Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Katherine Mcmillan
Sent: 25 January 2024 18:31 To: Linux-Ottawa Subject: Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration Attention : courriel externe | external email On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 06:20:55PM -0500, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > Btw Ian, do you still have that snazzy license plate? At the time I bought

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Ian! D. Allen
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 06:20:55PM -0500, Katherine Mcmillan wrote: > Btw Ian, do you still have that snazzy license plate? At the time I bought "DR LINUX" I didn't even own a car. I gave the plate as a gift to Michael Anderson. I finally bought half of my wife's car a few years ago, and the pla

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread James
Jan 25, 2024 5:00:49 PM Dianne Skoll : Hi, I would call this a MAJOR obstacle. I am missing something.  What was the original email that started this thread off? I thought it was just me who didn't get the email. :-) To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.o

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Katherine Mcmillan
, do you still have that snazzy license plate? -Katie From: Nash JC - NCF Sent: 25 January 2024 18:10 To: Katherine Mcmillan ; jfmess...@gmail.com ; Ian! D. Allen Cc: Linux-Ottawa Subject: Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration Attention : courriel

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Ian! D. Allen
: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2023 13:16:20 -0400 If a volunteer is going to run the mailing list for free, then the discussion about paying someone else to do it is moot. -- | Ian! D. Allen, BA-Psych, MMath-CompSci idal...@idallen.ca Ottawa CANADA | Home: www.ida

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Nash JC - NCF
4:50:33 PM *To:* Ian! D. Allen *Cc:* Linux-Ottawa *Subject:* Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration *Attention : courriel externe | external email* I would call this a MAJOR obstacle. If Freenet/NCF is hoping to get money from everyone joining this list on an annual basis, although

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Richard Guy Briggs
On 2024-01-25 14:17, Ron / BCLUG wrote: > Dianne Skoll wrote on 2024-01-25 14:00: > > >>I would call this a MAJOR obstacle. > > > >I am missing something. What was the original email that started this > >thread off? What is the "this" that is a major obstacle? That email > >seems not to have re

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Ron / BCLUG
Dianne Skoll wrote on 2024-01-25 14:00: I would call this a MAJOR obstacle. I am missing something. What was the original email that started this thread off? What is the "this" that is a major obstacle? That email seems not to have reached me. Same here - seems like the conversation was

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Dianne Skoll
Hi, > I would call this a MAJOR obstacle. I am missing something. What was the original email that started this thread off? What is the "this" that is a major obstacle? That email seems not to have reached me. :( Regards, Dianne. To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linu

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Katherine Mcmillan
I am in agreement with JF Sincerely, Katie From: Jean-Francois Messier Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 4:50:33 PM To: Ian! D. Allen Cc: Linux-Ottawa Subject: Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration Attention : courriel externe | external email I would

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Jean-Francois Messier
I would call this a MAJOR obstacle. If Freenet/NCF is hoping to get money from everyone joining this list on an annual basis, although OCLUG gave them thousands of dollars already, we should dissociate from Freenet/NCF. The decision to send the money to NCF was an honest mistake, but let's not keep

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2024-01-25 Thread Ian! D. Allen
Re: - Yes, I'd call it an obstacle - I agree [...] Is not going to work. - I agree. While the money is not a problem for me it is sort of offensive. The new person joining does not have to pay this fee. Imagine this: "Hello and welcome to OCLUG. We have teamed up with the local Free-Net to sp

Re: "email software" (was Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration)

2024-01-25 Thread Richard Guy Briggs
On 2024-01-25 13:16, Alan McKay wrote: > Zimbra is amazing and this is really bad news! > > My company switched to MS Outlook about 3 years ago and it is complete > garbage compared to Zimbra - in terms of being able to search email > and also the calendar is a lot weaker. I miss Zimbra almost da

Re: "email software" (was Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration)

2024-01-25 Thread Alan McKay
Is Kerio mail still around? It was very similar to Zimbra but haven't really looked at it in 12 years. Google shows something pop up but not sure if it is still free To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottaw

Re: "email software" (was Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration)

2024-01-25 Thread Alan McKay
Zimbra is amazing and this is really bad news! My company switched to MS Outlook about 3 years ago and it is complete garbage compared to Zimbra - in terms of being able to search email and also the calendar is a lot weaker. I miss Zimbra almost daily To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux

Re: "email software" (was Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration)

2024-01-25 Thread J C Nash
Thanks for pointers Diane. Indeed Zimbra has calendaring, and it is an important feature. I use it because when I was using a google calendar I seemed to get emails related to my calendar content. Since medical appointments get put on calendars, this isn't something I regard as a positive feature

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2023-08-05 Thread Ian E. Gorman
I think Alayne has a point about requiring NCF membership, but I think a bit of discussion with Shelley Robinson would lead to a solution. I worked as a volunteer at NCF until my vision problems caught up with me. During that time I found that Ms. Robinsion is quite good at dealing with problems

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2023-08-05 Thread Charles MacDonald
On 2023-08-05 13:16, J C Nash wrote: - hosting a mailing list before everyone gets worried about the idea of membership in NCF, perhaps they would be willing to allow starting a mail list that would allow Non NCF members, or Non NCF addresses to participate.? (My NCF ID is AA508 so I have

"email software" (was Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration)

2023-08-05 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 13:16:20 -0400 J C Nash wrote: > - engaging with Linux-Ottawa participants in discussions to help NCF >select email software as Zimbra is going to become proprietary. > NCF would prefer open source, but needs a solution well-suited to > very non-tech users. I assume by thi

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2023-08-05 Thread jf
I am also trying to get Sympa to work for Linux-Gatineau, but I am only at the point of proof-of-concept. Again, if I can help on the sysadmin of other technical nature, please let me know. JFM On 2023-08-05 14:29, Znoteer wrote: On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 01:16:20PM -0400, J C Nash wrote: [sni

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2023-08-05 Thread jf
I recently retired from Government of Canada and may have some time to help Linux-Ottawa in some capacities. One of them could be managing a Linux VPS where we could have the wiki and possibly a mailing list. As for the domain renewal, ownership and management, I can also help, as I currently h

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2023-08-05 Thread Znoteer
On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 01:16:20PM -0400, J C Nash wrote: [snip] > > Ms. Robinson has indicated that NCF has some interest in the following: > > - engaging with Linux-Ottawa participants in discussions to help NCF > select email software as Zimbra is going to become proprietary. NCF would >

Fwd: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2023-08-05 Thread J C Nash
And I am in agreement. However, to not make clear what we expect then get a surprise would not be good. JN On 2023-08-05 14:03, James wrote: Aug. 5, 2023 13:42:58 Katherine Mcmillan : Hello all, I agree with Alayne, this: "OCLUG gave NCF $4247.90 -- and now the NCF wants to charge _ever

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2023-08-05 Thread James
Aug. 5, 2023 13:42:58 Katherine Mcmillan : Hello all, I agree with Alayne, this: "OCLUG gave NCF $4247.90 -- and now the NCF wants to charge _every member_ of a low-volume mailing list $12/year? Yes, I'd call it an obstacle, both the cost for some & the PITA for anyone who doesn't need to

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2023-08-05 Thread Katherine Mcmillan
urrently working on this, please reach out to me! Sincerely, Katie From: ala...@twobikes.ottawa.on.ca Sent: 05 August 2023 13:36 To: Linux-Ottawa Subject: Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration Attention : courriel externe | external email OCLUG gave NCF $42

Re: [linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2023-08-05 Thread alayne
OCLUG gave NCF $4247.90 -- and now the NCF wants to charge _every member_ of a low-volume mailing list $12/year? Yes, I'd call it an obstacle, both the cost for some & the PITA for anyone who doesn't need to be an NCF member. Imagine trying to get anyone new involved in OCLUG -- "BTW, it will

[linux] Linux-Ottawa / NCF collaboration

2023-08-05 Thread J C Nash
Following up discussions at the Virtual meeting on Thursday Aug 3 and telephone conversation I had with Shelley Robinson (Exec. Director of NCF), here are some points for consideration of how Linux-Ottawa may move forward. Background: With declining participation and willingness to serve on the