Re: VM TCPIP guest router not on GLAN?

2004-07-27 Thread Rob van der Heij
Vic Cross wrote: I had to do this once, but do you think I can remember how? :) Either with NETSTAT CP or with SEND CP TCPIP ... The first approach when your network colleagues are cooperative, the second for when you rely on your VM Systems Programmer being helpful. Rob

Re: Sine Nomine WWW site revamped

2004-07-27 Thread Phil Payne
Quick note for those of you who may have bookmarked items on the Sine Nomine WWW site (such as SWAPGEN, etc). The WWW site has been revamped, and your bookmarks probably don't work any longer. You may want to check and update any references you have to our site. We've already sent a list of

Re: Installation and administration

2004-07-27 Thread Maneesh Menon
Hello, We are planning to install Linux on Bare machine. Should we opt for VM directly, instead? With regards, Maneesh -Original Message- From: Maneesh Menon Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 4:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Installation and administration Hello, I am

Re: Installation and administration

2004-07-27 Thread Rich Smrcina
You have much more flexibility with VM. You can also run many Linux instances under VM to accomplish varying tasks. There are lots of other benefits as well, see: http://www.vm.ibm.com/linux/benefits.html On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 06:18, Maneesh Menon wrote: Hello, We are planning to install

Instance slowness investigation

2004-07-27 Thread Marist EDU
One of our instances encountered several periods of slowness yesterday and during my investigation one thing discovered that the one having the problems wasn't using any of the swap assigned to it. Below is the output of cat /proc/meminfo, first on the slow instance then on another instance that

Re: mp2003

2004-07-27 Thread Noll, Ralph
Ok... I have put the debian in vm rdr. Ran rexx exec to copy to tape Ipl from the mp2k3 the tape I get a disabled wait 000a0 Any ideas.. Thanks for all your help.. Ralph -Original Message- From: David Boyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 8:49 PM

Re: mp2003

2004-07-27 Thread Vic Cross
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004, Noll, Ralph wrote: Ok... I have put the debian in vm rdr. Ran rexx exec to copy to tape Ipl from the mp2k3 the tape I get a disabled wait 000a0 You are likely to need the tapemarks between the files... David gave the command to do this with his REXX version

Re: mp2003

2004-07-27 Thread Noll, Ralph
Thanks a bunch that worked.. Right until this message Cramfs: wrong magic.what ever this means And Kernel panic vfs: unable to mount root fs on 01:00.??? Ralph -Original Message- From: Vic Cross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:48 AM To: [EMAIL

Re: Installation and administration

2004-07-27 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jul 27, 2004, at 6:18 AM, Maneesh Menon wrote: Hello, We are planning to install Linux on Bare machine. Should we opt for VM directly, instead? If you have the budget for it, absolutely. S/390 machine cycles are so much more expensive than Intel cycles that the only way it makes economic sense

Re: mp2003

2004-07-27 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jul 27, 2004, at 8:58 AM, Noll, Ralph wrote: Thanks a bunch that worked.. Right until this message Cramfs: wrong magic.what ever this means And Kernel panic vfs: unable to mount root fs on 01:00.??? It means you're getting closer. You loaded the kernel. One of the first lines on

Re: mp2003

2004-07-27 Thread Noll, Ralph
Do I still need the tape marks between the files... I never done that before on the marist dist.. Thanks Ralph -Original Message- From: Adam Thornton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 9:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: mp2003 On Jul 27, 2004, at

Re: Installation and administration

2004-07-27 Thread Jose Raul Baron Rodriguez
Hi Maneesh, please excuse my delay in answering but I didn't see your message until now to my surprise. The real advantage to install Linux under z/VM is this: If you install Linux on a bare machine you need a correspondence: 1 Linux -- 1 bare machine 2 Linux -- 2 bare machines

Re: mp2003

2004-07-27 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jul 27, 2004, at 9:23 AM, Noll, Ralph wrote: Do I still need the tape marks between the files... I never done that before on the marist dist.. It probably won't hurt. Might help. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Installation and administration

2004-07-27 Thread James Melin
IF you plan to just play with it, putting it on an LPAR is fine. You'll still get some idea of what you're dealing with. However, since you only have a finite amount of lpars, doing this rapidly becomes a limiting factor when you want to have many Linux guests. If you already have VM at your

Re: Installation and administration

2004-07-27 Thread Maneesh Menon
Hello, Are there manuals available for installation on Bare Machines? With regards, Maneesh -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Melin Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 7:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Installation and

Re: mp2003

2004-07-27 Thread Noll, Ralph
I have tried it many times still getting couldn't find valid ram disk image starting at 0.. I guess try and download again??? -Original Message- From: Adam Thornton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 9:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: mp2003 On Jul

Re: mp2003

2004-07-27 Thread Noll, Ralph
DEBIAN INITAG A1 F 1024 1284321 7/27/04 9:50:20 DEB EXEC A1 F 78 32 1 7/27/04 9:40:02 DEBIAN PARMFILE A1 F 1024 1 1 7/27/04 8:37:07 DEBIAN INIT2A1 F 1024 83 21

Instance slowness investigation

2004-07-27 Thread Barton Robinson
I'm investigating several reasons for sever slowdowns. What other symptoms are you having? What is your paging subsystem? Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 07:05:46 -0500 From: Marist EDU [EMAIL PROTECTED] One of our instances encountered several periods of slowness yesterday and during my

Re: Installation and administration

2004-07-27 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 07/27/2004 at 09:31 EST, James Melin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IF you plan to just play with it, putting it on an LPAR is fine. You'll still get some idea of what you're dealing with. However, since you only have a finite amount of lpars, doing this rapidly becomes a limiting factor

Re: Installation and administration

2004-07-27 Thread Post, Mark K
http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedbookAbstracts/sg246264.html Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maneesh Menon Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 10:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Installation and administration

Re: MySQL 4.0

2004-07-27 Thread David Boyes
On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 17:31, Marcy Cortes wrote: Has anyone run this on SuSE 8? Does anyone know where I can find it in .rpm format? We've been running it on our Intel systems for quite a while now, and it's been completely stable (and very useful). With the addition of the referential

Re: Sine Nomine WWW site revamped

2004-07-27 Thread David Boyes
META HTTP-EQUIV=refresh CONTENT=3; URL=the new one Isn't automation wonderful? Someone tole me once that it was what computers were designed for. ...bouncy 70's music plays... Gee, Mr Wizard, how DID you get that predictive model for every possible transition combination without asking

Re: mp2003

2004-07-27 Thread Noll, Ralph
I guess I will give up for now.. I'll just load suse...it works I keep getting no valid ramdisk... I have ftp'ed many times and created the tape Many times.. Even different tapes... Same error.. Thanksforall your help Ralph

Re: Sine Nomine WWW site revamped

2004-07-27 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 11:56, David Boyes wrote: (PPS -- For folks who don't recognize it, Ask Mr Wizard was a popular science education TV show in the late 1970s and early 1908s. Oh, Mr. Wizard goes back farther than that! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Wizard -- David Andrews A. Duda and

OT: Watch Mr. Wizard (was RE: Sine Nomine WWW site revamped)

2004-07-27 Thread Kern, Thomas
Watch Mr. Wizard with Don Herbert premiered on March 3, 1951 on the Chicago affiliate of NBC. It was cancelled by NBC on September 5,1965. NBC later revived the series for September 1971 through September 1972. /Thomas Kern /301-903-2211 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port

Re: Installation and administration

2004-07-27 Thread Coffin Michael C
Hi Maneesh, If you can afford VM - get it! It will make your life a LOT easier, and allow you to run multiple Linux instances in a single LPAR (or in basic mode if the box is not LPAR'd) under VM. You'll also be able to better manage those Linux guests with VM as a hypervisor. Michael Coffin,

Re: Installation and administration

2004-07-27 Thread Coffin Michael C
Which Linux for z/Series distribution are you planning on using? The short answer is that all should have some amount of documentation available. :) Michael Coffin, VM Systems Programmer Internal Revenue Service - Room 6527 Constitution Avenue, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20224 Voice: (202)

Re: MySQL 4.0

2004-07-27 Thread Marcy Cortes
I don't see any s390 rpm on that page. Tar files, yes and rpm's for other platforms, but not a s390 .rpm - or am I missing something? Maybe I'll have to go with that. I was hoping to find a .rpm to make life simpler. Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged

Re: Watch Mr. Wizard (was RE: Sine Nomine WWW site revamped)

2004-07-27 Thread David Boyes
Watch Mr. Wizard with Don Herbert premiered on March 3, 1951 on the Chicago affiliate of NBC. It was cancelled by NBC on September 5,1965. NBC later revived the series for September 1971 through September 1972. Yep. KQED (our local TV station at the time) ran it in reruns well into the 1980s.

Re: MySQL 4.0

2004-07-27 Thread Post, Mark K
It is a tar.gz file, but it doesn't contain source. It contains the binaries. Not an RPM, true, but something you could do some testing with, perhaps. If you want a source RPM from which you can build something that will most likely run quite well on SLES8, take a look at this:

Re: MySQL 4.0

2004-07-27 Thread Marcy Cortes
Thanks Mark. I don't particularly want to be bleeding edge, but someone here says they need some feature in it on their server. Marcy Cortes (415) 243-6343 This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the

Re: MySQL 4.0

2004-07-27 Thread Ryan Ware
Maybe they need the outrageously new and cutting edge ability to do a subselect or run stored procedure ;) -Original Message- From: Marcy Cortes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 12:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MySQL 4.0 Thanks Mark. I don't

Re: Sine Nomine WWW site revamped

2004-07-27 Thread Phil Payne
META HTTP-EQUIV=refresh CONTENT=3; URL=the new one Isn't automation wonderful? Someone told me once that it was what computers were designed for. Well, Billy, it's like this: Sometimes you put a transition support piece in place for a short period, but it's really more effective to ask

Re: mp2003

2004-07-27 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 09:48, Noll, Ralph wrote: I have tried it many times still getting couldn't find valid ram disk image starting at 0.. I guess try and download again??? You might go look on the VM downloads site and grab MD5. It's a module and a Rexx interface to it that does an MD5

Re: mp2003

2004-07-27 Thread McKown, John
Ralph, This vaguely reminds me of a problem that I had with Debian(?) under Hercules. As I recall, the problem was that I created my tape image using the card images. This did not work! IIRC the tape LRECL/BLOCKSIZE was 1024 and the card images were 80 bytes. So the last 944 bytes of every record

Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-27 Thread Biggs, Eric J [ITS]
For anyone that is using Red Hat AS 3.0 for zSeries, can you provide feedback (positive or negative) about your experience with the product? Many thanks. Eric Biggs Sprint -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-27 Thread Davis, Larry
I was very happy with the install and support form Redhat for a couple of POC we did. We are looking at convincing Sybase to put there database products on Linux on zSeries and then we think things will really take off here. Larry Davis -Original Message- From: Biggs, Eric J [ITS]

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-27 Thread Chris Cox
Biggs, Eric J [ITS] wrote: For anyone that is using Red Hat AS 3.0 for zSeries, can you provide feedback (positive or negative) about your experience with the product? Light years better than RHAS2.1 (or whatever you want to call their 7.x product on z). Might be better than SLES8. We're getting

Re: mp2003

2004-07-27 Thread Coffin Michael C
Shouldn't those DEBIAN files be RECFM F LRECL 80? Michael Coffin, VM Systems Programmer Internal Revenue Service - Room 6527 Constitution Avenue, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20224 Voice: (202) 927-4188 FAX: (202) 622-6726 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-27 Thread James Melin
When you get SLES9, I will be VERY interested in how you upgrade an existing SLES8 system to SLES9. A migration experience story would be nice to see. Chris Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] mm.comTo

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-27 Thread David Boyes
For anyone that is using Red Hat AS 3.0 for zSeries, can you provide feedback (positive or negative) about your experience with the product? It seems much better tested than the previous release, although support still seems to be spotty (the quality of the support varies widely from call to

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-27 Thread Kohrs, Steven
On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 14:42, Biggs, Eric J [ITS] wrote: For anyone that is using Red Hat AS 3.0 for zSeries, can you provide feedback (positive or negative) about your experience with the product? We installed RHEL 3.0 to test a claim* that WebSphere ran twice as fast under that distro.

Re: Red Hat AS 3.0

2004-07-27 Thread Chris Cox
James Melin wrote: When you get SLES9, I will be VERY interested in how you upgrade an existing SLES8 system to SLES9. A migration experience story would be nice to see. We're an ISV... likely will be a new install rather than an upgrade (sorry).

New Paper on linuxvm.org

2004-07-27 Thread Post, Mark K
Dennis Wunder, Carlos Ordonez, and Michael MacIsaac have contributed a paper on z/VM VSWITCH with failover. According to the abstract, An overview of z/VM's virtual switch is described, then a secenario [sic], or HOWTO, is presented in section 1.2, Setting up VSWITCH with failover on page 4.

Re: mp2003

2004-07-27 Thread Post, Mark K
No, because he wants to write them to a tape. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Coffin Michael C Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 10:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: mp2003 Shouldn't those DEBIAN files be RECFM F LRECL 80?

Re: Instance slowness investigation

2004-07-27 Thread Post, Mark K
Follow up with Barton, but I don't think your problems have anything to do with your swap files. You have 750MB systems defined. Of that amount, 330MB, and 220MB are being used for cache, and 12MB and 117MB are being used for buffers. So, for each of them, roughly 340MB is being used for one or

Re: mp2003

2004-07-27 Thread Noll, Ralph
No I already looked at that... Any other ideas -Original Message- From: McKown, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 1:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: mp2003 Ralph, This vaguely reminds me of a problem that I had with Debian(?) under Hercules. As I

Re: Deleting files in a directory more than 5 days old

2004-07-27 Thread Vic Cross
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Post, Mark K wrote: If you want files that are older than 5 days, and haven't been accessed in that time, the -atime predicate does that. Beware that some distro vendors and performance mavens are starting to recommend that the noatime mount option be used to increase disk