Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-08 Thread Phil Payne
> Microsoft Corp chief executive, Steve Ballmer warned his staff in an e-mail > on Thursday that cheap Linux-based software .. And therein lies the spin. By focussing on "cheap", Ballmer seeks to deflect attention from more important aspects of open software, such as peer review and development

Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-08 Thread Rod Furey
To be honest, most of the Windows people that I've had to deal with don't know anything about alternatives and quite frankly, they wouldn't last two minutes on a more complex system. Sigh... I despair, really, I do... > The margin is narrowing. I work with a lot of sharp Windows folks that are star

Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-06 Thread Alan Cox
On Gwe, 2003-06-06 at 22:25, McKown, John wrote: > I agree. One of our LAN people made a router change which interrupted about > 200 CICS users (TCP connected). They entered a problem ticket on it. His > question: "What's the big deal? It was less than a minute and they're all > back working now."

Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-06 Thread Steven A. Adams
On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 17:12, John Summerfield wrote: > On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 07:02, you wrote: > > John, It really wasn't intended to be quite so serious. But since you > > mention it, I am not convinced that they do understand. I'm sure that we > > have all seen the interviews with x-MS'ers that spea

Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-06 Thread John Summerfield
On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 07:02, you wrote: > John, It really wasn't intended to be quite so serious. But since you > mention it, I am not convinced that they do understand. I'm sure that we > have all seen the interviews with x-MS'ers that speak to the fact that > they may well be this disconnected. Of c

Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-06 Thread John Summerfield
On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 05:19, you wrote: > That's not the point. It's the sheer blindness of people where > Windows is concerned that's the problem - quite frankly, I don't think I dropped in to see some people I worked with in a bank. There, I was writing PL/1 code, using an IBM PC running Windows 20

Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-06 Thread Steven A. Adams
On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 15:43, John Summerfield wrote: > On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 04:17, you wrote: > > Someone should explain to Mr. Balmer that this "weakness" is kicking his > > butt. Especially considering that with all of the money that Microsoft > > has to invest they still can't seem to produce a ma

Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-06 Thread John Summerfield
On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 04:17, you wrote: > Someone should explain to Mr. Balmer that this "weakness" is kicking his > butt. Especially considering that with all of the money that Microsoft > has to invest they still can't seem to produce a manageable, or secure, > product. Whew, talk about sleeping thr

Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-06 Thread Steven A. Adams
On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 14:19, Rod Furey wrote: > >Does that mean that folks in this group are just an illusion? > > Of course it does - didn't you know that all the answers here are > generated automatically by a pipe written by Rob, fed over a network > link from Alan via an interface written by Ne

Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-06 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Just Microslop talking in terms they are familar withthe illusion of support. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/06 4:19 PM >>> >Does that mean that folks in this group are just an illusion?

Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-06 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: Rod Furey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 4:19 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat > > > > To be honest, most of the Windows people that I've had to > de

Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-06 Thread Rod Furey
Does that mean that folks in this group are just an illusion? Of course it does - didn't you know that all the answers here are generated automatically by a pipe written by Rob, fed over a network link from Alan via an interface written by Neil? Whew, talk about sleeping through the alarm clock. I

Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-06 Thread Steven A. Adams
inux wrote: > > -- > > From: KEETON Dave B > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:43:46 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat > > Auto forwarded by a Rule > > > Does that mean that folks in this group

Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-06 Thread John Summerfield
On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 01:43, you wrote: > > -- > > From: KEETON Dave B > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:43:46 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat > > Auto forwarded by a Rule > > Does t

Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-06 Thread Dave . B . KEETON
ubject: Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat The quote that struck me the most was this: "IBM's endorsement of Linux has added credibility and an illusion of support and accountability," Ballmer said. My first reaction was "_illusion_ of support and accountability? That sounds more

Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-06 Thread Post, Mark K
st -Original Message- From: Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Microsoft: Linux is a threat Microsoft Corp chief executive, Steve Ballmer warned his staff in an e-mail on Thursday that cheap

Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-06 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
ly To: Linux on 390 Port > Sent: Friday, June 6, 2003 8:38 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat > > On Gwe, 2003-06-06 at 16:36, Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission > wrote: > > Microsoft Corp chief executive, Steve B

Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-06 Thread Fargusson.Alan
003 8:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat On Gwe, 2003-06-06 at 16:36, Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission wrote: > Microsoft Corp chief executive, Steve Ballmer warned his staff in an e-mail > on Thursday that cheap Linux-based software is a growing th

Re: Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-06 Thread Alan Cox
On Gwe, 2003-06-06 at 16:36, Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission wrote: > Microsoft Corp chief executive, Steve Ballmer warned his staff in an e-mail > on Thursday that cheap Linux-based software is a growing threat to the > software titan. > http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_273556,0003.ht

Microsoft: Linux is a threat

2003-06-06 Thread Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission
Microsoft Corp chief executive, Steve Ballmer warned his staff in an e-mail on Thursday that cheap Linux-based software is a growing threat to the software titan. http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_273556,0003.htm Peter Webb Technical Support Analyst Toronto Transit Commission IMPORTANT: Thi