Re: Why Linux Developers Should Reconsider IBM Mainframes - Linux.com

2019-10-14 Thread Tom Huegel
I used to have Ford Galaxy "XL500" I liked that name. The car not so much. On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 1:13 PM Alan Altmark wrote: > On Monday, 10/14/2019 at 04:57 GMT, Michael MacIsaac > > wrote: > > Shoulda been 's390z'. IIRC it was decided less than a year before the > > mainframe got rebranded

Re: Why Linux Developers Should Reconsider IBM Mainframes - Linux.com

2019-10-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 10/14/2019 at 04:57 GMT, Michael MacIsaac wrote: > Shoulda been 's390z'. IIRC it was decided less than a year before the > mainframe got rebranded to 'z'. Think of s390x and "s390 with extensions", a la 370/XA. The external marketing term "z/Architecture" was very late. Based on

Re: Why Linux Developers Should Reconsider IBM Mainframes - Linux.com

2019-10-14 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Shoulda been 's390z'. IIRC it was decided less than a year before the mainframe got rebranded to 'z'. -Mike On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 12:48 PM Rick Troth wrote: > On 10/14/19 8:03 AM, James Tison wrote: > > ... > > 390x (z/Architecture) was introduced almost immediately after s390 came > on

Re: Why Linux Developers Should Reconsider IBM Mainframes - Linux.com

2019-10-14 Thread Rick Troth
On 10/14/19 8:03 AM, James Tison wrote: > ... > 390x (z/Architecture) was introduced almost immediately after s390 came on > board, and it seems to be the ID "with legs". In modern terms, i390 means > nothing (unless someone would care to revive it), s390 means XA, s390x > still means

Re: Why Linux Developers Should Reconsider IBM Mainframes - Linux.com

2019-10-14 Thread Phil Smith III
Rob van der Heij wrote: >But it’s true that those terms are not used outside Linux on System Z. >Even though zArchitecture isn’t an appealing name. And we don’t hear much about >i390 anymore  *ahem* "z/Architecture". IBM considers it to be software, interestingly enough, so it gets the slash.

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2019-10-14 Thread Joe Monk
To further Alans point, this manual is loaded with references to "i390": http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg247748.pdf Joe On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 10:16 AM Alan Altmark wrote: > > The term “i390” has been socialized outside of IBM. It is the name given by > IBM to the

Re: Why Linux Developers Should Reconsider IBM Mainframes - Linux.com

2019-10-14 Thread Alan Altmark
The term “i390” has been socialized outside of IBM. It is the name given by IBM to the micro-architecture underneath S/390 and z/Architecture. It is the entire set of functions, and their associated instructions, needed to run the machine. Regards, Alan Altmark IBM > On Oct 14, 2019, at 8:05

Re: Why Linux Developers Should Reconsider IBM Mainframes - Linux.com

2019-10-14 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 14:05, James Tison wrote: > Now that I think about it, I don't think there was ever an i390 -- although > there was an i370, which died a long time ago (based on the very first port > True, I was thinking of i370. My apologies. I still remember when I made a typo when

Re: Why Linux Developers Should Reconsider IBM Mainframes - Linux.com

2019-10-14 Thread James Tison
Now that I think about it, I don't think there was ever an i390 -- although there was an i370, which died a long time ago (based on the very first port of what was then not yet z/Architecture, s390 took its place when IBM decided it'd participate in GNU tools development way back circa 2000/2001.