Re: Accessing OS/390data from Linux LPAR.

2004-02-05 Thread Ranga Nathan
Thanks. A while ago, I downloaded hostbridge.com files that contained socket code in assembler and COBOL. Both do a HTTP GET to any web page and return the contents. For me to do this in CICS, some CSKL (?) transaction needs to be running and ports need to be configured. It is never simple on the m

Some basic Debian-s390 questions

2004-02-05 Thread Alex deVries
I have a few questions accumulated, although I'm sure there will be more. I suspect they're in the category of either: A - this is a really stupid question, or B - we've already answered this 1,000 times My questions so far are: 1. Problem installing When I went through the Debian installer, I go

Re: Accessing OS/390data from Linux LPAR.

2004-02-05 Thread Alex deVries
Leland, I'd love a copy! - Alex Lucius, Leland wrote: I have a standard (non-CICS) sockets example in have Cobol and Rexx. Hollar if ya want 'em. Leland -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ranga Nathan Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 9:15 P

Re: Accessing OS/390data from Linux LPAR.

2004-02-05 Thread Lucius, Leland
I have a standard (non-CICS) sockets example in have Cobol and Rexx. Hollar if ya want 'em. Leland > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Ranga Nathan > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 9:15 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Accessin

Re: Accessing OS/390data from Linux LPAR.

2004-02-05 Thread Ranga Nathan
I have downloaded this but looks like it requires "Enterprise Extender" on the OS/390 side. I was looking at the CICS sockets interface. On the Linux side I can rig up something in Perl easily. But the CICS side seems to be a big effort. If anyone has done sockets on CICS, can I have some pointers

Re: compile failures for the 2.4.21 and 2.4.23 kernels

2004-02-05 Thread Stephen Frazier
As a subscriber to both lists I would say the answer is YES. :) The answers you get on the debian-s390 list appear to assume more knowledge about debian than the answers on this list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debian does indeed have a lot of goodness. If I were interested in asking some relative

Re: Ipl problem after instal on vm mdisk

2004-02-05 Thread Post, Mark K
Well, you've already spent more time trying to figure this out than you would if you just do a re-install. So, why not try to "do it right" all the way through so you _know_ for sure what you've got on your hands? (I sure wouldn't want to inherit a system that had been glued back together from da

Re: Ipl problem after instal on vm mdisk

2004-02-05 Thread Sue Sivets
Mark, I did not run fdasd to partition the 151 disk. I didn't think I needed to if I was only going to have a single partition. Both the 150 & the 151 mdisks are on the same volume. 150 is supposed to be 150 cyls, and 151 is supposed to be 2560 cyls. The zeros at address 0 bother me too. I was exp

Re: Ipl problem after instal on vm mdisk

2004-02-05 Thread Sue Sivets
Thank you Rob, this looks like something I need. I hope you don't mind, but I'd like to email you privately for more info and a little help, since it looks like I'm going to also have to install cms pipelines along with vmarc and I don't know what else. Sue Rob van der Heij wrote: > As far as fo

Re: Use of 3490 tape

2004-02-05 Thread Post, Mark K
Hmm, that's because it's stored in base64 encoding. If you can't decode it, go to http://linuxvm.org/archives/200203.html, and do a find on "tape." You'll see a summary of what was posted in Sergey's email. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] B

Re: Ipl problem after instal on vm mdisk

2004-02-05 Thread Post, Mark K
Sue, /dev/dasdb1 looks more to be the size of a swap partition than a data partition. 127776 1K blocks comes out to about 125MB. The 150 disk is about 140MB in size, also small enough to be a swap disk. Yes, -cdl is the default for dasdfmt these days. When you ran fdasd (you _did_ run fdasd, ri

Re: Use of 3490 tape

2004-02-05 Thread David Boyes
Coming to a zExpo soon -- I plan to give a talk on it. The next outing is in Europe, but hopefully we'll be in Orlando to talk about it as well. There is a fair amount of info on amanda.org, all of which applies to Amanda on zLinux. The sticky bit is the interaction between Linux and drive allocat

Re: Use of 3490 tape

2004-02-05 Thread David Boyes
> If Amanda gets ported to the Windows platform, then a shop > that doesn't want > or need all of the fancy/expensive features of Tivoli Storage > Manager could > have a much cheaper alternative. Already has been done. Contact me off line for details and support information...8-) -- db

Re: Use of 3490 tape

2004-02-05 Thread Kern, Thomas
I have been reading through this for a few minutes now. http://www.backupcentral.com/amanda.html /Thomas Kern /301-903-2211 > -Original Message- > From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 16:12 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Use of 3490 tape

Re: Use of 3490 tape

2004-02-05 Thread Kern, Thomas
DOE is a windows desktop shop. If it doesn't look and feel and crash like a windows program it will not get into our Common Operating Environment (single desktop image pushed to users). But now I know I can get rid of my Tivoli client when I get a Linux/390 Amanda server running. /Thomas Kern /30

Re: Use of 3490 tape

2004-02-05 Thread James Melin
Is there a body of practical experience or primer about amanda and how it can be used with z/linux? |-+> | | "Kern, Thomas" | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | oe.gov> | | | Sent by:

Re: Use of 3490 tape

2004-02-05 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 04:08:10PM -0500, Kern, Thomas wrote: > If Amanda gets ported to the Windows platform, then a shop that doesn't want > or need all of the fancy/expensive features of Tivoli Storage Manager could > have a much cheaper alternative. Er, I hate to break it to you, but If y

Re: Use of 3490 tape

2004-02-05 Thread Kern, Thomas
If Amanda gets ported to the Windows platform, then a shop that doesn't want or need all of the fancy/expensive features of Tivoli Storage Manager could have a much cheaper alternative. Federal budget crunching is around the corner, and Tivoli could be a nice target for cutting. /Thomas Kern /301

Re: Ipl problem after instal on vm mdisk

2004-02-05 Thread Sue Sivets
Hi Mark, I ipl'ed from the VM reader, and I'm pretty sure I copied the right files from the cd since I just about followed the Suse install instructions word for word. The one thing I did not do was to specify "-d cdl" on the dasdfmt command because I thought it was supposed to be the default. It's

Re: Use of 3490 tape

2004-02-05 Thread Lucius, Leland
> > I *did* ask for volunteers before Xmas ...8-) > I would have too if I'd been around. Finally had some vacation. But, if I'd seen the invite I'd have certainly done it during the vacation. This the FUN kind of stuff. > If you already have the prereqs, it's pretty slick. The one > difficult p

Re: Adding Swap Space on the Fly

2004-02-05 Thread Mike Brady
Feature. If you want to interleave the use of multiple swap files you set the priorites to be the same. If you want to use swap mutliple swap files in some sort of preferred order (e.g. use a VDISK swap first, a swap partition second, a swap file third, etc) you set the priority of each appropria

Re: Use of 3490 tape

2004-02-05 Thread David Boyes
> > Yes, but it's not very efficient. Check out > > http://sinenomine.net/publications/presentations.php#2004 > for my MVMUA > > presentation on a way to make use of VM and/or > > z/OS-controlled tape w/o > > having to attach the drives directly to the Linux system. > > > Ah man...I wish this was d

Re: Use of 3490 tape

2004-02-05 Thread David Booher
Thank you for your response. I found what I was looking for in Device Drivers and Installation Commands book. It works. I agree it is a little clunky, especially when needing multiple tapes I did notice that I had to "mknod /dev/ntibm0 c 254 0", "mknod /dev/rtibm0 c 254 0" and "mknod /de

Re: Use of 3490 tape

2004-02-05 Thread Lucius, Leland
> > Yes, but it's not very efficient. Check out > http://sinenomine.net/publications/presentations.php#2004 for my MVMUA > presentation on a way to make use of VM and/or > z/OS-controlled tape w/o > having to attach the drives directly to the Linux system. > Ah man...I wish this was done b4 the hol

Re: Use of 3490 tape

2004-02-05 Thread David Boyes
Yes, but it's not very efficient. Check out http://sinenomine.net/publications/presentations.php#2004 for my MVMUA presentation on a way to make use of VM and/or z/OS-controlled tape w/o having to attach the drives directly to the Linux system. The approach in the presentation also allows non-VM g

Re: Adding Swap Space on the Fly

2004-02-05 Thread Lucius, Leland
Seems to work for me... tux:~ # free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 57112 55824 1288 0672 2116 -/+ buffers/cache: 53036 4076 Swap: 16 83144 81300 tux:~ # cat /proc/swaps Filena

Re: Problem with sysctl and hz_timer on SLES8

2004-02-05 Thread Marcy Cortes
Activate the boot service to call sysctl -p at boot: chkconfig -a boot.sysctl Marcy Cortes Wells Fargo Services Company -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Sammons Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [L

Re: Problem with sysctl and hz_timer on SLES8

2004-02-05 Thread Lucius, Leland
Try: sysctl -w kernel.hz_timer=0 > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Eric Sammons > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 2:04 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Problem with sysctl and hz_timer on SLES8 > > > I am trying to set my SLES8 gue

Re: Problem with sysctl and hz_timer on SLES8

2004-02-05 Thread Rich Smrcina
Issue the command 'sysctl -p' after boot ( /etc/rc.d/boot.local). On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 14:04, Eric Sammons wrote: > I am trying to set my SLES8 guest up to have hz_timer set to 0 at boot. I > have found that this can be done using sysctl.conf or dynamically by > sysctl kernel.hz_timer=0. Howeve

Problem with sysctl and hz_timer on SLES8

2004-02-05 Thread Eric Sammons
I am trying to set my SLES8 guest up to have hz_timer set to 0 at boot. I have found that this can be done using sysctl.conf or dynamically by sysctl kernel.hz_timer=0. However, it seems that the sysctl kernel.hz_timer=0 command does not work. See the following: sysctl kernel.hz_timer kernel.hz

Re: Ipl problem after instal on vm mdisk

2004-02-05 Thread Rob van der Heij
As far as formatting the disks before doing YaST, it's probably time for a shameless plug again. http://www.vm.ibm.com/download/packages/descript.cgi?CMS2CDL "The CMS2CDL program takes a minidisk that has been formatted by the CMS FORMAT command and modifies it such that it looks like a disk that

Re: Use of 3490 tape

2004-02-05 Thread David Booher
DId you try that link Mark? Looks like: DQoxMi4wMy4yMDAyIDE1OjI5OjI0IExpbnV4IG9uIDM5MCBQb3J0IM7B0MnTwcwowSk6DQoNCkhl bGxvIEppbSENCg0KWW91IGFyZSBhbG1vc3QgcmlnaHQuIEkgbG9vayBhdCBzb3VyY2UgY29kZSBh bmQgZm91bmQsIHRoYXQNCg0KbWlub3IgbnVtYmVyIDAgZm9yIHJld2luZGluZywNCm1pbm9yIG51 bWJlciAxIGZvciBub24tcmV

Re: Adding Swap Space on the Fly

2004-02-05 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 10:54:45AM -0800, Jim Sibley wrote: > All the swap space needs to be the same priority. > Otherwise, Linux only uses the first swap space. > Feature or bug? ?? As far as I can tell, if you add different swap spaces at different priorities, you go to the second after you ex

Re: Accessing OS/390data from Linux LPAR.

2004-02-05 Thread Paul Landay
George Wallace wrote: : > I have not seen much reply to your question but have similar issues. > Can someone tell me if there are more options available to satisfy > Ranga's post or is this area still a little weak along the lines of > a mature os/390 -to- Linux/390 link? : >> We have a CI

Re: Use of 3490 tape

2004-02-05 Thread Post, Mark K
David, Take a look at http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvtype?LINUX-VM.24500. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Booher Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Use of 3490 tape Can 3490 tape drive

Re: Adding Swap Space on the Fly

2004-02-05 Thread Post, Mark K
Feature. That's what "priority" means, after all. Use "this one" first, then "that one," then "all these." Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Sibley Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Adding

Adding Swap Space on the Fly

2004-02-05 Thread Jim Sibley
All the swap space needs to be the same priority. Otherwise, Linux only uses the first swap space. Feature or bug? = Jim Sibley RHCT, Implementor of Linux on zSeries "Computer are useless.They can only give answers." Pablo Picasso __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Fina

Use of 3490 tape

2004-02-05 Thread David Booher
Can 3490 tape drives be recognized by Linux/390? Up until now, I've been doing VM DDR backups of my volumes while Linux is down. I was wondering if there was a way to tar Linux directories directly to a 3490 tape. If so, what /dev devices are used. Thanks, David Booher, Systems Programmer De

Re: compile failures for the 2.4.21 and 2.4.23 kernels

2004-02-05 Thread Michael Lambert
> Well, if you're not paying for support *anyway*why not just install > Debian over the network? > > You get a much more recent kernel, actual security updates, all kinds of > good stuff. > > Adam We are about to begin migrating our guests to SLES 8, which we do have support for. We are still

Re: compile failures for the 2.4.21 and 2.4.23 kernels

2004-02-05 Thread Alan Cox
On Iau, 2004-02-05 at 17:47, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Thursday 05 February 2004 16:01, Michael Lambert wrote: > > Hello, everyone. > > > > I've been attempting to compile the 2.4.21 kernel with the latest > > patches from the june 2003 stream, as well as the 2.4.23 kernel with the > > experimental

Re: compile failures for the 2.4.21 and 2.4.23 kernels

2004-02-05 Thread Post, Mark K
Rick, That configure statement needs to have at least "--enable-__cxa_atexit" added to it, or gcc 3.x won't generate correct code for C++. This was pointed out to me by the guys in Boeblingen almost a year ago. Pointing it out in turn to Patrick Volkerding got me a mention in his Changelog. :)

Re: Ipl problem after instal on vm mdisk

2004-02-05 Thread Nix, Robert P.
In the copy of SLES8 I just received, the procedure you gave is documented in the README file on the first CD. Robert P. Nixinternet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mayo Clinic phone: 507-284-0844 RO-CE-8-857page

Re: compile failures for the 2.4.21 and 2.4.23 kernels

2004-02-05 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 11:10:37AM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > Debian does indeed have a lot of goodness. > > If I were interested in asking some relatively basic Debian-s390 > questions (like: how do I update my s390-tools so that fdasd actually > works?), would this be the right place? Or shoul

Re: compile failures for the 2.4.21 and 2.4.23 kernels

2004-02-05 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Thursday 05 February 2004 16:01, Michael Lambert wrote: > Hello, everyone. > > I've been attempting to compile the 2.4.21 kernel with the latest > patches from the june 2003 stream, as well as the 2.4.23 kernel with the > experimental patches. Yes, that's a trivial bug which gcc-3.x happen to i

Re: compile failures for the 2.4.21 and 2.4.23 kernels

2004-02-05 Thread Richard Troth
> I was afraid of that. Anyone have any tips of how to roll your own GCC rpm > (& glibc & binutils)? I'm feeling the pain of running an unsupported distro. Strictly speaking, you don't need an RPM. And if you're going to "roll your own GCC", as you indicated: # find some space, about 2

Re: Accessing OS/390data from Linux LPAR.

2004-02-05 Thread George Wallace
I am working on the same issue but I think using CICS sockets might be a more direct method to xfer the data than USS. The LU6.2 interface could relay the data stream via http over to the Linux side. You could even have CICS use an FTP client to open 2 socket (CONTROL) connections to two dif

Re: Ipl problem after instal on vm mdisk

2004-02-05 Thread Doug Bulbeck
Hi Sue, I had the same symptoms when I was installing SLES 8. It appears that when Yast was formatting the partitions that it was not doing it correctly. To get around the problem, this is what I did: 1. Start the installation process, and when yast comes up, go to the 'DASD Module Parameter S

Re: Kernel 2.4.24

2004-02-05 Thread Richard Troth
[I changed the subject line since the thread has forked.] > Again, I'm not sure what's going on with you and 2.4.24. It built just fine > for me, but we might be using different configuration options. Found it! It's the same error for me as what you had on 2.4.21 back in September. > Wait, I ju

Re: compile failures for the 2.4.21 and 2.4.23 kernels

2004-02-05 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 11:10:37AM -0500, Alex deVries wrote: > Debian does indeed have a lot of goodness. > > If I were interested in asking some relatively basic Debian-s390 > questions (like: how do I update my s390-tools so that fdasd actually > works?), would this be the right place? Or shou

Re: compile failures for the 2.4.21 and 2.4.23 kernels

2004-02-05 Thread Post, Mark K
I wouldn't mind seeing the question asked both places. (I don't mind reasonable cross-posting. :) Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alex deVries Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: compile f

Re: Kernel 2.4.24 qeth.o - unresolved symdol show_trace

2004-02-05 Thread Richard Troth
On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, Vic Cross wrote: > This is indeed possible; there are switches that let you point out a > specific module tree and/or symbol table (-b, -F). I thought that the > depmod invoked after a make modules_install was run that way, but from > what you're saying that's not the case...

Re: compile failures for the 2.4.21 and 2.4.23 kernels

2004-02-05 Thread Alex deVries
Debian does indeed have a lot of goodness. If I were interested in asking some relatively basic Debian-s390 questions (like: how do I update my s390-tools so that fdasd actually works?), would this be the right place? Or should I ask them on the debian-s390 list? - Alex Adam Thornton wrote: On

Re: compile failures for the 2.4.21 and 2.4.23 kernels

2004-02-05 Thread Post, Mark K
Michael, What I've done in the past for things like this is download the SUSE SRPM for a package, and modify the .spec file to match the corresponding Red Hat SRPM for their Intel platform. I use the SUSE SRPM as the base, since they have a unified code base, so all the Linux/390 patches are incl

Re: compile failures for the 2.4.21 and 2.4.23 kernels

2004-02-05 Thread Post, Mark K
Amen. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alex deVries Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 10:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: compile failures for the 2.4.21 and 2.4.23 kernels What distro are you using? My suggestion for buil

Re: compile failures for the 2.4.21 and 2.4.23 kernels

2004-02-05 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 09:46:58AM -0600, Michael Lambert wrote: > I was afraid of that. Anyone have any tips of how to roll your own GCC rpm > (& glibc & binutils)? I'm feeling the pain of running an unsupported distro. Well, if you're not paying for support *anyway*why not just install Debia

Re: compile failures for the 2.4.21 and 2.4.23 kernels

2004-02-05 Thread Alex deVries
What distro are you using? My suggestion for building somewhat more involved packages is first to try to get them to build without RPM, and then work on packaging. It's much easier to fix and resume building outside of rpmbuild. - Alex Michael Lambert wrote: Yes, I ran into this. You're using

Re: compile failures for the 2.4.21 and 2.4.23 kernels

2004-02-05 Thread Michael Lambert
> Yes, I ran into this. > > You're using GCC 2.95. > > The kernel notes claim you need to use at least 3.2. > > I got it to work (Debian) with GCC 3.0. > > Adam I was afraid of that. Anyone have any tips of how to roll your own GCC rpm (& glibc & binutils)? I'm feeling the pain of running an unsup

Re: compile failures for the 2.4.21 and 2.4.23 kernels

2004-02-05 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 09:01:14AM -0600, Michael Lambert wrote: > Hello, everyone. > > I've been attempting to compile the 2.4.21 kernel with the latest > patches from the june 2003 stream, as well as the 2.4.23 kernel with the > experimental patches. > > Both kernels break during the compile proc

compile failures for the 2.4.21 and 2.4.23 kernels

2004-02-05 Thread Michael Lambert
Hello, everyone. I've been attempting to compile the 2.4.21 kernel with the latest patches from the june 2003 stream, as well as the 2.4.23 kernel with the experimental patches. Both kernels break during the compile process in the same spot. Here is a sample of the output: make[2]: Entering dir

Re: Bastille-Linux for SuSE

2004-02-05 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
Here's the response I got from Suse on my question about Bastille: many thanks for your enquiry to SuSE S/390 support. You wrote: > As part of our evaluation of SLES8 as an internet-facing platform, I attempted > to run the RPM-provided "bastille" against our standard-build server. > [..] Unfor

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Re: Kernel 2.4.24 qeth.o - unresolved symdol show_trace

2004-02-05 Thread Vic Cross
G'day Mark, On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, Post, Mark K wrote: > The only way that I can see to avoid that would be to have the > ability to point depmod to the new kernel, and have it figure things out > from there. This is indeed possible; there are switches that let you point out a specific module tree

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