Re: 808x machines and Y2K?

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
All MS-DOS machines I've ever used ask for the date and time upon boot. This includes all 808x machines I've ever used. My experience has been that any MS-DOS machine with no autoexec.bat will prompt you for the time and date, of course any machine without a battery powered clock will simply

Re: 808x machines and Y2K?

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
From my memories of a Toshiba 1500 (a desktop Toshiba...erk), a basic XT clone, and a real IBM PC original release - and some early reviews of the PC-AT - the only "real-time clock" a PC had was in the form of an add-on card...either built-in in the case of things like Amstrads or a real card in

Re: ELKS: Application Code, Data, Heap and Stack Size??

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
Greg Haerr writes: : The fixed size stack would probably be best placed just above the bss with : the heap above that. This would not require any mods to the linker or : binary format, just changes to the kernel. : What exactly is being gained by making this modification? The

Re: ELKS: Application Code, Data, Heap and Stack Size??

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
Greg Haerr writes: : The function stack_check() in arch/i86/kernel/process.c checks to see : whether the stack pointer is less then the brk pointer, and segfaults if it : is. : stack_check() is used by the kernel to see if the user process has run out of space, only during a

Re: ELKS: Application Code, Data, Heap and Stack Size??

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
Chad Page writes: There is (was?) some stack checking done at the system call level. However, it's not 100% foolproof - if the program gets sp above the low-water mark after dipping into bss before the next system call it won't be detected. Now, if you had a magic # right

Re: Microwin Problem

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
Joseph Dunn writes: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_0020_01BEBE76.2F64B4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I just downloaded the latest ver. of Dev86 and Microwin. I built Dev86,

Re: Micro-Win Compiling Problems (Or the lack of ;-)

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Alistair Riddoch wrote: Luke writes: On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Greg Haerr wrote: : : Now it runs on ELKS, the screen flickers and it says Cannot open graphics. : This is on a 386 and a pentium. You must be using ELKS version 0.77. Otherwise

Re: 808x machines and Y2K?

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Jonathan Hall wrote: All MS-DOS machines I've ever used ask for the date and time upon boot. This includes all 808x machines I've ever used. MS-DOS's default action when there is no config.sys or autoexec.bat is to prompt for date and time. So, yes... they do have

RE: ELKS: Application Code, Data, Heap and Stack Size??

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
: What exactly is being gained by making this modification? The stack : is fixed size in both cases. Is it just that we currently pre-reserve the maximum : combined heap/stack now, and in the future wouldn't require the heap size : to be known? : : : Thats it exactly. Currently even

RE: ELKS: Application Code, Data, Heap and Stack Size??

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
: So form of stack check would be nice, every function call seems a little to : much for a lowly 8086. How about on task switch or even interrupt (or is : this too late)? If the chosen size for the stack is too small, it can be : cured by modifying the binary rather than a full recompile. : :

Re: ELKS: Application Code, Data, Heap and Stack Size??

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
Greg Haerr writes: :What exactly is being gained by making this modification? The stack : is fixed size in both cases. Is it just that we currently pre-reserve the maximum : combined heap/stack now, and in the future wouldn't require the heap size : to be known? : : :

Re: Interesting Idea

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
Joseph Dunn writes: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_000A_01BEBF0C.5A754460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have a interesting problem to solve. I'm going on a trip in a few =

Re: ELKS: Application Code, Data, Heap and Stack Size??

1999-06-25 Thread Anonymous
Greg Haerr writes: : So form of stack check would be nice, every function call seems a little to : much for a lowly 8086. How about on task switch or even interrupt (or is : this too late)? If the chosen size for the stack is too small, it can be : cured by modifying the binary rather

RE: ELKS: Application Code, Data, Heap and Stack Size??

1999-06-25 Thread Greg Haerr
On Friday, June 25, 1999 2:12 PM, Alistair Riddoch [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: : Greg Haerr writes: : : : : So form of stack check would be nice, every function call seems a little to : : much for a lowly 8086. How about on task switch or even interrupt (or is : : this too late)? If