Re: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD

2006-07-31 Thread Bill Bitner
Dedicated DASD are not eligible for VM's minidisk cache. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlv

Re: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD

2006-07-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 7/28/06, J Leslie Turriff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I believe that this is also true of minidisks that use the DEVNO rdev format. DEVNO is the dedicate for when you know the device address and possibly don't have a (unique) volser for the device. Rob --

Re: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD

2006-07-29 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 07/28/2006 at 11:28 AST, Kenneth Libutti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there is any benefit to using dedicated DASD vs minidisk with 5.2 on a z/890 > ( No IOASSIST available)? With dedicated dasd, CCW translation is marginally faster. But if memory serves, you will lose minidisk cach

Re: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD

2006-07-28 Thread J Leslie Turriff
I believe that this is also true of minidisks that use the DEVNO rdev format. J. Leslie Turriff VM Systems Programmer Central Missouri State University Room 400 Ward Edwards Building Warrensburg MO 64093 660-543-4285 660-580-0523 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/28/06 12:11 pm >>> Fo

Re: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD

2006-07-28 Thread Neale Ferguson
For dedicated volumes z/VM won't have to do relocation of seek/search/define extent/locate extent cylinder values. Mind you this is not exactly a taxing task given the typical channel program. >> Is there is any benefit to using dedicated DASD vs minidisk with 5.2 >> on a z/890 ( No IOASSIST avail

Re: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD

2006-07-28 Thread David Boyes
> Is there is any benefit to using dedicated DASD vs minidisk with 5.2 on a > z/890 ( No IOASSIST available)? No, no more than on the z9, really. It really doesn't make that much difference any more. -- db -- For LINUX-390 subs

Re: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD

2006-07-28 Thread Kenneth Libutti
Is there is any benefit to using dedicated DASD vs minidisk with 5.2 on a z/890 ( No IOASSIST available)? Ken Libutti CNE, CNI, SCSA, RHCT Asst. Director of Systems Services Broward Community College 225 E. Las Olas Blvd. 31/330 Ft. Lauderdale, Fl 33301 Phone: 954-201-7361 Fax: 954-201-7053 [EMA

Re: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD

2006-07-27 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 07/27/2006 at 02:46 AST, David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >Then again, if you have a z9, you probably don't much care. 8-) > > what about performance and CPU overheads (zVM) in processing I/O's, is > > it an issue? > > It (the difference between dedicated and minidisk I/O)

Re: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD

2006-07-27 Thread David Boyes
> > >Then again, if you have a z9, you probably don't much care. 8-) > what about performance and CPU overheads (zVM) in processing I/O's, is > it an issue? It (the difference between dedicated and minidisk I/O) is measurable, but the impact is smaller on the z9 systems due to the increased proces

Re: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD

2006-07-27 Thread Yu Safin
On 7/26/06, Marcy Cortes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >Negatives: >> >Lose hardware IOASSIST feature for non-dedicated volumes. Not as >> >important as it used to be, but still noticeable. >> That's gone anyway on a z9, right? >Not sure, but I think so. Most of the other assorted hardware assis

Re: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD

2006-07-26 Thread Marcy Cortes
>> >Negatives: >> >Lose hardware IOASSIST feature for non-dedicated volumes. Not as >> >important as it used to be, but still noticeable. >> That's gone anyway on a z9, right? >Not sure, but I think so. Most of the other assorted hardware assists >are gone on the z9, so it wouldn't surprise me.

Re: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD

2006-07-26 Thread David Boyes
> >Negatives: > >Lose hardware IOASSIST feature for non-dedicated volumes. Not as > >important as it used to be, but still noticeable. > That's gone anyway on a z9, right? > Marcy Cortes Not sure, but I think so. Most of the other assorted hardware assists are gone on the z9, so it wouldn't surpri

Re: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD

2006-07-26 Thread Marcy Cortes
>Negatives: >Lose hardware IOASSIST feature for non-dedicated volumes. Not as >important as it used to be, but still noticeable. That's gone anyway on a z9, right? Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorize

Re: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD

2006-07-26 Thread Ryan Stewart
26, 2006 2:26 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD > Wondering if anyone can tell me whether or not there is an advantage or > a reason or a disadvantage to using MDISKs for Linux servers if I intend > to turn off the MDC, verses using dedicated disks. I

Re: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD

2006-07-26 Thread David Boyes
> Wondering if anyone can tell me whether or not there is an advantage or > a reason or a disadvantage to using MDISKs for Linux servers if I intend > to turn off the MDC, verses using dedicated disks. I intend to use the > entire disks and not split them up. Some things that come to my mind imme

Re: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD

2006-07-26 Thread Ryan Stewart
Romanowski, John (OFT) Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:31 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD Not to throw you a curve but you could sort of do both at the same time: In the guest's USER DIRECT definition, instead of DEDICATE vdev rdev Which would dedicat

Re: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD

2006-07-26 Thread Romanowski, John (OFT)
Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Stewart Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:08 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD Hi all, Wondering if anyone can tell me whether or not there is an advantage or a reason or a disadvantage to using MDISKs for Linux servers

MDISK vs DEDICATED DASD

2006-07-26 Thread Ryan Stewart
Hi all, Wondering if anyone can tell me whether or not there is an advantage or a reason or a disadvantage to using MDISKs for Linux servers if I intend to turn off the MDC, verses using dedicated disks. I intend to use the entire disks and not split them up. Thanks in advance. Ryan Stewart Sys