Dennis Schulmeister schrieb:
Hi,
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 15:08 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 18:00 -0400, drew Roberts wrote:
I don't think I saw any assertion in the thread as to the benefits of
enabling
RT by default for all desktop users? (I may
Stefano D'Angelo schrieb:
2009/6/18 Stefano D'Angelo zanga.m...@gmail.com:
2009/6/18 Luis Garrido luisgarr...@users.sourceforge.net
This has been debated already. Several times. For instance, please
follow this (long) thread:
Stefan Kost wrote:
I like the idea of the function. A nice feature of buzzmachine plugins
is that plugins can have a describe_value() function. It returns a port
value as a string. This is very flexible as plugins can include the unit
values or other characters in the string (e.g. 90°, 4½ or
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:49:40AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Just downgrade to FC5 or so. Or pick a different distro that is
suited more to your needs.
Actually F8 would be enough. ConsoleKit was a service there and I
just disabled it without any ill effect.
In F10 that choice has been
Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Mon, 22.06.09 23:46, Jörn Nettingsmeier (netti...@folkwang-hochschule.de)
wrote:
What is so difficult to understand that rtkit is not intended to be a
solution for hardcore rt users?
rtkit is not for you!
Let me repeat this:
RTKIT IS NOT FOR YOU!
this is
On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 20:13 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
If you don't do RT development or doing RT development only for
embedded cases, or if you are a [/*intended explicitives deleted*/]
then it doesn't mean anything for you.
However, if you are a desktop developer interested to get
On 06/22/2009 04:20 PM, Chris Cannam wrote:
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Paul Davisp...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote:
Finally, as Chris said -
many of us are writing apps that target multiple platforms
Well, my comment (from the point of view of applications rather than
library
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 00:49 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 23.06.09 00:36, Fons Adriaensen (f...@kokkinizita.net) wrote:
Since you claim that all the *Kit stuff is optional,
(as a side note, I didn't claim that)
and you will still allow us to run our systems as we
see fit,
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Patrick
Shirkeypshir...@boosthardware.com wrote:
On 06/22/2009 04:20 PM, Chris Cannam wrote:
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Paul Davisp...@linuxaudiosystems.com
wrote:
Finally, as Chris said -
many of us are writing apps that target multiple platforms
On 06/23/2009 06:02 PM, alex stone wrote:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Patrick
Shirkeypshir...@boosthardware.com wrote:
On 06/22/2009 04:20 PM, Chris Cannam wrote:
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Paul Davisp...@linuxaudiosystems.com
wrote:
Finally, as Chris said -
many of us are
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
As a point of interest and comparison that has very little to do with
this debate, I just noticed that pulseaudio *is* being used in the Palm Pre
http://opensource.palm.com/packages.html
While Jack and Portaudio are not.
Yes, also, Palm Pre doesn't ship with
Well, I think this is fundamentally a good idea.
I just thought someone ought to say that.
I quite understand the frustration Paul expresses about the existing
methods of doing this never having being fully exploited, but I can
see why this has happened. It's still simple enough to put your
Dennis Schulmeister linux-audio-...@windows3.de writes:
If you do a regular phone call from one mobile phone to another you
easily get 1 second latency. The point is you don't notice it unless
you're standing next to the other person.
Well, 1 second is totally unacceptable on VoIP;). I don't
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:59:19AM +0100, Bob Ham wrote:
It's great that all these new Kits are putting free software in the
hands of average users. What isn't great is that they seem to be
hastily developed and without concern for the wider free software
community. There will be
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Gene Heskettgene.hesk...@verizon.net wrote:
PA is one of the biggest screwups ever, but red hat can't see it.
This type of response is incredibly unhelpful. Lennart and others
involved with PA have made their goals clear, their design assumptions
clear, their
Le 23 juin 09 à 17:04, Paul Davis a écrit :
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Gene Heskettgene.hesk...@verizon.net
wrote:
PA is one of the biggest screwups ever, but red hat can't see it.
This type of response is incredibly unhelpful. Lennart and others
involved with PA have made their
On Tuesday 23 June 2009, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
+10,000
PA is one of the biggest screwups ever, but red hat can't see it.
I don't think PA is a bad thing. On my laptop, PA works as follows:
1) takes care of general desktop stuff as needed
2) when JACKD connects directly to ALSA, PA ceases to
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 08:46 -0400, Dave Phillips wrote:
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
What I see is that Lennart and the others who have worked on
pulseaudio have done such a good job at making the platform accessible
to the desktop community that it has now become the defacto standard
for
Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 08:46 -0400, Dave Phillips wrote:
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
... we do have a problem now that needs to be sorted with
integrating pa and jack in a way that is easy for everyone to work with.
Do they need integrated at all ?
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 12:26:01 Dave Phillips wrote:
Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 08:46 -0400, Dave Phillips wrote:
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
... we do have a problem now that needs to be sorted with
integrating pa and jack in a way that is easy for everyone to work
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 10:44 +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Mon, 22.06.09 23:46, Jörn Nettingsmeier
(netti...@folkwang-hochschule.de) wrote:
What is so difficult to understand that rtkit is not intended to be a
solution for hardcore rt users?
rtkit
2009/6/23 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano na...@ccrma.stanford.edu:
[ ... good attempt at a summary elided ... ]
fernando, unfortunately, you still missed the mechanisms described here:
http://ww2.cs.fsu.edu/~rosentha/linux/2.6.26.5/docs/scheduler/sched-rt-group.txt
which are intended to
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Ivica Ico Bukvici...@vt.edu wrote:
PA is one of the biggest screwups ever, but red hat can't see it.
I don't think PA is a bad thing.
PulseAudio works well for me, and I can't believe I'm the only one. I
have far more confidence in being able to get sound
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 13:12 -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
2009/6/23 Fernando Lopez-Lezcano na...@ccrma.stanford.edu:
[ ... good attempt at a summary elided ... ]
fernando, unfortunately, you still missed the mechanisms described here:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Fernando
Lopez-Lezcanona...@ccrma.stanford.edu wrote:
This is what Lennart wrote in his original announcement:
Why not use cgroups for this? Because it's simply a horrible API, and
using this for media applications has non-obvious consequences on
using
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 12:19 +0100, Krzysztof Foltman wrote:
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
As a point of interest and comparison that has very little to do with
this debate, I just noticed that pulseaudio *is* being used in the Palm Pre
http://opensource.palm.com/packages.html
While Jack and
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 15:27 -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Fernando
Lopez-Lezcanona...@ccrma.stanford.edu wrote:
This is what Lennart wrote in his original announcement:
Why not use cgroups for this? Because it's simply a horrible API, and
using this for
Hello everybody,
is the lv2 plugin group Boolean-oriented from lv2 rdf spec? I find it as
ingen menu item but not in the lv2 rdf spec. Does someone maybe know how
I get into there.
Regards and thank you
Uli
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On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Fernando
Lopez-Lezcanona...@ccrma.stanford.edu wrote:
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 15:27 -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Fernando
Lopez-Lezcanona...@ccrma.stanford.edu wrote:
This is what Lennart wrote in his original announcement:
Why
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Fons Adriaensenf...@kokkinizita.net wrote:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:59:19AM +0100, Bob Ham wrote:
It's great that all these new Kits
There certainly do seem to be a lot of new Kits on the block.
are putting free software in the
hands of average users.
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 09:56:08PM +0100, Chris Cannam wrote:
Auditor: OK, show me a list of all processes on this system.
System engineer: ps -ef
ps -ef? Well, there's your problem right there. Shoulda been using BSD...
First projects we did were actually on Solaris and Sun boxen..
[something appears to be wrong on the list, I'm not seeing your posts
there, I'm just getting the emails directly addressed to me]
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 16:27 -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Fernando
Lopez-Lezcanona...@ccrma.stanford.edu wrote:
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Fernando
Lopez-Lezcanona...@ccrma.stanford.edu wrote:
see here for an interesting entry:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=442959
that is hilarious :)
and
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10361
(referenced inside the previous ticket)
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 18:44 -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Fernando
Lopez-Lezcanona...@ccrma.stanford.edu wrote:
see here for an interesting entry:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=442959
that is hilarious :)
and
On 06/24/2009 02:31 AM, Dennis Schulmeister wrote:
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 12:19 +0100, Krzysztof Foltman wrote:
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
As a point of interest and comparison that has very little to do with
this debate, I just noticed that pulseaudio *is* being used in the Palm Pre
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
On 06/24/2009 02:31 AM, Dennis Schulmeister wrote:
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 12:19 +0100, Krzysztof Foltman wrote:
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
As a point of interest and comparison that has very little to do with
this debate, I just noticed that pulseaudio *is* being
On 06/24/2009 09:26 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
On 06/24/2009 02:31 AM, Dennis Schulmeister wrote:
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 12:19 +0100, Krzysztof Foltman wrote:
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
As a point of interest and comparison that has very little to do with
this debate, I
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 18:44 -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Fernando
Lopez-Lezcanona...@ccrma.stanford.edu wrote:
see here for an interesting entry:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=442959
that is hilarious :)
Hmmm, well, not really. It means he
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 15:14 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Sun, 21.06.09 20:58, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano (na...@ccrma.stanford.edu)
wrote:
The question is relevant, I think, as the kernels that I use (Planet
CCRMA) are the rt patched kernels, currently limited to 2.6.29.5 (I
On 06/24/2009 10:24 AM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 18:44 -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Fernando
Lopez-Lezcanona...@ccrma.stanford.edu wrote:
see here for an interesting entry:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=442959
On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 10:33 +0700, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
On 06/24/2009 10:24 AM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 18:44 -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Fernando
Lopez-Lezcanona...@ccrma.stanford.edu wrote:
see here for
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
On 06/24/2009 09:26 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
On 06/24/2009 02:31 AM, Dennis Schulmeister wrote:
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 12:19 +0100, Krzysztof Foltman wrote:
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
As a point of interest and comparison that has very little to do
You should go and ask people in open forums, instead of asking
developers or even users in closed mailing lists. Maybe forums for audio
and multimedia users (and users are consumers and producers), not
especially for Linux users and don't ask them if they want JACK and/ or
ALSA, ask them
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 20:25 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 15:14 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Sun, 21.06.09 20:58, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano (na...@ccrma.stanford.edu)
wrote:
The question is relevant, I think, as the kernels that I use (Planet
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