Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-26 Thread John Summerfield
David Boyes wrote: I'm more concerned about anti-trust. If the IBM/Sun merger is blocked on anti-trust grounds, and Sun cannot locate another angel investor, my Fujitsu? FJ uses a lot of sparc* stuff, does its own development, and is in the same kind of business - supplying computers and

Re: Old IBM Mainframe - Still Useful?

2009-03-26 Thread John Summerfield
Andrew Wiley wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:44 AM, John Summerfield deb...@herakles.homelinux.org wrote: Okay, here is what I think. Count the cost. Do you get a full, working system? If not, there are extra costs for the bits that are missing. We're still trying to figure this out,

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-26 Thread Alan Cox
I consistently see this complaint, and it really rubs me wrong. Why does everyone compare rpm to apt? Wouldn't rpm to deb be the correct comparison, and then compare yum to apt? Yes - rpm is a file format. apt, yum, package-kit and various other tools then install rpm and or dpkg files.

Re: SUSE on Native LPAR

2009-03-26 Thread Ceruti, Gerard G
Hi Martin This is how I have done all my installs, initial boot off the HMC CD, then point to an NFS server ( SuSE PC) I have not been unable to get FTP work, but NFS works great, check the NFS exports are all defined correctly, Have you checked /var/log/messages on the PC for any error

2009-03-24 Linux on System z Documentation update on developerWorks

2009-03-26 Thread Gerhard Hiller
Please refer to: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/linux390/whatsnew.html to download the new Device Drivers, Features, and Commands as available with SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 and related hints, which we published 2009-03-24. We have not announced this update earlier, because we

Re: Old IBM Mainframe - Still Useful?

2009-03-26 Thread Andrew Wiley
Well, you've given me a lot to think about. I guess what I'll probably wind up doing is comparing hardware specs and maintenance prices between the mainframe and a high end PC server that we could build or buy. For now, though, I guess I'll have to wait for the specs. Andrew

using ldappasswd with zLinux and LDAP

2009-03-26 Thread CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)
We are trying to allow users to change their mainframe password through LDAP via ldappasswd command: home/user1)#ldappasswd -A -S -H ldap://hostname:port# user1 Old password: Re-enter old password: New password: Re-enter new password: SASL/EXTERNAL authentication started

Re: using ldappasswd with zLinux and LDAP

2009-03-26 Thread Patrick Spinler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Unless you've explicitly set up a SASL authentication method, you're probably using simple authentication. Indicate this to linux via the -x command line option to most ldap utils. Test it via ldapsearch, first. E.g.: ldapsearch -H

Re: using ldappasswd with zLinux and LDAP

2009-03-26 Thread Patrick Spinler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 One more thing before I forget, if you have a password sufficient pam_ldap.so ... statement in the appropriate /etc/pam.d/... file, with the appropriate defaults in /etc/ldap.conf, then users should be able to use the standard unix 'passwd'

Re: using ldappasswd with zLinux and LDAP

2009-03-26 Thread Jerry Ekegren
What you are looking for can be done. It will require a connector between the LDAP server and Top Secret. I've set this up to run between eDirectory and RACF using a DirXML RACF connector that we bought from Novell. You would need to find a similar tool that would run between your LDAP server

Re: using ldappasswd with zLinux and LDAP

2009-03-26 Thread CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)
I like you're thinking and tested your idea however got a different error: ldappasswd -A -S -x -H ldap://hostname:port# user1 Old password: Re-enter old password: New password: Re-enter new password: Result: Protocol error (2) Additional info: No backend for OID=1.3.6.1.4.1.4203.1.11.1 James

Re: using ldappasswd with zLinux and LDAP

2009-03-26 Thread Patrick Spinler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR) wrote: I like you're thinking and tested your idea however got a different error: ldappasswd -A -S -x -H ldap://hostname:port# user1 Old password: Re-enter old password: New password: Re-enter new password: Result:

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-26 Thread David Boyes
On 3/25/09 11:27 PM, Patrick Spinler spinler.patr...@mayo.edu wrote: I consistently see this complaint, and it really rubs me wrong. Why does everyone compare rpm to apt? Wouldn't rpm to deb be the correct comparison, and then compare yum to apt? Because the distribution vendors continue to

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-26 Thread David Boyes
On 3/26/09 2:00 AM, John Summerfield deb...@herakles.homelinux.org wrote: David Boyes wrote: I'm more concerned about anti-trust. If the IBM/Sun merger is blocked on anti-trust grounds, and Sun cannot locate another angel investor, my Fujitsu? FJ uses a lot of sparc* stuff, does its own

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-26 Thread Jeff Savit
I'm going to avoid partisan issues, or at least attempt to do so :-) but some corrections on Sun-specific stuff: On 3/25/09 2:07 PM, David Boyes wrote: In their defense, much of this is not technical in origin, but in licensing agreements. The reason there is no OpenSolaris for SPARC is that

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-26 Thread David Boyes
On 3/26/09 2:13 PM, Jeff Savit jeff.sa...@sun.com wrote: I'm going to avoid partisan issues, or at least attempt to do so :-) but some corrections on Sun-specific stuff: The first part of that is correct, but not some of the other parts, including the bit about OpenSolaris on SPARC. The

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-26 Thread Richard Gasiorowski
Guys Interesting stuff - kinfd of like watching an arm wrestling match. Take it offline and let us know when y'all come to agreement. Thx 'Where ever you go - There you are!! ' Richard (Gaz) Gasiorowski System z - Linux Product Manager Portfolio Platform Services CSC 3170 Fairview Park Dr.,

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-26 Thread John Summerfield
David Boyes wrote: On 3/25/09 11:27 PM, Patrick Spinler spinler.patr...@mayo.edu wrote: I consistently see this complaint, and it really rubs me wrong. Why does everyone compare rpm to apt? Wouldn't rpm to deb be the correct comparison, and then compare yum to apt? Because the distribution

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-26 Thread John Summerfield
David Boyes wrote: On 3/26/09 2:00 AM, John Summerfield deb...@herakles.homelinux.org wrote: David Boyes wrote: I'm more concerned about anti-trust. If the IBM/Sun merger is blocked on anti-trust grounds, and Sun cannot locate another angel investor, my Fujitsu? FJ uses a lot of sparc*

Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-26 Thread Carey Tyler Schug
My 2 cents: I am not an expert. I easily found a way to find a way to get a list of all processes in the parent tree of my existing task in Solaris, but even asking for help on the local Linux user group, could not find a way in Linux, short of writing a program with a loop containing tests..

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-26 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, John Summerfield wrote: I haven't yet figured out what's wrong with up2date. Except of course that the server side source code has never been released, and ran against an Oracle backend using stored procedures for dep solving (so I am told) ... What's not to love,

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-26 Thread Jeff Savit
David Boyes wrote: On 3/26/09 2:13 PM, Jeff Savit jeff.sa...@sun.com wrote: I'm going to avoid partisan issues, or at least attempt to do so :-) but some corrections on Sun-specific stuff: The first part of that is correct, but not some of the other parts, including the bit about

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-26 Thread Larry Ploetz
On 3/26/09 5:47 PM, Carey Tyler Schug wrote: My 2 cents: I am not an expert. I easily found a way to find a way to get a list of all processes in the parent tree of my existing task in Solaris, but even asking for help on the local Linux user group, could not find a way in Linux, short of

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-26 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mar 26, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Jeff Savit wrote: We deliberately don't break compatibility in the long-term-support version of the OS, as that would be a Bad Thing for our customers who count on tools to work the way they did even if a newer and even better (but not strictly compatible)

LVM Striping and RAID for performance?

2009-03-26 Thread Fred Schmidt
Would somebody please clarify - is LVM striping still of benefit to performance if your disk is RAID? If so, why? Regards, Fred Schmidt NT Government, Australia -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Solaris v. Linux

2009-03-26 Thread Scott Rohling
Is there another place where the virtues of non-Linux OS's can be debated? I'm starting to get annoyed at the irrelevant (to me anyway) tennis match.. it's drifted on some wayward current to... ? Scott -- For LINUX-390

Re: LVM Striping and RAID for performance?

2009-03-26 Thread Mark Post
On 3/27/2009 at 1:17 AM, Fred Schmidt fred.schm...@nt.gov.au wrote: Would somebody please clarify - is LVM striping still of benefit to performance if your disk is RAID? If so, why? If you mean the disks in the storage array itself, then yes, because z/VM and Linux can only start one