Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-19 Thread Massimiliano Belardi
Try also Virtualization Engine!!! See you Max - Original Message - From: Little, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:56 PM Subject: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries I was just asked what software we needed for our z/VM

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-19 Thread Tom Shilson
z/VM is world's best virtualization engine! IMHO, of course. A good thing to have would be a tool to take full disk backups of the virtual machines. We were using VM: Backup to backup our CMS disks and have added the Lin-z systems to its plate. It is a convenient restore method for when I do

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-19 Thread Alan Altmark
On Saturday, 11/19/2005 at 08:41 CST, Tom Shilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: z/VM is world's best virtualization engine! IMHO, of course. Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 11/19/2005 05:06:46 AM: Try also Virtualization Engine!!! See you Max Max is, I believe, referring

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 11/17/2005 at 12:08 EST, Thomas David Rivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you get RACF, you'll need HLASM (or, you can use the DIGNUS replacement there for a lot less money...) This is how rumors get started. :-) RACF requires HLASM only if you want to customize the way CP and

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-18 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Hi Mark, RACF defines various tables in assembly language that need to be assembled and linked in. HLASM is listed as a prerequisite for RACF in the RACF specifications. However, HLASM has become a for-charge product in VM (it used to be free there too.) Several sites are now using our

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-18 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Thanks Alan! I have to admit to being a little ignorant on the details. I was just reporting what folks at IBM and our customers had told us... (hence my somewhat vague answer to Mark's question :-) ) - Dave Rivers - On Thursday, 11/17/2005 at 12:08 EST, Thomas David Rivers

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-18 Thread Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
However, HLASM has become a for-charge product in VM (it used to be free there too.) Dave: While HLASM used to be pre-installed with VM, it was never no-charge. You needed a license to enable it. It is shipped at no-charge (i.e. bundled) in z/OS however. Jim

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-18 Thread Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DFSMS/VM David: DFSMS/VM is not a product but a function included in the z/VM base. Jim -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-18 Thread David Boyes
DFSMS/VM DFSMS/VM is not a product but a function included in the z/VM base. Yes, but for some releases you had to request it. It was preloaded by default on z/VM 4.4, but it was not shipped on the z/VM 5.1 product tape unless it was requested. It has been restored (AFAIK) in the z/VM 5.2

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-18 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
DFSMS/VM DFSMS/VM is not a product but a function included in the z/VM base. Yes, but for some releases you had to request it. It was preloaded by default on z/VM 4.4, but it was not shipped on the z/VM 5.1 product tape unless it was requested. It has been restored (AFAIK) in the z/VM 5.2

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 11/18/2005 at 12:46 EST, Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DFSMS/VM David: DFSMS/VM is not a product but a function included in the z/VM base. Actually, it must be installed from the SDO. DFSMS/VM was removed from the base system awhile ago. It is still

IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-17 Thread Little, Chris
I was just asked what software we needed for our z/VM and Linux environments. Here is the gotcha -- IBM only. We only use z/VM to host our Linux guests and it will remain that way in the forseeable future. We have TSM, Dirmaint, and Performance Toolkit. Anything else we should think about that

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-17 Thread David Boyes
I was just asked what software we needed for our z/VM and Linux environments. Here is the gotcha -- IBM only. We only use z/VM to host our Linux guests and it will remain that way in the forseeable future. We have TSM, Dirmaint, and Performance Toolkit. Anything else we should think about

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-17 Thread David Kreuter
For securing logons, links, guest lans, rdrs: RACF If you have multiple LPARs consider RSCS for file and data transfer Good luck - David -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Little, Chris Sent: Thu 11/17/2005 10:56 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: IBM software

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-17 Thread Little, Chris
Does z/VM have a facility to accept job scheduling from either JES or Tivoli Workload Scheduler? -Original Message- From: David Boyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:17 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-17 Thread Thomas David Rivers
If you get RACF, you'll need HLASM (or, you can use the DIGNUS replacement there for a lot less money...) - Dave Rivers - For securing logons, links, guest lans, rdrs: RACF If you have multiple LPARs consider RSCS for file and data transfer Good luck - David -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-17 Thread David Boyes
Does z/VM have a facility to accept job scheduling from either JES or Tivoli Workload Scheduler? The RSCS license will allow you to send files and messages to CMSBATCH and interact with PROP to do commands, but there is no direct support for TWS. The IBM Batch Facility for CMS might also be

Re: IBM software for z/VM and/or Linux on zSeries

2005-11-17 Thread Post, Mark K
I'm curious. Why does RACF require that you have HLASM (or your replacement)? Note that I've never worked on an MVS system that didn't have an assembler, so I've never paid much attention to what needed it or not. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL