Re: The Mainframe vs. the Server Farm: A Comparison

2017-05-26 Thread Timothy Sipples
Willemina Konynenberg wrote: >But according to the datasheets, upgrading, say, an H06 to an H13 >"requires planned down time" Well, keep in mind there's "always" a second machine *somewhere*, in another data center. For disaster recovery purposes, at least. That second machine can also be used

Re: The Mainframe vs. the Server Farm: A Comparison

2017-05-25 Thread Mike Walter
e company customers/clients after repeated budget cuts. Mike Walter -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Willemina Konynenberg Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:51 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: The Mainframe vs. the Server Fa

Re: The Mainframe vs. the Server Farm: A Comparison

2017-05-25 Thread Willemina Konynenberg
but it’s a cost people don't account for that I've seen. > > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom > Huegel > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:09 AM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: [LINUX-39

Re: The Mainframe vs. the Server Farm: A Comparison

2017-05-25 Thread Marcy Cortes
--Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Huegel Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:09 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] The Mainframe vs. the Server Farm: A Comparison Don't forget to consider the mainframe has

Re: The Mainframe vs. the Server Farm: A Comparison

2017-05-25 Thread Tom Huegel
Don't forget to consider the mainframe has a much smaller enironmental footprint that say 500 COTS. The cost savings in power comsumption, air conditioning, and floor space can be huge. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Willemina Konynenberg wrote: > But according to the datasheets, upgrading, s

Re: The Mainframe vs. the Server Farm: A Comparison

2017-05-25 Thread Willemina Konynenberg
But according to the datasheets, upgrading, say, an H06 to an H13 "requires planned down time", so if you started small and then want to grow, the only feasible (non-down-time) upgrade path is to buy a 2nd mainframe, which, as you point out "won't scale painlessly". With a COTS based system, you

Re: The Mainframe vs. the Server Farm: A Comparison

2017-05-25 Thread John Campbell
As I recall from Appendix A of the "Linux for S/390" redbook, the S/390 (and, likely, zSeries) is designed to be maintainable WHILE WORKING. The multi-dimensional ECC memory allows a memory card to be replaced WHILE the system is running. Likewise, power supplies the CPs. I have to agree that th

Re: The Mainframe vs. the Server Farm: A Comparison

2017-05-25 Thread Philipp Kern
On 24.05.2017 00:03, John Campbell wrote: > Cool... > > Though the real key is that the mainframe is designed for something at or > beyond five 9s (99.999%) uptime. > > [HUMOR] > Heard from a Tandem guy: "Your application, as critical as it is, is on a > nine 5s (55.555%) platform." > [/HUMO

Re: The Mainframe vs. the Server Farm: A Comparison

2017-05-23 Thread Waite, Dick (External)
@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: The Mainframe vs. the Server Farm: A Comparison An interesting article from our friends at SUSE https://dzone.com/articles/the-mainframe-versus-the-server-farm-a-comparison Enjoy. DJ -- ITC-email-sig *David Jones **|**Managing Director for zSystems Services **|**z/VM

Re: The Mainframe vs. the Server Farm: A Comparison

2017-05-23 Thread John Campbell
Cool... Though the real key is that the mainframe is designed for something at or beyond five 9s (99.999%) uptime. [HUMOR] Heard from a Tandem guy: "Your application, as critical as it is, is on a nine 5s (55.555%) platform." [/HUMOR] While other server farms (and I've worked with the USF a

The Mainframe vs. the Server Farm: A Comparison

2017-05-23 Thread Dave Jones
An interesting article from our friends at SUSE https://dzone.com/articles/the-mainframe-versus-the-server-farm-a-comparison Enjoy. DJ -- ITC-email-sig *David Jones **|**Managing Director for zSystems Services **|**z/VM, Linux, and Cloud 703.237.7370 (Office) **|**281.578.7544 (Cell)* *Info