Re: Interesting tweet - kvm

2012-11-08 Thread Dan Horák
Marcy Cortes píše v Čt 08. 11. 2012 v 16:23 -0600: > Google found this > http://kvmforumovirtworkshop2012.sched.org/event/cf566f514621e3e7e04f1974eb08cb9f and also found this thread with a patch set http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2012-09/msg00340.html Dan -- Dan Horák, RHCE Sen

Re: dasdfmt - why are you so darn slow?

2012-11-08 Thread David Boyes
> For the time being, you could format it with ICKDSF and then DDR cylinder 1 > from a Linux pack to fool dasdfmt... Has anyone tried LXFMT for comparison? I don't have a spare pack to try at the moment, but from reading the code, it seems to know a few more tricks about the 390 I/O system, and

Re: dasdfmt - why are you so darn slow?

2012-11-08 Thread Marcy Cortes
I did NOREADCHECK and the time was identical. This is the ICKDSF format you were thinking of, right? CPVOL FMT MODE(ESA) UNIT(E886) VOLID(E886VM) NOVFY RANGE(0,10016) NOREADCHECK > For the time being, you could format it with ICKDSF and then DDR cylinder 1 > from a Linux pack to fool dasdfmt...

Re: Interesting tweet - kvm

2012-11-08 Thread Rick Troth
Barcelona On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Neale Ferguson wrote: > At #KVM Forum? Don't miss: "KVM on IBM System z: Channel I/O And How To > Virtualize It" by #IBM - Nov 9 at 10:30am. Anyone have details? > > -- > For LINUX-390 s

Re: Interesting tweet - kvm

2012-11-08 Thread Marcy Cortes
Google found this http://kvmforumovirtworkshop2012.sched.org/event/cf566f514621e3e7e04f1974eb08cb9f Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or tak

Re: dasdfmt - why are you so darn slow?

2012-11-08 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 8 November 2012 20:54, Marcy Cortes wrote: > OK I compared ICKDSF to dasdfmt for Rob. > And the other tests I happened to have run from the CPU at the site that > didn't have the primary dasd. I was essentially adding another 11miles. > Oops - not what I was intending to look at! > > > da

Interesting tweet - kvm

2012-11-08 Thread Neale Ferguson
At #KVM Forum? Don't miss: "KVM on IBM System z: Channel I/O And How To Virtualize It" by #IBM - Nov 9 at 10:30am. Anyone have details? -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.

Re: dasdfmt - why are you so darn slow?

2012-11-08 Thread Marcy Cortes
OK I compared ICKDSF to dasdfmt for Rob. And the other tests I happened to have run from the CPU at the site that didn't have the primary dasd. I was essentially adding another 11miles. Oops - not what I was intending to look at! dasdfmt of 1 cyl - non PPRC non XRC- 1:55 ICKDSF of 10

Re: CKBKVM62.tgz

2012-11-08 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Hello list, Alan Levy wrote: > The link in the book is not working. Sure enough, the link (z/VM file name) for the latest Virtualization Cookbook is CKB-VM62, which I had just about everywhere in the book except for one important place in section 4.2, where I had CKBKVM62. That is now fixed. As

Re: RHEL 6.2 dying on shutdown

2012-11-08 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Hello List, I had written back on Oct 12th: > This is odd - I'm having a RHEL 6.2 system die on shutdown while trying to > shut down the loopback interface: > > Shutting down system logger: Ý OK ¨ > Shutting down interface eth0: Ý OK ¨ > Shutting down loopback interface: Ý OK ¨ > INFO:

Re: dasdfmt - why are you so darn slow?

2012-11-08 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 8 November 2012 18:03, Marcy Cortes wrote: > Yes, Rob is right (as usual). Definitely PPRC is in play with the numbers I > reported. Probably XRC write pacing is involved too. > > I tried it on a non-PPRC'd, non-XRC'd device. I only had 10,000 cyl > available there. That took 3:30. If

Re: dasdfmt - why are you so darn slow?

2012-11-08 Thread Marcy Cortes
Yes, Rob is right (as usual). Definitely PPRC is in play with the numbers I reported. Probably XRC write pacing is involved too. I tried it on a non-PPRC'd, non-XRC'd device. I only had 10,000 cyl available there. That took 3:30. If I assume linear and multiple by 6.55 that would be 23 m

Re: dasdfmt - why are you so darn slow?

2012-11-08 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 8 November 2012 16:31, Ingo Adlung wrote: >> PS No, dasdfmt does not do a verify. There is a bit of reading >> afterwards, but that's it. ICKDSF however does do a verify. > > Interesting, isn't end-to-end data checking provided by FICON I/O about > there not being a need for data verification?

Re: dasdfmt - why are you so darn slow?

2012-11-08 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 8 November 2012 16:31, Alan Altmark wrote: > On Thursday, 11/08/2012 at 06:47 EST, Rob van der Heij > wrote: >> On a real round brown disk, doing a "format write" is a delicate >> process that requires dedication and a steady hand. It's done one >> track at a time. This takes a full round tri

Re: dasdfmt - why are you so darn slow?

2012-11-08 Thread Ingo Adlung
> PS No, dasdfmt does not do a verify. There is a bit of reading > afterwards, but that's it. ICKDSF however does do a verify. Interesting, isn't end-to-end data checking provided by FICON I/O about there not being a need for data verification? At the time you wrote the data and got a successful

Re: dasdfmt - why are you so darn slow?

2012-11-08 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 11/08/2012 at 06:47 EST, Rob van der Heij wrote: > On a real round brown disk, doing a "format write" is a delicate > process that requires dedication and a steady hand. It's done one > track at a time. This takes a full round trip per track, so roughly 1 > million of those in your ca

Re: dasdfmt - why are you so darn slow?

2012-11-08 Thread Neale Ferguson
Assuming that the count/key information is really just meta data and doesn't have the same physical presence as it did on real 3340/50/80/90 devices, and given that this type of operation is common; I was wondering whether creating a new CCW to do the format and let the controller/device take care

Re: Any Official HMC Screenshots?

2012-11-08 Thread Klaus Bergmann
How about SC28-6895-01, Hardware Management Console Operations Guide, Version 2.11.0? Klaus Bergmann -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO

Re: dasdfmt - why are you so darn slow?

2012-11-08 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 8 November 2012 00:58, Marcy Cortes wrote: > The list is a little quiet so I thought I would ask this. > > It takes about 42 minutes here to dasdfmt a volume with 65519 cylinders on it. > It takes about 18 minutes to dd an already formatted volume over to a new one. > It also takes about 19 min

Re: dasdfmt - why are you so darn slow?

2012-11-08 Thread Peter Oberparleiter
On 08.11.2012 00:58, Marcy Cortes wrote: It takes about 42 minutes here to dasdfmt a volume with 65519 cylinders on it. It takes about 18 minutes to dd an already formatted volume over to a new one. It also takes about 19 minutes to fill it up with zeros by cat /dev/zero to it. Why does dasdfmt

Re: Any Official HMC Screenshots?

2012-11-08 Thread Steffen Maier
Hi Mark, On 11/07/2012 11:52 PM, Mark Post wrote: Cross-posted to Linux-390, IBMVM and IBM-MAIN. I'm developing some documentation which deals with Linux installation into an LPAR. I would like to include images/screenshots of the various HMC screens involved so that the end-user can better re

Re: dasdfmt - why are you so darn slow?

2012-11-08 Thread Pavelka, Tomas
I have recently run a similar experiment measuring how fast do various disk operations run. Although I haven't attempted to compare dd with dasdfmt and the variation is high, here are the most commonly seen numbers: dasdfmt + pvcreate : 30-40 MB/s dd : 30-80 MB/s dasdfmt + pvcreate, parallel poo