Re: For Alan Cox, about his patches

2002-04-17 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine writing for himself **Jabs himself with a painstick, and then pokes Rick Troth with it** I knew that! Drat! When you are ready for a beta tester, please let me know. Anyway, I am indeed going to try a 2.4.1.x kernel here. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: For Alan Cox, about his patches

2002-04-17 Thread Post, Mark K
Rick, Not S/390 Slackware. That's not been released yet. Sigh. I am actually working on some of the installation scripts, but it's a little slow going due to other priorities. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Rick Troth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:3

Re: CTC's Turbolinux 6.5

2002-04-17 Thread Julia Karastoianova
Hi Mark, do not reinstall, but in command line do: 1. rmmod ctc 2. insmod ctc setup='"ctc=0x600,ctc0"' 3. /etc/rc.dinit.d/network start If it does not work, start over with other modules param If that works do ifconfig /etc/rc.d/init.d/inetd start Try to ping your VM linux from remout machine I

Re: For Alan Cox, about his patches

2002-04-17 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine writing for myself Its Intel. I have not built a S/390 system yet. That's next. Yes it is, and yes I will. RSN. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan

Re: CTC's Turbolinux 6.5

2002-04-17 Thread Dorney, Mark
Thanks to everyone, I'm at home now, will get on this first thing in the morning and report back. Thanks again, Mark -Original Message- From: Post, Mark K To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 4/17/02 4:13 PM Subject: Re: CTC's Turbolinux 6.5 Mark, >From the VM console, issue this command: #cp q

Re: For Alan Cox, about his patches

2002-04-17 Thread Rick Troth
Gregg ... I find that you can generally upgrade your kernel without too much harm. Suggest that you get the 2.4.18 and use it on your otherwise 2.4.lower based system. This is INTeL? Or is this S/390 Slackware?

Re: For Alan Cox, about his patches

2002-04-17 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine Given the versions being worked with for the S/390 crowd, I agree. However, that version is the latest one being distributed with the Slackware collection, they also include kernel version 2.2.19. I suppose I can snag a newer version after 2.4.5, such as 2.4.18, or anythi

Re: For Alan Cox, about his patches

2002-04-17 Thread Alan Cox
> patch-2.4.5-ac9, for my Slackware box, which will have a 2.4.5 kernel, > by tonight. Can you advise me off list, as to what purpose the patch was > created? And should I go back, and grab the others, for version 2.4.5? 2.4.5 is mindbogglingly obsolete. For the -ac patches you should check the

Re: acl's

2002-04-17 Thread Stefan Gybas
Matthias Wittpoth wrote: > - To fix a problem within the ea/acl patched originaly designed for 2.4.18 > kernel, there was a need to fix two lines of code within fs/ext2/xattr.c > (arround line 1340) and fs/ext3/xattr.c (arround line 1365). > #if LINUX_VERSION_CODE < KERNEL_VERSION(2,4,0) > modi

For Alan Cox, about his patches

2002-04-17 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine normally with Jedi Knight Computers This probably is not the right forum to ask this question, but since the Linux Kernel list is ignoring me, I might as well. Alan, according to the readme inside the directory, on the ftp://ftp..uk.kernel.org mirror site, it mentions tha

Re: CTC's Turbolinux 6.5

2002-04-17 Thread Post, Mark K
Dave, I don't think so, because of this message coming out: escon0: read dev: 0600 irq: 000c - write dev: 0601 irq: 000d I really think he has them defined as escon devices, but either not coupled, or not cross-coupled to the other end properly. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Dave

Re: CTC's Turbolinux 6.5

2002-04-17 Thread Post, Mark K
Mark, >From the VM console, issue this command: #cp q v ctc You should see something like this: #cp q v ctc 00: CTCA 0600 3088 COUPLED TO TCPIP0F01 SUBCHANNEL = 000B 00: CTCA 0601 3088 COUPLED TO TCPIP0F00 SUBCHANNEL = 000C If you don't, that is your problem. If you do, then after

Re: sending a message to an OS/390 LPAR?

2002-04-17 Thread paultz
How about using 'rsh' to send a 'logger' command? Paul

Re: CTC's Turbolinux 6.5

2002-04-17 Thread Dorney, Mark
It's through VM TCP/IP, I tried using ESCON earlier in the day but didn't have any better luck there. I saw that when he finds the ESCON he tries to use escon0 and it looks like he gets an error there. Possibly the channels are configured wrong? The guy who did that part is gone for the day, mo

Re: CTC's Turbolinux 6.5

2002-04-17 Thread Davis, Jeff
The first thing I wonder is whether you are using CTC0 or ESCON0. What kind of channel to channel are you using? If it is parallel channel you should use CTC0. If it is escon channel to channel, you should use ESCON0. They are two different things. Jeff Davis -Original Message- From:

Re: CTC's Turbolinux 6.5

2002-04-17 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Mark. I think that your problem is that you've only defined 1 CTCyou need two to get Linux to connect to the VM TCPIP stack. Try this: 1) from the CMS Ready prompt in the Linux virtual machine: a) DEFINE CTC 600 b) DEFINE CTC 601 c) COUPLE 600 TCPIP xxx d) COUPLE 601 TCP

Re: apr for mod_webapp make problem - solved!

2002-04-17 Thread Vincent Gazzillo
finally got compile of mod_webapp.so to work by avoiding using the apr source that i downloaded separately, which created compile error when pointed to. instead i used the apr source that was self-contained in the webapp-module-1.0.2-tc402-src.tar.gz and followed the instructions given in: http:

Re: CTC's Turbolinux 6.5

2002-04-17 Thread Steve Shomaker
Mark, Are you using vctc with VM TCP/IP or do you have a network connection directly attached to your Linux image? If you are using vctc, you should have 2 Parallel channels found not 2 Escon channels found. If you are using directly attached, it looks like you chose CTC instead of Escon. At

Re: CTC's Turbolinux 6.5

2002-04-17 Thread Dorney, Mark
Sorry, might be worthy to note that we running under VM as a guest > -Original Message- > From: Dorney, Mark > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 3:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CTC's Turbolinux 6.5 > > First off, serious newbie alert, mainframer thrown into this w

CTC's Turbolinux 6.5

2002-04-17 Thread Dorney, Mark
First off, serious newbie alert, mainframer thrown into this world for a POC. I'm doing an install from tape, I get to the part where I specify my CTC information and I start getting errors (logs are at the end). I believe that the hardware is ok since I went through the archives and although I

Re: How to pre-allocate a 4GB File?

2002-04-17 Thread Alan Cox
> Do I have to upgrade to 2.4 kernel to run LVM? > How can I build software RAID-O? Well you could always cheat. Unix/Linux are bright enough not to store empty never written blocks, so you can open64/ftruncate a file up to 4Gb long and it uses very little disk space, then just play with the poin

Re: sending a message to an OS/390 LPAR?

2002-04-17 Thread Rick Troth
> I hope this is not too vague, but is there an established way to send a > message from Linux S/390 that will show up in an OS/390 LPAR's logs? The question makes me think of ye olde NJE networking with its ability to write to a remote console. Write to logs? I don't know, not knowing MVS wel

Re: OK who messed with the redbook?

2002-04-17 Thread Rich Smrcina
Oh yeah and let me guess, walking back and forth to work in that snow with just sandals on, up hill both ways! On Wednesday 17 April 2002 10:39 am, you wrote: > You young whipper-snappers don't know how good you got it! Why I remember > back when I was just a young systems programmer all we had

Re: DHCP Server

2002-04-17 Thread Darren Zamrykut
- Original Message - From: "David Boyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 5:46 PM Subject: Re: DHCP Server > > Is there any configuration differences when it comes to setting up a DHCP > > Server on s390 running SLES 7 compared to an Intel PC? > >

Re: How to pre-allocate a 4GB File?

2002-04-17 Thread Rich Smrcina
I am going to guess that Oracle has theoretical and practical database size limitations. I would not expect that those limitations would change. All tempered by the size limitations of your chosen filesystem. As mentioned here before, LVM can be used to cobble together many 3390-3 (2.3GB) or -9

Re: quick linux time (and NTP) question

2002-04-17 Thread Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission
Stay tuned on this one, I've been exercising my Assembler skills. I need to wrap up a few implementation details. > Most interesting post ever made on this list on VM, LINUX and Time was > in the earlier thread (an item by Romney White in reply to Ross > Patterson) http://www.mar

Re: compile error with 31-bit RedHat 7.2

2002-04-17 Thread Tung-Sing Chong
Florian, Thank for your explanations. We both agreed that for fast devel cycles we should use "make drivers/s390/net/testvm.o" from "/usr/src/linux-2.4". I do agree with you on the recompilation of the module for any new future kernels. At this point I will be happy If I can compile my file on

Re: sending a message to an OS/390 LPAR?

2002-04-17 Thread Rob van der Heij
>was hoping to send a message from linux to the other end of it's CTC >channel that our ops could see (and react to). I think you could ftp a job into MVS' internal reader and have that do a WTO maybe? Or is there an option for rexec() to USS ? Rob

Re: quick linux time (and NTP) question

2002-04-17 Thread Dougie Lawson
This list still needs an FAQ. NTP was discussed back at the end of February. Thread starts at http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvtype?LINUX-VM.24043 and ends at http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvtype?LINUX-VM.24156 Take a look at the item I posted at: http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvtype?LINUX-VM

sending a message to an OS/390 LPAR?

2002-04-17 Thread daniel . jarboe
Running 2.4.9 in an LPAR. I hope this is not too vague, but is there an established way to send a message from Linux S/390 that will show up in an OS/390 LPAR's logs? I was hoping to send a message from linux to the other end of it's CTC channel that our ops could see (and react to). I thought

Re: How to pre-allocate a 4GB File?

2002-04-17 Thread Michael MacIsaac
> How can I build software RAID-O? # cd /dev # mknod md0 b 9 0 ... # cat /etc/raidtab raiddev /dev/md0 raid-level 0 nr-raid-disks 4 persistent-superblock 1 chunk-size 128 device /dev/dasdf1 ra

Re: The Fish flame: the final word

2002-04-17 Thread Phil Payne
> Now would you mind letting the useful part of society get back to useful > things ? I would love to - it isn't me that keeps coming back here. I had already posted a complete explanation on Hercules' own advocacy group and emailed Jay privately. As I said at the top of my post, I regret this

Re: acl's

2002-04-17 Thread Post, Mark K
Matthias, This is really good stuff. Thank you very much. Would you be willing to contact Michael Weissbach and ask him if he can get the paper released? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Matthias Wittpoth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 12:37 PM To: [EMAIL

Re: Linux disk buffer cache

2002-04-17 Thread John Campbell
I'm of the opinion that we need to deal with it the other way, so double-paging _can't_ happen. If the Linux instance's kernel can be told that no more than, say, 5% of the memory can be used for buffer cache (I've been perusing the kernel source and I _think_ there's a wa

Re: Linux cache

2002-04-17 Thread Post, Mark K
The only way I know of without tweaking kernel source is to put "pressure" on Linux's storage. I.e., use V-disk for your Linux swap, keep your virtual machine size small, and the amount of storage allocated for buffers and caching will be reduced. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Mark

Bald old farts (was Re: OK who messed with the redbook?

2002-04-17 Thread Dougie Lawson
> You telling us that MVS causes premature hair loss? http://linuxvm.org/community/dlawson.html would seem to be a proof of that. (Perhaps it is the fascination with IMS that does it.) > or that it leads to early-onset flatulence? Can't comment about that in a public mailing list. Regards, Dougi

Re: How to pre-allocate a 4GB File?

2002-04-17 Thread Eddie Chen
Does anyone knows the max size of ORACLE database and table on the 32bits Linux machine... INTEL or Z/VM running on G5 machine.

Linux cache

2002-04-17 Thread Mark D Pace
I should have asked this at WAVV. One suggestion for improved sharing of resources was to use VM MDC to cache instead of Linux. I have been unable to find how to limit caching in Linux. Any know how to accomplish this? Thanks very much. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information

Re: How to pre-allocate a 4GB File?

2002-04-17 Thread Post, Mark K
Samy, SuSE 7.0 has LVM support built into it. Red Hat 7.2 does not. For RAID support, take a look at http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvtype?LINUX-VM.22398 and http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html Mark Post -Original Message- From: Rengasamy, Samy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: How to pre-allocate a 4GB File?

2002-04-17 Thread Rengasamy, Samy
Do I have to upgrade to 2.4 kernel to run LVM? How can I build software RAID-O? Thanks, Samy Rengasamy. -Original Message- From: Post, Mark K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 10:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to pre-allocate a 4GB File? Samy, Yo

Re: Hi there...

2002-04-17 Thread Jay Maynard
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 07:00:50AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 11:27:33AM -0400, Alan Altmark wrote: > > > FYIHere at the WAVV conference, one or more requirements are planned > > > to be submitted to IBM to address the issue of hobbyist licensing of S/390 > > >

SAF: Setting up an automatic startup

2002-04-17 Thread Lionel Dyck
Given the restrictions of the SAF z/VM environment the only way that I've found (thanks to suggestions from IBM z/VM CMS Level 2) to automate the start up of the Linux images under z/VM is to update the PROFILE EXEC of the VMADMIN server. Here is a copy of what I did: First issue: vmlink vmadmin

Re: Hi there...

2002-04-17 Thread John Summerfield
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 11:27:33AM -0400, Alan Altmark wrote: > > FYIHere at the WAVV conference, one or more requirements are planned > > to be submitted to IBM to address the issue of hobbyist licensing of S/390 > > and zSeries software. > > That's great! I'll be happy to discuss my though

Re: How to pre-allocate a 4GB File?

2002-04-17 Thread Rick Troth
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, John Summerfield wrote: > Or can I do better on a PC than you can on a mainframe? John, the reason why large filesystems are challenging on S/390 is because the disk hardware is still tuned mostly for MVS, which does not use a fixed-block storage strategy. As a result, D

Re: OK who messed with the redbook?

2002-04-17 Thread John Campbell
Clay Tablets? You had CLAY Tablets? Whoa! We had to chisel our reports into granite- after we quarried the rocks. The computers were fluidic and couldn't be run when cold, so a cold start was difficult! And sharpening the chisels on a daily basis was 2/3rds of our workload in operations. The

Re: OK who messed with the redbook?

2002-04-17 Thread Phil Payne
> And don't get me started about the clay-tablet printer! ;) We used to print Braille on 1403s. Weird. You put strange backing paper in the gate, and you mounted a special ribbon. Then you threw the paper away and sent the customer the ribbon. -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.com

Re: acl's

2002-04-17 Thread Matthias Wittpoth
Mark, someday in the near future we will run out of space in our nt data center so we started the project of nt server consolidation. One solution could be a samba server for file services on the existing z900 with SLES7. We decided to implement a prototype to demonstrate the functionality of sam

Re: How to pre-allocate a 4GB File?

2002-04-17 Thread John Summerfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > The Linux LVM allows you to build a larger filesystem using several > dasds - but if you use the ext2-filesystem the maximum filesize will - > afaik - only be 2GB. Twaddle. [summer@numbat summer]$ ll /tmp/hdb5 -h -rw-r-1 root 8.0G Feb 1 18:27 /tmp/hdb5

Re: Hi there...

2002-04-17 Thread Alan Cox
> Let me just emphasis one distinction that appears not to have been > appreciated. Patents are not issued for algorithms but only the > implementation of them, in an invention or process. The effect of this is Only theoretically in the USA. But in the USA it doesnt matter any way at a million do

Linux-390 and DB2

2002-04-17 Thread Erik Kragh Jensen
Has anybody experience with running DB2 on Linux-390? I'm especially interested in how well it performs and how stable it is. Perhaps someone can comment on the advantages/disadvantages of running DB2 on Linux-390 as opposed to DB2 on Intel Linux (or OS/390 for that matter). Thanks, Erik Kragh Je

Re: Hi there...

2002-04-17 Thread Phil Payne
> I believe that the discussion pops up every now and then in an attempt to > frighten people away from using or working on Hercules. Fortunately, it's > pretty transparent FUD. There are 2271 subscribers to the hercules-390 > mailing list, and I'm sure there are at least as many users of the syst

Re: compile error with 31-bit RedHat 7.2

2002-04-17 Thread Florian La Roche
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 01:43:48PM -0400, Tung-Sing Chong wrote: > Florian, > > Thanks for your respond. "add this as a patch to the kernel src.rpm and > then rebuild the "--> Do you mean rebuilding the kernel with 2.4.9-31 > source tree and compile my file again? Anyway I did the following

AW: acl's

2002-04-17 Thread Matthias Wittpoth
In a proof of concept with the ibm lab in boeblingen we implemented the acl's with sles7. We have done that because for implementing a samba server with nearly same functionallity like nt the acl's are mandatory. We compiled a new kernel based on 2.4.17 with the necessary ibm patches and the acl

Re: How to pre-allocate a 4GB File?

2002-04-17 Thread Sergey Korzhevsky
17.04.2002 01:16:12 "Rengasamy, Samy" wrote: >How to pre-allocate a 4GB File in a system with several 2.3 GB dasds? > >We're looking for a way to be able to create a single file slightly >larger than 4Gbytes (to test some logic in the code which has been >known to break on ports where seek offse