didn't notice that it was old news. From: J C Nash Subject: [linux]

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Nash JC - NCF
As far as I am aware, there's no intent that Linux-Ottawa folk should have to pay for joining a mailing list. There was a note in one earlier post (some months ago) that NCF had some legacy setup that restricted some of their facilities to "members" and that we might have to sort out details.

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Richard Guy Briggs
On 2024-01-25 14:17, Ron / BCLUG wrote: > Dianne Skoll wrote on 2024-01-25 14:00: > > >>I would call this a MAJOR obstacle. > > > >I am missing something. What was the original email that started this > >thread off? What is the "this" that is a major obstacle? That email > >seems not to have

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Ron / BCLUG
Dianne Skoll wrote on 2024-01-25 14:00: I would call this a MAJOR obstacle. I am missing something. What was the original email that started this thread off? What is the "this" that is a major obstacle? That email seems not to have reached me. Same here - seems like the conversation

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Dianne Skoll
Hi, > I would call this a MAJOR obstacle. I am missing something. What was the original email that started this thread off? What is the "this" that is a major obstacle? That email seems not to have reached me. :( Regards, Dianne. To unsubscribe send a blank message to

Re: Another mailing list option (was Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself)

2024-01-25 Thread James
On 2024-01-25 16:38, Dianne Skoll wrote: Hi again, So here's another option... the OCLUG machine runs Postfix, I believe. So rather than changing the mailing list software, we could install Mailmunge (https://mailmunge.org) and have it fix up the headers after the fact. By this, I mean: 1)

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Katherine Mcmillan
I am in agreement with JF Sincerely, Katie From: Jean-Francois Messier Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 4:50:33 PM To: Ian! D. Allen Cc: Linux-Ottawa Subject: Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration Attention : courriel externe | external email I would

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Jean-Francois Messier
I would call this a MAJOR obstacle. If Freenet/NCF is hoping to get money from everyone joining this list on an annual basis, although OCLUG gave them thousands of dollars already, we should dissociate from Freenet/NCF. The decision to send the money to NCF was an honest mistake, but let's not

Another mailing list option (was Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself)

2024-01-25 Thread Dianne Skoll
Hi again, So here's another option... the OCLUG machine runs Postfix, I believe. So rather than changing the mailing list software, we could install Mailmunge (https://mailmunge.org) and have it fix up the headers after the fact. By this, I mean: 1) Rewrite the From: header for all outbound

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Ian! D. Allen
Re: - Yes, I'd call it an obstacle - I agree [...] Is not going to work. - I agree. While the money is not a problem for me it is sort of offensive. The new person joining does not have to pay this fee. Imagine this: "Hello and welcome to OCLUG. We have teamed up with the local Free-Net to

Re: Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself

2024-01-25 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 13:19:21 -0800 Ron / BCLUG wrote: > Since mailman2 requires python2, which has been deprecated since > 2020, might be worth going to mailman3. Oh, huh. I looked at mailman3, but it's very different from mailman2 and integrates very differently with the MTA (it require an

Re: Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself

2024-01-25 Thread Ron / BCLUG
Dianne Skoll wrote on 2024-01-25 12:59: I'd be willing to have a look on the server and see how easy it would be to change to the latest 2.x release of GNU Mailman. Since mailman2 requires python2, which has been deprecated since 2020, might be worth going to mailman3. I've got some

Re: Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself

2024-01-25 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:22:03 -0500 Nash JC - NCF wrote: > Does anyone have sufficient motivation to replace the maillist s/w? I'd be willing to have a look on the server and see how easy it would be to change to the latest 2.x release of GNU Mailman. If it's something I could do in less than a

Re: Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself

2024-01-25 Thread Nash JC - NCF
Perhaps I should have said that unless someone volunteers, what we have is what will be available, rather than commenting on the properties of mlmmj. Linux-Ottawa is purely volunteer supported. As will all such groups, that's its strength and also weakness. Does anyone have sufficient

Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself

2024-01-25 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:52:43 -0500 Alex Pilon wrote: > DKIM is not the job of the mailing list, but of OpenDKIM via Postfix. > The outbound path should look like this: > mlmmj -> /usr/bin/sendmail -> Postfix -> OpenDKIM -> Postfix -> > Internet It's not that simple. You also have to

Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself

2024-01-25 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:30:07 -0500 Nash JC - NCF wrote: > Like many things, what we have more or less works, I don't agree with that assessment... > so there's not a lot of incentive to fix the edge cases. Both of the large email providers (Google and Microsoft) are starting to crack down and

Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself

2024-01-25 Thread Alex Pilon
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 02:30:07PM -0500, Nash JC - NCF wrote: > I just downloaded mlmmj source code and docs and a text search did not > get a hit on DKIM, so probably does not support it. DKIM is not the job of the mailing list, but of OpenDKIM via Postfix. The outbound path should look like

Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself

2024-01-25 Thread Nash JC - NCF
We've been using mlmmj. Scott has kept it running, but I'm pretty sure he's happy if someone would set up something better. However, we've had people say they were going to do that, then not carry through. Like many things, what we have more or less works, so there's not a lot of incentive to

Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself

2024-01-25 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 13:32:23 -0500 Alan McKay wrote: > Here is a curious issue that I see on this list only - gmail flags my > own emails as potential spam. This is a longstanding problem with the OCLUG list software. If you use DKIM, then this list breaks DKIM. And gmail.com uses DKIM. I've

[linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself

2024-01-25 Thread Alan McKay
Here is a curious issue that I see on this list only - gmail flags my own emails as potential spam. What the heck? Is there some kind of non-standard tomfoolery going on with this list? I run a mailman list server in the amazon cloud and some of the lists are hundreds of emails a day with at

Re: "email software" (was Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration)

2024-01-25 Thread Richard Guy Briggs
On 2024-01-25 13:16, Alan McKay wrote: > Zimbra is amazing and this is really bad news! > > My company switched to MS Outlook about 3 years ago and it is complete > garbage compared to Zimbra - in terms of being able to search email > and also the calendar is a lot weaker. I miss Zimbra almost

Re: "email software" (was Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration)

2024-01-25 Thread Alan McKay
Is Kerio mail still around? It was very similar to Zimbra but haven't really looked at it in 12 years. Google shows something pop up but not sure if it is still free To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to

Re: "email software" (was Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration)

2024-01-25 Thread Alan McKay
Zimbra is amazing and this is really bad news! My company switched to MS Outlook about 3 years ago and it is complete garbage compared to Zimbra - in terms of being able to search email and also the calendar is a lot weaker. I miss Zimbra almost daily To unsubscribe send a blank message to

Re: "email software" (was Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration)

2024-01-25 Thread J C Nash
Thanks for pointers Diane. Indeed Zimbra has calendaring, and it is an important feature. I use it because when I was using a google calendar I seemed to get emails related to my calendar content. Since medical appointments get put on calendars, this isn't something I regard as a positive