On Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 03:19:11PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> Anyway, if the input layer is really not the place for "passive key
> presses", then my decision to not issue input events for such stuff is the
> correct one.
That wasn't my interpretation of what Dmitry said - it's n
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 11:46:26AM -0400, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > How do you know that this is a "passive keypress"? Can you put another
> > (better) soundcard in a docking station? Woudl the firmware still
> > control that card (doubtful)? Do we wan
On Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 11:46:26AM -0400, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> How do you know that this is a "passive keypress"? Can you put another
> (better) soundcard in a docking station? Woudl the firmware still
> control that card (doubtful)? Do we want the same keys to control that
> card's volume?
T
On 7/15/07, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 05:59:34PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > *HAL* does. HAL is *not* all there is to userspace. The input layer is not
> > an interface between t
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 06:54:53PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > On Sun, 15 Jul 2007, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > > Hal is the only piece of userspace that knows how to speak to more than
> > > one type of backlight in any useful way, wh
On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 06:54:53PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > Hal is the only piece of userspace that knows how to speak to more than
> > one type of backlight in any useful way, which makes it the de-facto
> > reference for how use
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 05:59:34PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > *HAL* does. HAL is *not* all there is to userspace. The input layer is not
> > an interface between the kernel and HAL, it is an interface between kernel
> > and userspac
On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 05:59:34PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> *HAL* does. HAL is *not* all there is to userspace. The input layer is not
> an interface between the kernel and HAL, it is an interface between kernel
> and userspace.
Hal is the only piece of userspace that knows h
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 05:03:38PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > I do not consider screwing up the mixer handling a harmless result.
>
> We've shipped in this configuration for over a year. Total number of
> bugs filed? None. It's not
On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 05:03:38PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> I do not consider screwing up the mixer handling a harmless result.
We've shipped in this configuration for over a year. Total number of
bugs filed? None. It's not ideal, but it's simply not true that it
results in a
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > No. This is handled in firmware in IBM thinkpads, and userspace only screws
> > it up. I am tired of watching people get this routed to the AC97 mixer by
> > default. That is a fringe configuration that only makes sense when using a
> > dock, and w
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