Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recomendations

2011-05-10 Thread Eric Brackenbury
Thanks Rob I need it my motorcycle buddy just left us on his next journey, luckily I was with him. So now you all may understand more that which i was trying to convey. Hugs all round Eric On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Rob Echlin wrote: > Hi Eric! > > As requested - here is a cyber hug! >

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recomendations

2011-05-10 Thread Rob Echlin
Hi Eric! As requested - here is a cyber hug! ((O)) Rob -- Rob Echlin, B. Eng. 613-266-8311 - Ottawa, ON Blog: http://talksoftware.wordpress.com/ - I am a software developer and proponent of Agile Software Development processes. - Agile delivers: faster to market, higher quality, what the cus

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recomendations

2011-05-10 Thread Eric Brackenbury
Couple of points here folks :-)) I understand the original consternation on this but I would say that if FLOSS is to be spread a bit to the less capable such as myself ! Some stable basic distro is a must "Please" Now I get the code approach and respect it VERY much but some of us are coming to L

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] any interest in a local kernel programming special interest group?

2011-05-10 Thread Richard Guy Briggs
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 06:03:45AM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > is there any interest in a small group focused on linux kernel > programming that would want to meet on a regular or occasional basis > in downtown ottawa and hash out selected areas of interest in kernel > programming? I'll put

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] any interest in a local kernel programmingspecialinterest group?

2011-05-10 Thread allan . fields
I think this is a good idea. I will suggest that you encourage the advanced kernel programmers to present on specific subsystems. You may find there is a hotbed of embedded programmers here in Ottawa with knowledge of applying Linux kernel to network and mobile applications where it really mak

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] [Fwd: Re: Distro Recommendations]

2011-05-10 Thread Shawn H Corey
On 11-05-10 11:40 AM, Bill Strosberg wrote: > Build and install the versions you want, on top of the > environment you like. I did that once. Blew the distro out of the water; don't want a repeat. > YOU are the boss, not Canonical! Ain't their fault. > Canonical has been releasing distros since

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] [Fwd: Re: Distro Recommendations]

2011-05-10 Thread Raj
On 11-05-10 11:40 AM, Bill Strosberg wrote: > Shawn H Corey wrote: >> I've upgraded by Ubuntu to 11.04. What a piece of junk. If this is the >> best Canonical can do, it's time to switch distro. >> >> I'm looking for one that can do some development work. My favourite >> language is Perl, so

[OCLUG-Tech] [Fwd: Re: Distro Recommendations]

2011-05-10 Thread Bill Strosberg
Shawn H Corey wrote: > I've upgraded by Ubuntu to 11.04. What a piece of junk. If this is the > best Canonical can do, it's time to switch distro. > > I'm looking for one that can do some development work. My favourite > language is Perl, so it's got to be able to do that. Now, you're > thin

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recommendations

2011-05-10 Thread Shawn H Corey
On 11-05-10 11:06 AM, porpen wrote: > But I agree, building and installing from source is probably your best bet. > Heck install it to /usr/local or /opt or wherever and add symlinks to your > ~/bin. This will keep the distro happy with it's stable version of perl. > The best way to install a

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recommendations

2011-05-10 Thread porpen
Hi, On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:48:41AM -0400, Shawn H Corey wrote: > On 11-05-10 10:43 AM, Tim Inkpen wrote: > > Unless I'm missing something, Mint does not come with the version of Perl > > that you are looking for, at least according to this matrix: > > http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribu

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recommendations

2011-05-10 Thread Derek Murphy (Simba 64 bit)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 10 May 2011, Shawn H Corey wrote: > Most distros come with Perl 5.10 (some still have 5.8) but I need to run > 5.12 (stable) and 5.14 (beta). > > Any recommendations? I simply MUST point out that the latest stable Slackware release (Slackwa

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recommendations

2011-05-10 Thread Tim Inkpen
And as I mentioned - the latest version of OpenSUSE seems to come with the latest version of perl (5.12.3). Tim InkpenSystem Designer Phone: (613) 234-1086 Email: tinkpen@sympatico.caNetwork+ certified support specialist Over 12 years of experience at IBM, The Pythian Group Broad backgroun

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] any interest in a local kernel programming special interest group?

2011-05-10 Thread Derek Murphy (Simba 64 bit)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 10 May 2011, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > is there any interest in a small group focused on linux kernel > programming that would want to meet on a regular or occasional basis > in downtown ottawa and hash out selected areas of interest in kern

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recommendations

2011-05-10 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Tue, 10 May 2011, Shawn H Corey wrote: > On 11-05-10 10:43 AM, Tim Inkpen wrote: > > Unless I'm missing something, Mint does not come with the version of Perl > > that you are looking for, at least according to this matrix: > > http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mint > > > > No dist

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recommendations

2011-05-10 Thread porpen
Hi, On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 09:18:50AM -0400, Shawn H Corey wrote: > I've upgraded by Ubuntu to 11.04. What a piece of junk. If this is the > best Canonical can do, it's time to switch distro. > > I'm looking for one that can do some development work. My favourite > language is Perl, so it's

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recommendations

2011-05-10 Thread Shawn H Corey
On 11-05-10 10:43 AM, Tim Inkpen wrote: > Unless I'm missing something, Mint does not come with the version of Perl > that you are looking for, at least according to this matrix: > http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mint > No distro I know of comes with Perl 5.12. I'll have to load it

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recommendations

2011-05-10 Thread Tim Inkpen
Shawn, Unless I'm missing something, Mint does not come with the version of Perl that you are looking for, at least according to this matrix: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mint Tim InkpenSystem Designer Phone: (613) 234-1086 Email: tinkpen@sympatico.caNetwork+ certified supp

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recommendations

2011-05-10 Thread Bryan Larsen
To throw a counter opinion in there, I love 11.04.I've had no problems with it, a couple of previous niggles vis-a-vis suspend have been worked out, and I love Unity, at least on a laptop. I'm not sure it will work as well on the 30" on my desktop, but it's worth switching to Ubuntu just to g

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recommendations

2011-05-10 Thread Shawn H Corey
On 11-05-10 10:05 AM, Eric Brackenbury wrote: > Why do you need to go from a stable (10.04) am I missing something here. Because I didn't know how unstable 11.04 was until I upgraded. Now I can reload 10.04 or I can look at a new distro. -- Just my 0.0002 million dollars worth, Shawn

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recommendations

2011-05-10 Thread Eric Brackenbury
Message: 6 Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 09:30:22 -0400 From: Shawn H Corey Subject: Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recommendations To: linux@lists.oclug.on.ca Message-ID: <4dc93dee.2040...@ncf.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 11-05-10 09:27 AM, J-F Bilodeau wrote: > I'm curio

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recommendations

2011-05-10 Thread Shawn H Corey
On 11-05-10 09:48 AM, Tim Inkpen wrote: > I've done some quick checking. If you want to stick with a major > distribution, then you have two choices: > > Fedora 14 (details here: > http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=fedora) > > or > > OpenSuse 11.4 (details here: > http://distrowatch.

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recommendations

2011-05-10 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Tue, 10 May 2011, Shawn H Corey wrote: > I've upgraded by Ubuntu to 11.04. What a piece of junk. If this is > the best Canonical can do, it's time to switch distro. > > I'm looking for one that can do some development work. My favourite > language is Perl, so it's got to be able to do that.

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recommendations

2011-05-10 Thread Tim Inkpen
Hi Shawn, I've done some quick checking. If you want to stick with a major distribution, then you have two choices: Fedora 14 (details here: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=fedora) or OpenSuse 11.4 (details here: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=suse) I hope tha

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] any interest in a local kernel programming special interest group?

2011-05-10 Thread Jean Richard
>and just to be clear, i'm not trying to compete with OCLUG. this > group would be far more informal and have a much stricter focus. so > ... who's in? if enough people are interested, i'll check out what it > would take to meet at the code factory. I'm one of those people out in Kanata, bu

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recommendations

2011-05-10 Thread Shawn H Corey
On 11-05-10 09:27 AM, J-F Bilodeau wrote: > I'm curious why I consider Ubuntu 11.04 a 'piece of junk'. Is it the new > Gnome UI? I'm not trying to defend the distro, but I use Kubuntu, and > haven't tried the new UI yet. GIMP is broke. WxWindows is broke. But the biggest problem is that when

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recommendations

2011-05-10 Thread J-F Bilodeau
I'm curious why I consider Ubuntu 11.04 a 'piece of junk'. Is it the new Gnome UI? I'm not trying to defend the distro, but I use Kubuntu, and haven't tried the new UI yet. Le 2011-05-10 à 09:18, Shawn H Corey a écrit : > I've upgraded by Ubuntu to 11.04. What a piece of junk. If this is the

[OCLUG-Tech] Distro Recommendations

2011-05-10 Thread Shawn H Corey
I've upgraded by Ubuntu to 11.04. What a piece of junk. If this is the best Canonical can do, it's time to switch distro. I'm looking for one that can do some development work. My favourite language is Perl, so it's got to be able to do that. Now, you're thinking all the distros come with P

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] any interest in a local kernel programming special interest group?

2011-05-10 Thread Robert P. J. Day
as a short followup to my earlier note, i initially suggested get-togethers over a lunch hour. another possibility is *immediately* after work. the point is to do this for downtown people so it doesn't require any additional travel. years ago, when i lived in calgary, a number of us in the

[OCLUG-Tech] any interest in a local kernel programming special interest group?

2011-05-10 Thread Robert P. J. Day
is there any interest in a small group focused on linux kernel programming that would want to meet on a regular or occasional basis in downtown ottawa and hash out selected areas of interest in kernel programming? while i make part of my living teaching kernel programming and basic device dri