Re: Another mailing list option (was Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself)

2024-01-25 Thread James
On 2024-01-25 16:38, Dianne Skoll wrote: Hi again, So here's another option... the OCLUG machine runs Postfix, I believe. So rather than changing the mailing list software, we could install Mailmunge (https://mailmunge.org) and have it fix up the headers after the fact. By this, I mean: 1)

Another mailing list option (was Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself)

2024-01-25 Thread Dianne Skoll
Hi again, So here's another option... the OCLUG machine runs Postfix, I believe. So rather than changing the mailing list software, we could install Mailmunge (https://mailmunge.org) and have it fix up the headers after the fact. By this, I mean: 1) Rewrite the From: header for all outbound list

Re: Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself

2024-01-25 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 13:19:21 -0800 Ron / BCLUG wrote: > Since mailman2 requires python2, which has been deprecated since > 2020, might be worth going to mailman3. Oh, huh. I looked at mailman3, but it's very different from mailman2 and integrates very differently with the MTA (it require an LMT

Re: Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself

2024-01-25 Thread Ron / BCLUG
Dianne Skoll wrote on 2024-01-25 12:59: I'd be willing to have a look on the server and see how easy it would be to change to the latest 2.x release of GNU Mailman. Since mailman2 requires python2, which has been deprecated since 2020, might be worth going to mailman3. I've got some mailing

Re: Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself

2024-01-25 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 15:22:03 -0500 Nash JC - NCF wrote: > Does anyone have sufficient motivation to replace the maillist s/w? I'd be willing to have a look on the server and see how easy it would be to change to the latest 2.x release of GNU Mailman. If it's something I could do in less than a

Re: Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself

2024-01-25 Thread Nash JC - NCF
Perhaps I should have said that unless someone volunteers, what we have is what will be available, rather than commenting on the properties of mlmmj. Linux-Ottawa is purely volunteer supported. As will all such groups, that's its strength and also weakness. Does anyone have sufficient motivation

Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself

2024-01-25 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:52:43 -0500 Alex Pilon wrote: > DKIM is not the job of the mailing list, but of OpenDKIM via Postfix. > The outbound path should look like this: > mlmmj -> /usr/bin/sendmail -> Postfix -> OpenDKIM -> Postfix -> > Internet It's not that simple. You also have to change

Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself

2024-01-25 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:30:07 -0500 Nash JC - NCF wrote: > Like many things, what we have more or less works, I don't agree with that assessment... > so there's not a lot of incentive to fix the edge cases. Both of the large email providers (Google and Microsoft) are starting to crack down and

Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself

2024-01-25 Thread Alex Pilon
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 02:30:07PM -0500, Nash JC - NCF wrote: > I just downloaded mlmmj source code and docs and a text search did not > get a hit on DKIM, so probably does not support it. DKIM is not the job of the mailing list, but of OpenDKIM via Postfix. The outbound path should look like thi

Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself

2024-01-25 Thread Nash JC - NCF
We've been using mlmmj. Scott has kept it running, but I'm pretty sure he's happy if someone would set up something better. However, we've had people say they were going to do that, then not carry through. Like many things, what we have more or less works, so there's not a lot of incentive to fix

Re: [linux] Strange Email Issues with this list - gmail spamming myself

2024-01-25 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 13:32:23 -0500 Alan McKay wrote: > Here is a curious issue that I see on this list only - gmail flags my > own emails as potential spam. This is a longstanding problem with the OCLUG list software. If you use DKIM, then this list breaks DKIM. And gmail.com uses DKIM. I've