, Dianne Skoll wrote:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 13:16:20 -0400
J C Nash wrote:
- engaging with Linux-Ottawa participants in discussions to help NCF
select email software as Zimbra is going to become proprietary.
NCF would prefer open source, but needs a solution well-suited to
very non-tech users
I posted (or tried to) a query to ask if anyone else in Linux Ottawa affected.
It seems some activity going on, but not with Ubuntu/Canonical yet.
I'd welcome sharing any try-out of the ideas in the material below. Could be
messy
from reading it. More eyes on any process the better.
Best, JN
To answer just one:
Yes, nation-states ultimately have the advantage because they have,
well, armies and such. But IMO, the tech giants have become
dangerously powerful... powerful enought to actually start challenging
some nation-states.
The British and Dutch East India Companies had their
And I am in agreement. However, to not make clear what we expect then get
a surprise would not be good.
JN
On 2023-08-05 14:03, James wrote:
Aug. 5, 2023 13:42:58 Katherine Mcmillan :
Hello all,
I agree with Alayne, this: "OCLUG gave NCF $4247.90 -- and now the NCF wants to
charge
Following up discussions at the Virtual meeting on Thursday Aug 3
and telephone conversation I had with Shelley Robinson (Exec. Director
of NCF), here are some points for consideration of how Linux-Ottawa
may move forward.
Background:
With declining participation and willingness to serve on the
Spamhaus changed the rules on their blocklist service that stopped emails to
some
recipient sites. Scott has kindly reset things.
JN
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This is to confirm the dissolution of OCLUG corporation and the donation of the
residue of our
monies to the National Capital Freenet. The main page of a report is attached.
The full document
is too large for email.
NCF is interested in having our input to enhance the appreciation and use of
This may seem a bit silly, but I want to take some plain HTML articles and
put them on Gitlab Pages (myname.gitlab.io). They go in the public/ subdirectory
and seem to show up OK. However, I'd like to tag them by a few simple labels,
in particular "computation", "social commentary", "R",
Informal donations. A couple of people commented at meetings or on this list
that they'd
offer to hose wiki or mailing list. I suspect the reality could be a bit less
generous,
but I think we'll find some way to keep things going, though it may be less
fancy.
Scott noted that there are
Apologies
https://web.ncf.ca/nashjc/FileManagement/
The NCF discussion list software seems to like to convert stuff to caps. Sigh
I actually copied a working link -- the one above.
JN
On 2023-03-22 11:26, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
On 2023-03-22 11:21, J C Nash wrote:
less in the concepts
Apologies for those on NCF who might see this in the help discussion where I
posted the msg.
Over the years I've been very interested in tools to facilitate better computer file management. Recently I came across
a tutorial that we gave several times in the 1980s in Canada and New Zealand and
Nice. And mostly suitable for non-computer types.
JN
On 2023-03-21 14:11, Dianne Skoll wrote:
On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 14:09:20 -0400
J C Nash wrote:
I'm wondering if the phone app (downloaded with wifi for example)
would work when NOT connected to a network, which is the usual state,
as I turn
Recently I noticed that my OVH VPS prompted me to set up two factor
authentication (2FA)
I use my cell phone to get SMS messages with 2FA codes. But my service is only
voice and SMS.
I don't have data service, and so far haven't needed or wanted it.
Though the docs (and the help chat -- they
I was running snap installs of these.
https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/8296
"Ubuntu snap cannot work on ZFS #8296"
suggests there is some sort of sandboxing that prevents zfs access.
FWIW, I managed to compile czkawka_gui and get it to work with zfs and Double
Commander
so I can click
is fine too. So there seems to be some
nonsense with flatpak
and snap versions.
I'll have to look for a workable fslint that isn't a snap -- it has a few
features that czkawka
does not.
Cheers, JN
On 2023-03-09 13:50, J C Nash wrote:
Dedup software fslint and czkawka are quite useful
Dedup software fslint and czkawka are quite useful in eliminating big
duplicates within a collection.
However, when I apply them to a directory in a zfs volume, the path is changed
to /var/lib/snapd/void
and I cannot seem to specify manually.
Any suggestions?
John Nash
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A friend has asked me about a file deduplication job that involves "unix".
It's something many of you know is of interest to me as a subject (namely my
Remove from A If In B utility)
and some other tools. I was asked if I'd be interested in a contract. However,
my guess is that amount
will
I've been using Mint for several years now and been relatively happy.
I've also tried Debian and MX and installed them with reasonable
satisfaction.
In technology, personalities often move the frontier, but also cause
great upset and hurt:
- Steve Jobs
- (choose your Micro$oft personality)
-
The list essentially defines the membership of Linux Ottawa, which formerly was
called Ottawa Carleton
Linux Users Group. However, one of our former members owned the domain name
oclug.on.ca, which was
a bit awkward.
The recent request by the "secretary" to confirm legal names is so we have
works. Note that just fslint isn't an executable.
Not sure which of fslint-gui and czkawka I prefer.
Cheers, JN
On 2022-12-09 18:09, J C Nash wrote:
I have a pair of SATA spinning disks set up as a zfs mirrored pair.
This is NOT my boot volume which is an NVME volume. I use it for
my data archive
I have a pair of SATA spinning disks set up as a zfs mirrored pair.
This is NOT my boot volume which is an NVME volume. I use it for
my data archive, seen via
john@M21:~$ ls /m21z/m21store
2offload archive extraset mainset OEDback temp
4Gramps dvdprep JOHN MARY tcfiles
FWIW, I discovered that having an old Win7 "product key" (the bunch of 5
character codes) allows a
"legal" (I won't pretend that is not a Microsoft promoted idea) Win10 iso to be
installed. I do it
as a VM to have Windows-only tools e.g., downloading books from public library
since Adobe
There has been no offer for this Thurs. Our Board meeting didn't happen this
month, likely due to Halloween and people having things to do in other aspects
of life.
Tentatively, no meeting. (Personally I have another obligation every Thurs with
a group that is very active at the moment, but
See below.
On Wed, 2022-10-05 at 23:46 -0400, Dmitriy Korovkin wrote:
> As far as I am concern, on-line. John will post the announcement.
>
> Regards,
> /Dmitriy
>
> On Wed, 5 Oct, 2022 at 11:18 PM, Jean-Francois Messier
> wrote:
> > In-person, or only online ? And how to connect ? Thanks :-)
upgrades.
As a side note, I take it that the October meeting is going to be OpenSource
home automation. Correct me if I am wrong.
Regards,
/Dmitriy
On Tue, 13 Sep, 2022 at 1:23 PM, J C Nash wrote:
Hi, Recently upgraded my wife's machine from Linux Mint 20.3 to Linux Mint 21. We decided to use
Hi,
Recently upgraded my wife's machine from Linux Mint 20.3 to Linux Mint 21.
We decided to use the "install beside" option. This took the 500GB nvme disk and
shrank the LM20.3 partition (leaving GPT partition) to about 300GB, created a
new approx 200GB partition and installed LM21 in the
First, many thanks to all who contributed. I believe Katherine, who did lion's
share of run-around
that always attaches to meeting organization, deserves applause. She has said
she will send thanks
to David Chan (but perhaps copy the list -- it would be useful to have his
email to share
Seems like we've been able to start the jit.si link.
JN
On 2022-09-01 19:12, Jean-Francois Messier wrote:
We are on the video call , but we do not see anybody from Ottawa U.
Thanks :-)
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Sorry. Waiting for Katherine. She set up jit.si, but she's not here yet.
Turned out there is construction blocking entrance to building.
Sigh.
JN
On 2022-09-01 19:12, Jean-Francois Messier wrote:
We are on the video call , but we do not see anybody from Ottawa U.
Thanks :-)
To
Katie Mcmillan tried to send out a survey to ask about
possible attendance at a Linux meeting she's organizing.
Seems it didn't get sent out by our list system.
Did anyone get the message?
JN
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Link did NOT work. Don't know why.
However
https://meet.jit.si/AdditionalMarathonsThrowApparently
Seems to be up.
JN
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I'll open it and we'll see if it works. Now approx. 18:15
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Just to be clear: Is this a device that plugs into HDMI on one machine and into
USB3 on another?
That is, we're capturing output to HDMI "screen".
JN
On 2022-07-30 09:04, Aaron Wilcox wrote:
ClonerAlliance claims that all of their USB video capture devices are Linux compatible via the Linux
Meeting Announcement
Linux-Ottawa August 4 2022 Meeting.
We're uncancelled!
Jean-Francois Messier will present a discussion on Ventoy, the multi-OS
live-USB system.
John Nash will set up a Jitsi instance on either meet.jit.si around 18:30 and post link on this page and send to the
list as
Meeting Announcement
Linux-Ottawa August 4 2022 Meeting tentatively CANCELLED
If there are offers to speak or lead a discussion, John Nash will set up a Jitsi instance on either Framatalk or Jit.si.
nashjc _at_ uottawa.ca
Katherine McMillan is in communication with the Professional
To lean towards the positive, any advocacy for Linux and/or open source needs
good
examples of successes. My experience has been that most of the blockage of FLOSS
solutions has been unrelated to technical or managerial merit and has arisen
much
as any competition for a contract. Hence my
but very much directed towards physicians.
Sincerely,
Katie
--------
*From:* J C Nash
*Sent:* 03 July 2022 17:24
*To:* Katherine Mcmillan ; Linux-Ottawa
*Subject:* Re: [linux] Meeting Ann
to be in-person/hybrid?
Sincerely,
Katie
*From:* J C Nash
*Sent:* 03 July 2022 17:10
*To:* Linux-Ottawa
*Subject:* [linux] Meeting Announcement
Attention : courriel externe
Meeting Announcement
Linux-Ottawa July 2022 Meeting CANCELLED
We have had no offers to speak or help out, and the organizers either have been
or will be away this week.
John Nash will attempt to set up something for August. If anyone has a topic for which they can present some ideas or
lead
Did nobody look at the wiki?
I got no response to any queries over several days, so put up a "no meeting".
JN
On 2022-06-02 18:59, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
On 2022-06-02 18:53, Jean-Francois Messier wrote:
We did not see any code for tonight's meeting. Or did I miss something ?
Thanks JF,
I have a D-Link DAP-1320 range extender. Used to work well, but when I tested
last
week I can't seem to get it to do the admin functions (tried resetting twice).
It does respond to ping, and "sort of" will show the login. I suspect some
change
in browser standards. Not tried the WPS button.
https://framatalk.org/3myrenkxm69u1a
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As an experiment we will be trying the framatalk jitsi server. This avoids us
having to set up a virtual machine and install and manage jitsi.
The link will be emailed at around 18:45 Thurs May 5. We will attempt to
get it on the wiki.linux-ottawa.org main page at the same time.
John Nash for
Linux-Ottawa May 2022 Meeting
This month Tug Williams and John Nash will lead a discussion on the future of
Linux Ottawa and similar volunteer groups and the role of technology in their
evolution.
When: 1900 May 5, 2022
Where: Online via jitsi at link / code
Send me a request if you need an invite for oclug.slack.com
JN
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09:48:31 J C Nash :
Agenda for Linux Ottawa Board meeting 2022-4-25 19:00
Virtual meeting open to Linux-Ottawa list members. If you have items
you want added to the agenda, please send to nashjc _at_ ncf.ca or
tug.williams _at_ gmail.com.
Meeting will be on oclug.slack.com. (And, yes, we prefer
with/take on the bookkeeping or tax filings if necessary, or other finance
related questions.
Happy to provide more information or answer any questions!
Nick
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022, at 09:48, J C Nash wrote:
Agenda for Linux Ottawa Board meeting 2022-4-25 19:00
Virtual meeting open to Linux
ome responsibilities, and I can
honestly say I wish we didn't. I'd rather spend time improving IRC client than
fiddling with gov't forms.
JN
On 2022-04-22 18:53, Aaron Wilcox wrote:
Was this thread supposed to be posted to the entire Linux Ottawa mailing list?
On 2022-04-21 09:48, J C Nash wrote
1, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
On 2022-04-21 09:48, J C Nash wrote:
Agenda for Linux Ottawa Board meeting 2022-4-25 19:00
Virtual meeting open to Linux-Ottawa list members. If you have items
you want added to the agenda, please send to nashjc _at_ ncf.ca or
tug.williams _at_ gmail.com
Agenda for Linux Ottawa Board meeting 2022-4-25 19:00
Virtual meeting open to Linux-Ottawa list members. If you have items
you want added to the agenda, please send to nashjc _at_ ncf.ca or
tug.williams _at_ gmail.com.
Meeting will be on oclug.slack.com. (And, yes, we prefer fully open
source
Following up my earlier post about installing VirtualBox on a new HP laptop that
is dual boot Windows 11 and Linux Mint 20.3 with Secure Boot enabled.
This machine was running fairly well with both operating systems functioning
properly as far as I could determine. (There were, and are, still
Last July I bought an HP laptop from Canada Computers. They were a good
value (Ryzen 7, 16 GB, 1TB SSD for $949 pre tax on 14"). I know two other
people got similar machines -- my research suggests about $150+ less than
anything close in specs.
Then the machine had Win10, and I sorted out dual
Just a reminder -- we do need quorum.
JN
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Others likely have more expertise in doing the details directly than I do, but
I've had some
success with the grub-customizer application that in my experience has shown
the available
distros and allows some adjustment of the boot up.
JN
On 2022-02-09 13:02, David Baril (dpba...@gmail.com)
Tentatively one of our group has indicated they are willing to take the lot,
which makes life much easier for me.
If that falls through, I'll re-post.
Thanks to the (much larger than expected) group who responded.
JN
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We have rather a lot of books and it is time to pass them on to those who can
use them. You can see what we have by going to
https://web.ncf.ca/nashjc/books/
There are html and xls formats of the list.
Please email me at nas...@ncf.ca if you are interested in any of these.
You are welcome to
On my rather quirky Android Leagoo phone, I have to open the settings
and then find (i.e., search for) USB Preferences and set "File Transfers"
on. Then a USB charging cable will work to show a "drive". I use Double
Commander or mc (mc is run in a terminal).
Double commander can be installed
After reading some manual stuff and some online comments, as well as responses
from this
group (thanks!), I decided it was simplest to update my router. I got an Asus
RT-AC66U from
Canada Computers for ~$100. It is supposedly compatible with Tomato if I wish
to use that,
but for the moment I
I've been using a Linksys WRT54GL since about 2005 as my router behind a
modem-router. The setup currently uses a Smart/RG modem router on
192.168.1.1 and the Linksys as 192.168.9.1. The latter network is
for my wife and I, our Synology workstation and printer. The Smart/RG
connections are used
;
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 3:26 AM mailto:t...@sentex.ca>>
> wrote:
>
> Quoting J C Nash mailto:profjcn...@gmail.com>>:
>
> > Thanks Tom, for giving Marlene a hand.
>
> I assume this was meant for the mailing list. Marlene if you're
>
Tom is probably on the right track, but just in case, my notes on my HP laptop
show
210830: an update made rtw89 non functional.
Remedy: cd ~/current/MachineSetup/HP21setup/background/rtw89
# above contains code from https://github.com/lwfinger/rtw89
make clean
I'm away from Ottawa but have had this problem with a new HP 14" laptop. I had
to install
the rtw89 driver (actually to build it), and each time the kernel updates, I
have to repeat
this. It isn't difficult, but it is a bit daunting for novices. Maybe someone
else can join
in on this, as I"m on
We have 2 Pi4 boxes driving our TVs. And we were watching Kanopy and Hoopla
videos (OPL service)
until very recently. Now things don't work.
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63=318893=1908939=streaming#p1908939
explains what is going on in a post this afternoon only. Google
I've recently got an HP laptop and had what I now consider "usual" woes
in getting it set up with Linux. I wanted to dual boot to be able to test
some "real" Windows software, though I'm beginning to wonder about the sanity
of that.
In any event, I got Linux Mint 20.2 well established and the
Except that it isn't mailman (yet!). Scott and I set up the Linux-Ottawa
"server"
on ovh a couple of years ago and mlmmj was the choice to use for the mailing
list
due to size and simplicity of setup.
However, mlmmj hasn't been updated for a while and gave a few glitches.
Brett D. is working
FWIW, I MX/Antix also avoid systemd.
> MX Linux ships with systemd present but disabled by default. The MX Linux
> team strongly urges users to remain with this configuration which uses
> sysvinit instead. This page simply provides information for those interested
> in the question.
JN
On
As those reading this list will know, I've recently acquired a new HP laptop,
and have had some
adventures in linux setup.
I thought that I'd solved my networking issues, but have found the internal
wifi won't play nice with
avahi-discover and especially printer installation. A tiny TP-link USB
Previously I've been musing on what to get for a decent "travel laptop".
This Wed night, the decision was accelerated when the December 2014 Asus
Zenbook which
had a broken hinge and was held in a frame was upgraded to Linux Mint 20.1 (yes
I know
20.2 just came out a few hours later). As we
I looked at either this one or the Intel i7 version. There seems to be a family
of
machines using mostly same "bits" and changing processor and sizes of SSD.
FWIW Canada Computers Kanata has 1 and Merivale claims 3 in stock.
I liked speed, RAM and 1TB "disk".
When I went to look at the i5
They were going a week ago when I bought a cable adapter in Kanata.
BUT ... I have noticed that they seem to ignore the phone.
JN
On 2021-07-04 3:00 p.m., Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
> just spent the last while trying to call three of its local stores,
> and not an answer from any of them.
Worth reminding about Board June 28?
JN
On 2021-06-20 12:04 p.m., Scott Murphy wrote:
> DATE CHANGE!!!
>
> This is just a quick notification that the meeting will be pushed out from
> Canada Day to the 8th.
>
> More details on the meeting will follow as we get closer to the date.
> To
While I've found a workaround, I was a bit surprised that a test for existence
of
a directory in a bash script did not work.
I tried
DIR="~/Something/"
if [ -d "$DIR" ]; then
and got that the directory did NOT exist when it was clearly there.
Workaround was to use
DIR="/home/$(basename
ing.
JN
On 2021-06-14 9:59 a.m., Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> On 2021-06-14 09:39, J C Nash wrote:
>> With possible opening up of travel and having laptops that are vintage 2014
>> and 2015,
>> we're thinking of a new one for road trips.
>>
>> Our consider
With possible opening up of travel and having laptops that are vintage 2014 and
2015,
we're thinking of a new one for road trips.
Our considerations:
- 2 people sharing for email
- need for plenty of storage for photos and family history information, plus
some technical projects
- reasonably
Unfortunately, the price is a bit unfriendly. I've had a couple of Graphire
tablets
for about 20 years that are in the $100 range. Not the same, of course, but
given
the evolution of time and prices of other things, $680 seems a lot for an input
device. Let's hope there'll be some other players.
This is to follow up my own previous post based on experiments and
emails with Alex Pilon and Dimitry Korovkin.
1) I've found lots of suggestions on the net, but they do differ in details and
my trials -- rather cursory, so I don't claim them to be authoritative -- were
only partly successful.
This is a request to chat/email rather than specific query.
I've an old Asus EEE Netbook (Bunsenlabs Lithium) that
has about 20G of SSD and 2GB RAM which is quite good for the
2008-era tiny laptop. Thought I would try out setting it up to
serve files via WiFi. When travelling my wife and I could
e
welcome.
JN
On 2021-03-09 9:30 a.m., James Lockie wrote:
> Maybe you need to install Samba?
>
> On March 9, 2021 02:06:16 J C Nash wrote:
>
>> In setting up a Linux Mint 20.1 machine for my wife, we have a problem that
>> the wired
>> networking does not
In setting up a Linux Mint 20.1 machine for my wife, we have a problem that the
wired
networking does not find (name).local machines. I've played with avahi and some
other
things, but so far no joy EXCEPT things work when I attach a wifi USB
dongle. Sigh.
And we thought we'd resolved
Does the authentication "work" in that the printer then has the 2-sided option
set?
In my LM 20.1, changing the policy seems to be OK without authentication, so
James'
suggestion of group membership might be relevant.
JN
On 2021-03-05 10:20 a.m., CL Junk wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am having
at 11:02, J C Nash wrote:
>>
>> I've set up a new machine for my wife and it is mostly going very well.
>>
>> One problem is that the WIRED network connection did not find other
>> machines on the LAN, in particular raspberrypi.local and
>> (synolog
This offer came in to me (I think I'm one of the contacts on the wiki).
Like the OP, I hate to see working stuff go to the landfill, so am
spreading the word.
JN
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Subject:Computer donation
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 01:58:29 + (UTC)
From: K60
To:
linux-ottawa.org was set up some years ago as insurance against the
oclug.on.ca domain being sold off or used in ways that did not fit
the corporation objectives. oclug domain was "donated" by a former
member. We asked if we could take it over and were a bit surprised
to be told a definite no.
In last couple of months I've twice had to add (install)
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package
after installing a new distro. In particular Linux Mint 20 and 20.1 on a Dell
11" Inspiron 3000
and an Asus UX303. The symptom is that right-click doesn't work, which becomes
noticeable when
you want
:
> If someone recorded last night, maybe the video could be put in that repo.
>
> Is gitlab better than github?
>
> On January 8, 2021 13:23:45 J C Nash wrote:
>
>> As discussed last night, I have set up an essentially blank Gitlab repo for
>> New2Linux
>>
&g
As discussed last night, I have set up an essentially blank Gitlab repo for
New2Linux
https://gitlab.com/nashjc/new2linux
It is a PUBLIC project, but we can probably use a few "approvers" for merge
requests etc.
We can also use some content in the form of a file of "Topics".
There is the
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Do you have a USB that can boot with the live distro?
If so, you could get access to your content that way. And kudos for complete
backup!
The live distro will possibly help diagnose any problems with your system.
My guess is that the easiest solution (others may give different opinions, and
I
I may have found the answer to my own query in restarting the avahi-daemon.
I thought I had rebooted the pi, but perhaps failed to get that properly
executed.
JN
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Mary and I are using our Raspberry Pi as a place to share Gramps databases for
family history. We do this with
sshfs john@raspberrypi.local:/home/john/ /home/smnt/MyGramps
I did an update of the pi software recently (quite a few MB),
and now this doesn't work. I've checked that the failure is
in
t; --Rick
>
> On October 13, 2020 12:25:40 p.m. EDT, J C Nash wrote:
>
> I've a small script I wrote in Python / tkinter to caption jpeg files.
>
> I'd like to have Nautilus/Caja (both seem to give similar issues) launch
> this
> under "op
I've a small script I wrote in Python / tkinter to caption jpeg files.
I'd like to have Nautilus/Caja (both seem to give similar issues) launch this
under "open with". Looking at some web postings, there are different
recommendations,
such as creating a shell script first. And it seems I need to
We drive our TV with Raspbian. It is a fairly vanilla Debian distro
and works pretty painlessly. Only things it doesn't do are DRM specials
like Chrome browser to watch Kanopy or Hoopla. There may even be work-
arounds for that. However, there's plenty on Knowledge, TVO etc.
JN
On 2020-10-07
Carolyn,
I'm answering this and copying to the linux@linux-ottawa.org list, where
there may be more people who receive this. Though I've been on the Board
for ages, I wasn't aware of the club@... address, so don't know the scope
of distribution. I recommend joining the list which is not heavy
I guess I'm a nobody then. I've still a number of IDE drives, including
optical ones.
And then there's Integrated Development Environment. 'Dissing all those Eclipse
and Rstudio and ... people.
JN
On 2020-09-08 9:17 a.m., John Brooks wrote:
> On 2020-09-08 8:25 a.m., James Lockie wrote:
>> On
I had smudged images so did cleanup, followed instructions to clean corona wire
and and replaced the toner cartridge on my Brother HL2270DW printer.
Images just got cleaned up after about a dozen pages over a few days. Then it
stopped
after 1/2 page with a jam and drum and error light. Cleared
I have given a couple of talks about issues I experienced in my writing work
when
trying to create epub files.
Some of these issues concern:
- formatting woes
- failure of converters to capture spacing, pagination, or images
- some material simply "left out" without warning or notice.
IRC for the "meeting", Jitsi for Tug Williams talk.
See wiki.linux-ottawa.org
JN
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We'll be
aiming to only have presenter turn video on, rest of us on audio only, as this
seems
to give more pleasant conditions. And we have figured out web version of IRC
seems to
be fine.
JN
On 2020-04-30 1:41 p.m., Brett Delmage wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Apr 2020, J C Nash wr
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