Re: Cost of ISV product

2002-09-24 Thread Jim Elliott
> I just got a pre-release of some IBM DB2 UDB pricing for Linux - the > ratios between (large) Windows or other Linux servers and 'Enterprise' > servers seem pretty sensible - fingers of one hand sort of numbers. Phil: The price of DB2 UDB V8.1 Enterprise Server Edition (ESE) is the same on all

Re: Cost of ISV product

2002-09-24 Thread Phil Payne
> > What kind of ninny takes a single number from a lab-queen test and uses it to build > > the pricing model for their business? > At least two of my previous employers. Of course one is no longer a > going concern, and the other is presently on the ropes. Of course > neither of them have ever

Re: Cost of ISV product

2002-09-24 Thread Jason W. Strnad
Scott Courtney wrote: > What kind of ninny takes a single number from a lab-queen test and uses it to build > the pricing model for their business? At least two of my previous employers. Of course one is no longer a going concern, and the other is presently on the ropes. Of course neither of t

Re: Cost of ISV product

2002-09-24 Thread Scott Courtney
On Tuesday 24 September 2002 02:42 pm, David Boyes wrote: > > If you think that your test is not *widely* used by IBM, IBM partners, > > vendors, developers, integrators, grocery baggers, etc. etc > > etc you need to tap into this place we call reality. [...] > > No, but most of the others have ha

Re: Cost of ISV product

2002-09-24 Thread David Boyes
> David, > If you think that your test is not *widely* used by IBM, IBM partners, > vendors, developers, integrators, grocery baggers, etc. etc > etc you need to > tap into this place we call reality. :) Too late to try to > reel that one > in, I'm afraid. No, but most of the others have had t

Re: Cost of ISV product

2002-09-24 Thread Kevin Gates
Boyes cc: Sent by: LinuxSubject: Re: Cost of ISV product on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ARIST.EDU> 09/23/2002

Re: Cost of ISV product

2002-09-23 Thread David Boyes
mber 23, 2002 10:51 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Cost of ISV product > [...] > I even had one vendor reference David Boyes's test of 40k servers on a > machine as justification of their pricing, boy are the hype > meters going > off! > > phil >

Re: Cost of ISV product

2002-09-23 Thread Phil Payne
> > So, who is the vendor that charges $640 on Intel and $91,000 on an IFL? > > This should be a business killer. > Check out the following URL for more complete information: > http://www.bmc.com/corporate/nr2002/091602_1.html History teaches us that incumbents often don't make the curve during

Re: Cost of ISV product

2002-09-23 Thread Dave Jones
Check out the following URL for more complete information: http://www.bmc.com/corporate/nr2002/091602_1.html DJ - Original Message - From: "Doug Fuerst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Cost of ISV

Re: Cost of ISV product

2002-09-23 Thread Doug Fuerst
2002 10:51 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Cost of ISV product > > >With the ongoing activity in the Linux/390 or Linux/Z (linz) arena I >have come across an interesting problem. It appears that many of the >"NEW" linz ISVs have decided to hit the big ti

Re: Cost of ISV product

2002-09-23 Thread Post, Mark K
, 2002 10:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cost of ISV product With the ongoing activity in the Linux/390 or Linux/Z (linz) arena I have come across an interesting problem. It appears that many of the "NEW" linz ISVs have decided to hit the big time when pricing their software. The

Re: Cost of ISV product

2002-09-23 Thread McKown, John
amp; Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 > -Original Message- > From: Phil Tully [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 9:51 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Cost of ISV product > > > With the ongoing activity in the Linux/390 or Linux/Z (linz)

Cost of ISV product

2002-09-23 Thread Phil Tully
With the ongoing activity in the Linux/390 or Linux/Z (linz) arena I have come across an interesting problem. It appears that many of the "NEW" linz ISVs have decided to hit the big time when pricing their software. These vendors are looking at using the proof-of-concept numbers being presen