Re: Install FEDORA problem (was Where to get zLINUX)

2012-11-28 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 11/28/2012 at 02:26 PM, Tom Huegel wrote: > Do you have tape drives you can IPL from? > You could download the install files to z/OS where you could edit the prm > file then copy everything to a tape. > IPL the tape in your LPAR. Or use the "IPL from server" option to get the files from

Re: VNC for RHEL 6

2012-11-28 Thread SrinivasG
Thanks Mike. I will set up yum as suggested. Regards, Srinivas G -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael MacIsaac Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 6:29 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VNC for RHEL 6 > why don't you u

Re: Install FEDORA problem (was Where to get zLINUX)

2012-11-28 Thread John McKown
That would take some messing around, but I may be able to get one of the old 3490 external tape drives on that system. Thanks. On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 11:26 -0800, Tom Huegel wrote: > John, > > Do you have tape drives you can IPL from? > You could download the install files to z/OS where you could

Re: comparison of virtualization methods

2012-11-28 Thread Rodger Donaldson
On 29.11.2012 10:09, Patrick Spinler wrote: Several of the things I've seen mention of as specific Z advantages in this thread, though, are just as easily doable on other platforms. For instance someone mentioned fast cloning on Z; however I know a guy here who has a virtualbox on top of Solari

Re: Oracle compression

2012-11-28 Thread Damian Gallagher
Is this the OS level compression (tar, zip, etc) or an Oracle compression function ? What is the vendor's system ? And if it's Oracle level, what exactly do you mean by " import an Oracle database template" ? That covers a lot of options, and we can go get a room to talk privately :-) Cheers D

Re: Install FEDORA problem (was Where to get zLINUX)

2012-11-28 Thread Hall, Kenneth J
I'm getting that too, but I thought it related to kickstart. Haven't had a chance to do a "normal" install yet. You're not the only one seeing this. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Huegel Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1

Re: Install FEDORA problem (was Where to get zLINUX)

2012-11-28 Thread Tom Huegel
John, Do you have tape drives you can IPL from? You could download the install files to z/OS where you could edit the prm file then copy everything to a tape. IPL the tape in your LPAR. Just a thought. Tom On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:43 AM, McKown, John < john.mck...@healthmarkets.com> wrote: > T

Re: comparison of virtualization methods

2012-11-28 Thread Patrick Spinler
I've worked with a number of different virtualization solutions for both large server based deployments (xen, kvm, vmware esx, z/VM, virtualbox on top of ZFS) and personal use (vmware fusion, parallels, virtualbox). The things I've noted that are significant differences for a z solution vrs any of

Re: Install FEDORA problem (was Where to get zLINUX)

2012-11-28 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:38:58PM -0600, McKown, John wrote: > Thanks for telling me that. I am abandoning my attempts to do anything with > z/Linux at this point. I know that it is theoretically possibly for me to > cross compile a z/Linux kernel on my Linux/Intel desktop. But I don't > consider

Re: Oracle compression

2012-11-28 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 11/28/2012 at 12:29 PM, "Melancon, Ruddy" >>> wrote: > I have a user that is trying to import an Oracle database template to a > vendor. He is indicating that the compression in Linux on z and the vendor's > system are different. Has anyone run into this before? There are all sorts o

Re: Install FEDORA problem (was Where to get zLINUX)

2012-11-28 Thread McKown, John
Thanks again for the update. I may or may not continue. Or maybe I'll just keep playing "Sweet Climber" on my tablet. Seems to be more my speed anymore. I _used_ to be a good techie. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets® 9151 Boulevard 26 • N. Ric

Re: Install FEDORA problem (was Where to get zLINUX)

2012-11-28 Thread McKown, John
David, Thanks for telling me that. I am abandoning my attempts to do anything with z/Linux at this point. I know that it is theoretically possibly for me to cross compile a z/Linux kernel on my Linux/Intel desktop. But I don't consider it to be that interesting to me. Especially given that the

Re: Install FEDORA problem (was Where to get zLINUX)

2012-11-28 Thread Dan Horák
David Boyes píše v St 28. 11. 2012 v 16:58 +: > I updated the bug mentioned with your symptoms. Also, I suspect this will > fail on a z9 -- like most of the other Linuxen, I think they're building with > the minimum architecture set to z10 or higher. Fedora and RHEL are building for z9 or

Oracle compression

2012-11-28 Thread Melancon, Ruddy
I have a user that is trying to import an Oracle database template to a vendor. He is indicating that the compression in Linux on z and the vendor's system are different. Has anyone run into this before? I am running zVM 6.1 with SLES 11.1. The Oracle is 10G I think. Ruddy Melancon Alabama D

Re: Install FEDORA problem (was Where to get zLINUX)

2012-11-28 Thread John McKown
Interesting. Now, how do I update that file given that I have downloaded the ISO. I guess I must copy the contents, remake the ISO, and burn my changed ISO. How ugly (IMO). On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Dan Horák wrote: > Tom Huegel píše v St 28. 11. 2012 v 07:53 -0800: > > I found the FEDOR

Re: Install FEDORA problem (was Where to get zLINUX)

2012-11-28 Thread David Boyes
I updated the bug mentioned with your symptoms. Also, I suspect this will fail on a z9 -- like most of the other Linuxen, I think they're building with the minimum architecture set to z10 or higher. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe /

Re: Install FEDORA problem (was Where to get zLINUX)

2012-11-28 Thread Tobias Doerkes
Hi Tom, it think there is no dialogue like SLES has. Here is a sample from my KVM tests. ro ramdisk_size=4 vnc   rd.dasd=0.0.eb92    ip=a.a.a.a::g.g.g.g:24:dns:eth0:none rd.znet=qeth,0.0.a000,0.0.a001,0.

Re: Install FEDORA problem (was Where to get zLINUX)

2012-11-28 Thread Dan Horák
Tom Huegel píše v St 28. 11. 2012 v 07:53 -0800: > I found the FEDORA files I needed at this website: > > http://redhat.download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/17/Fedora/s390x/os/images/ please take a look at generic.prm from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/s390x/17

Re: Install FEDORA problem (was Where to get zLINUX)

2012-11-28 Thread McKown, John
looks very similar to the problem that I've been having with Hercules-390. And similar to this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=830915 But no resolution was shown in that series of posts. To be blunt, I don't think FC17 is ready for prime time. Of course, that is part of the reason

Install FEDORA problem (was Where to get zLINUX)

2012-11-28 Thread Tom Huegel
I found the FEDORA files I needed at this website: http://redhat.download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/17/Fedora/s390x/os/images/ and downloaded: ascii get generic.prm get redhat.exec locsite fix 80 binary get kernel.img get initrd.img Then I ran the exec to IPL from the reader

Re: VNC for RHEL 6

2012-11-28 Thread Michael MacIsaac
> why don't you use yum? it will resolve all dependencies for you ... > You can setup yum to resolve all the dependency for you ... Setting up yum is documented in section 8.2.2 "Configure yum for online updates" in the "Virtualization Cookbook", again for completeness, at http://www.vm.ibm.com/dev

Re: Where to get zLINUX

2012-11-28 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Mark, > If you were looking for something like the Redbooks that Mike MacIsaac > has written, there aren't any. He's pretty much stuck with writing > about the two distribution providers that IBM has contracts with, > SUSE and Red Hat. Correct. But I remember someone with the initials MP helped

Re: Where to get zLINUX

2012-11-28 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Dan > The RHEL 6 Virtualization Cookbooks from IBM Redbooks can be also useful. Thanks for the plug (No, I don't get any royalties :)) I should point out that there is a *Redbook* for RHEL 6, but the latest *whitebook* (if you will), documents RHEL 6.2. That is at http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages

Re: VNC for RHEL 6

2012-11-28 Thread Mauro Souza
Welcome to the Dependency Hell... You can setup yum to resolve all the dependency for you, or you can adding packages and packages to the command line... Mauro http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521 Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God. 2012/11/28 SrinivasG

Re: VNC for RHEL 6

2012-11-28 Thread Dan Horák
SrinivasG píše v St 28. 11. 2012 v 10:43 +: > Thanks for all the replies .. > > I am getting a few dependencies : > > [root@deneb e75499]# rpm -ivh > tigervnc-server-1.0.90-0.17.20110314svn4359.el6.s390x.rpm why don't you use yum? it will resolve all dependencies for you Dan > warning:

Re: VNC for RHEL 6

2012-11-28 Thread SrinivasG
Thanks for all the replies .. I am getting a few dependencies : [root@deneb e75499]# rpm -ivh tigervnc-server-1.0.90-0.17.20110314svn4359.el6.s390x.rpm warning: tigervnc-server-1.0.90-0.17.20110314svn4359.el6.s390x.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID fd431d51: NOKEY error: Failed depend

SLES11 SP2 compile kernel modules from SDK

2012-11-28 Thread Tobias Doerkes
Hi list, i am still working on KVM on System z. I am now trying to get libvirt working. In SLES there is 0.9.6 included. So i tried to compile the current version 1.0.0. But running the compiled vanilla version from libvirt.org requires an additional kernel module xt_CHECKSUM. So i installed gc

Re: VNC for RHEL 6

2012-11-28 Thread Shane G
Mark Post (from Suse) spake thus: > RHEL ships with tigervnc (the client) and tigervnc-server. Is there some > problem with those? Who says they don't keep an eye on their contemporaries ... :0) Keep up the good work, one and all. Shane ...