Re: OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread John Summerfield
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 02:52, you wrote: > Most authoring tools are bad, a lot of them don't deal > with semantic markup but pretend the web is a glorified > word processor. However you should also be wary of the > trade offs. Easy to use tools let more people create > content. In addition content man

Re: OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread PAUL WILLIAMSON
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/03 03:30PM >>> >One thing, though. > >Most people here referred to authoring web pages, not web sites. emacs, >vim and not-tab-pro may be great editors, but they are still meant for >editing single HTML pages. > >Even if your "site" is only a couple of pages, adding some

Re: OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 20:30, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Of the tools mentioned here, mozilla, word and such create html pages. > FrontPage and DreamWeaver create "sites". I'm not sure about Quanta. Mostly about sites. Both the Red Hat CCM/CMS and things like Typo3 (www.typo3.org) are open source syste

Re: OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread Lucius, Leland
> > See http://villa.lakes.com/mnimages for an example. (Blatant > self plug intended) > I love the turkey. It's like he's sayin', "You're gonna do WHAT with that ax?" (Actually, I really like the moose...) Leland

Re: OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Rick Troth wrote: > I have to say this, though some won't like hearing it: > > + compose your HTML by hand > + start with static content (no scripts at first) > + construct your scripts (active content) by hand > > Machine-generated HTML is a horrib

Re: OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread Nix, Robert P.
ory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." > -Original Message- > From: Post, Mark K [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 12:50 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT- Website creation Soft

Re: OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread Phil Payne
> Well, I'm glad you brought it up Rick. I now know that I'm not alone. The > best HTML package around is Notepad (or your text editor of choice). The > generators just make crap. I'd like to gently disagree. Editors like NoteTab Pro have the usability and "closeness to the metal" that Notepa

Re: OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread Post, Mark K
orrible HTML can be generated with tools, or by hand. Good HTML is the same way. Like most things, it's not the tool, but how it's used. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Alan Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subje

Re: OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread Lucius, Leland
> > HTML takes a day to think you learned. When your pages pass the > validator.w3.org site and the bobby accessibility test set then maybe > you have learned. > Completely unrelated to the topic at hand, but I just wanted to pipe in here and thank you for mentioning the accessibility tests. The c

Re: OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 17:35, Phil Payne wrote: > I have to say this, though some won't like hearing it: > > > > + compose your HTML by hand > > + start with static content (no scripts at first) > > + construct your scripts (active content) by hand > > > > Machine-gener

Re: OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread Rich Smrcina
Well, I'm glad you brought it up Rick. I now know that I'm not alone. The best HTML package around is Notepad (or your text editor of choice). The generators just make crap. Coding HTML yourself is a great learning tool, too! On Thursday 09 January 2003 11:21 am, you wrote: > I have to say thi

Re: OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread Phil Payne
I have to say this, though some won't like hearing it: > > + compose your HTML by hand > + start with static content (no scripts at first) > + construct your scripts (active content) by hand > > Machine-generated HTML is a horrible mess > and will likely lead to conten

Re: OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread Rick Troth
I have to say this, though some won't like hearing it: + compose your HTML by hand + start with static content (no scripts at first) + construct your scripts (active content) by hand Machine-generated HTML is a horrible mess and will likely lead to content maintenance

Re: RE : OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 12:20, Herve Bonvin wrote: > I don't know FrontPage but Mozilla is a nice tool to edit web page. Could be used on >Windows too ... Depends how big you are thinking emacs has an html mode Mozilla has web page composing KDE has quanta There are also c

Re: OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread Ceruti, Gerard G
Thanks Phil , Colin , Quanta is it. Regards Gerard -Original Message- From: Colin Walls [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 09 January 2003 02:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT- Website creation Software > Slightly off topic , what software is the for website > creation under

Re: OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread José Manuel Canelas
Colin Walls wrote: > Slightly off topic , what software is the for website >creation under Linux (> ala FrontPage) ?. I can't think of anything as bad as FrontPage. Personally I use Xemacs with the psgml extension. If you want to go for something that is more GUI like, then try Quanta. Worse

Re: OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread Colin Walls
> Slightly off topic , what software is the for website > creation under Linux (> ala FrontPage) ?. I can't think of anything as bad as FrontPage. Personally I use Xemacs with the psgml extension. If you want to go for something that is more GUI like, then try Quanta. Internet communications are

Re: OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread Phil Payne
> Slightly off topic , what software is the for website creation under Linux ( > ala FrontPage) ?. I do hope - and reasonably expect - that there's nothing as bad as FrontPage available for Linux. -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.com +44 7785 302 803 +49 173 6242039

RE : OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread Herve Bonvin
I don't know FrontPage but Mozilla is a nice tool to edit web page. Could be used on Windows too ... Regards, Herve -Original Message- From: Ceruti, Gerard G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT- Website cre

OT- Website creation Software

2003-01-09 Thread Ceruti, Gerard G
Hi People Slightly off topic , what software is the for website creation under Linux ( ala FrontPage) ?. Thanks Gerard __ Disclaimer and confidentiality note Everything in this e-mail and any attachments relating to the official business of Standard