Help with cpu stealing

2015-10-28 Thread Victor Echavarry Diaz
Hi people: We've had several incidents where one Linux server has high CPU utilization and impacts other servers from other applications. We were asked to prevent this from happening again so we are looking for the best practices to avoid CPU stealing or CPU waits on one Linux server caused by

Re: Help with cpu stealing

2015-10-28 Thread Robert J Brenneman
Are you running under z/VM or in native LPARs ? If you are running under z/VM what performance tools do you have available ? On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Victor Echavarry Diaz < vechava...@evertecinc.com> wrote: > Hi people: > > We've had several incidents where one Linux server has high CPU

Re: Setting up gcc as cross compiler for s390x

2015-10-28 Thread Harold Grovesteen
Yes, doing this yourself is a huge job. Using crosstool-ng helps a lot because it finds the software pieces for your configuration and knows how to build them. On Wed, 2015-10-28 at 08:41 +, Agblad Tore wrote: > I tried that once, starting to read the docs I found, probably the same >

Re: Setting up gcc as cross compiler for s390x

2015-10-28 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Rich. You are correct; I misread the note and thought of gcc390 when I got to the words "cross compiler". :-) Have a good one, too. DJ On 10/27/2015 08:57 PM, Rich Smrcina wrote: > Dave, > > That's for CMS. Florian appears to be looking for Linux. > > > On 10/27/2015 08:48 PM, Dave Jones

Re: Help with cpu stealing

2015-10-28 Thread Kurt Acker
Greetings Victor, Is it always the same Linux guest? That is somewhat important as thoughts maybe different its different random Linux guest or just some from the same workload grouping. Depending on how important the work a single guest maybe (will throttling it hurt SLA's associated with

Re: Help with cpu stealing

2015-10-28 Thread Veencamp, Jonathon D.
It is a somewhat crude method, but we used SHARE values on the directory entry for the guests. prod hosts would have SHARE weights in the thousands, and dev hosts would have SHARE weights in the tens or hundreds. Non-prod could pull hard as long as we weren't at capacity, but with any CPU

Re: Setting up gcc as cross compiler for s390x

2015-10-28 Thread Agblad Tore
I tried that once, starting to read the docs I found, probably the same people here had advised you to, pretty old but probably works. However, I found out it was a huge job getting all the source files in place with exactly the right versions. And after next upgrade you have to fix all the

Re: Help with cpu stealing

2015-10-28 Thread Barton Robinson
No, please don't do this. Having weights in the 1000's is what causes this problem, creates excess share, the looping user takes over. If you don't understand excess share, keep shares in the 100's, and use absolute shares where you know exactly what is intended. On 10/28/2015 7:13 AM,

Re: Help with cpu stealing

2015-10-28 Thread Barton Robinson
The best way is to first understand your share settings and avoid excess share.See Rob's paper on the topic here "http://www.velocitysoftware.com/relshare.HTML; Use zalert to detect problems, and have zoperator to give your operations and applications people early indication. i believe you

Re: Help with cpu stealing

2015-10-28 Thread Veencamp, Jonathon D.
Well I dunno, we ran with ZVM 95-100% CPU far more than I was comfortable with, and zlinux prod kept ticking, while non-prod got choked out above 95%. That sure seemed like mission accomplished at the time. But we had a rather standard Java workload across the board, and perhaps more a more

Re: Setting up gcc as cross compiler for s390x

2015-10-28 Thread Florian Bilek
Dear Tore, I do know that it is a huge job to get a correct environment, but I hope to automate a lot of things of the configuration and it should be possible to update it with new versions of the tools. Let's see how far I will make it. Florian Am 28.10.2015 09:43 schrieb "Agblad Tore"

Re: Help with cpu stealing

2015-10-28 Thread Victor Echavarry Diaz
Thanks everybody for your comments they're very useful for us. Regards, Victor Echavarry System Programmer, EVERTEC LLC -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 12:37 PM To:

Re: Help with cpu stealing

2015-10-28 Thread Barton Robinson
Thanks Jon. The only time this really matters is when you have looping or otherwise out of control users. A well behaved system is, just, well behaved If i could only get ibm to change their default shares from large relative shares for things like tcpip to absolute shares, a lot of this