Re: Why is it so hard to (get) help on ACPI?

2007-05-17 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 12:16:30AM +0200, Johannes Engel wrote: > Hm, I do not totally agree. Since in some cases you know that a BIOS > update caused the trouble it seems to be likely in my eyes that these > problems could be fixed by DSDT changes. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The DSDT is far

Re: Why is it so hard to (get) help on ACPI?

2007-05-17 Thread Matija Šuklje
Dne petek 18 maj 2007 00:16 je Johannes Engel napisal(a): > Hm, I do not totally agree. Since in some cases you know that a BIOS > update caused the trouble it seems to be likely in my eyes that these > problems could be fixed by DSDT changes. Please correct me if I'm wrong. No, no ...the problems

Re: Why is it so hard to (get) help on ACPI?

2007-05-17 Thread Johannes Engel
Matthew Garrett schrieb: > The kernel's job is to make hardware work. If the hardware works under > another OS, then it failing to work in Linux is a bug in Linux. So, yes, > the correct place to fix this sort of thing is in the kernel rather than > your DSDT. > > However, please note that the D

Re: Why is it so hard to (get) help on ACPI?

2007-05-17 Thread Matija Šuklje
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Re: Why is it so hard to (get) help on ACPI?

2007-05-17 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 10:10:11PM +0200, Matija Šuklje wrote: > Dne četrtek 17 maj 2007 21:56 ste napisali: > > acpi.sf.net was near dead for several years already, since the time > > then there was a decision that if something works under _other_ OS, > > it should work under Linux too. This made

Re: Why is it so hard to (get) help on ACPI?

2007-05-17 Thread Matija Šuklje
Dne četrtek 17 maj 2007 21:56 ste napisali: > mail lists do not allow for size of attachment greater than 64k. Makes sense, it would be nice if Majordomo would notify one of such limitations though. > bugzilla is the place to put such things. Kernel bugzilla? > acpi.sf.net was near dead for se

Re: Why is it so hard to (get) help on ACPI?

2007-05-17 Thread Len Brown
> I *think* I need it because I didn't find any better solution. On my Acer > Aspire 5022 for some time I've been getting APIC errors (most commonly "40 > (40)") APIC errors have nothing to do with ACPI. (other than the fact that on lots of systems, ACPI is required if you want to configure the A

Re: Why is it so hard to (get) help on ACPI?

2007-05-17 Thread Matija Šuklje
Dne četrtek 17 maj 2007 20:58 ste napisali: > First of all, why do you want/need to change your DSDT? > Second, patching DSDT is meant to be a last resort if any other > method, like finding error in our implementation of ACPI or drivers. Thank you for the reply. I *think* I need it because I did

Re: Why is it so hard to (get) help on ACPI?

2007-05-17 Thread Matija Šuklje
Dne četrtek 17 maj 2007 20:58 ste napisali: > First of all, why do you want/need to change your DSDT? > Second, patching DSDT is meant to be a last resort if any other > method, like finding error in our implementation of ACPI or drivers. Thank you for the reply. I *think* I need it because I did

Re: Why is it so hard to (get) help on ACPI?

2007-05-17 Thread Norbert Preining
On Don, 17 Mai 2007, Alexey Starikovskiy wrote: > First of all, why do you want/need to change your DSDT? > Second, patching DSDT is meant to be a last resort if any other > method, like finding error in our implementation of ACPI or drivers. Well, of course, but frustration level is sometimes get

Re: Why is it so hard to (get) help on ACPI?

2007-05-17 Thread Alexey Starikovskiy
Hi, First of all, why do you want/need to change your DSDT? Second, patching DSDT is meant to be a last resort if any other method, like finding error in our implementation of ACPI or drivers. So "better" DSDT patch is patch of zero length -- don't touch it, fix ACPI or drivers. Regards, Alex.

Why is it so hard to (get) help on ACPI?

2007-05-17 Thread Matija Šuklje
Hi, what do I have to do to upload my DSDT patch and find help on how to make it better? I've already tried registering on http://acpi.sourceforge.net/dsdt/ , but my account just doesn't show up on the list. I've already sent my DSDT patch to this mailing list (after joining it, of course) wit