Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 02:40:11AM +0100, Patrick Shirkey wrote: Stability of a functioning build environment does have it's merits. Sure. But I don't see it happen - ever. Because it essentially means to stop innovation. Building 'the perfect world' once and for all has been a dream during

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread Neil C Smith
David, With the greatest respect to you, and I have a lot of sympathy with your ideas of GUI's using browser / JS technology, your comments on Java are bordering on FUD.  I also don't understand the general anti-Java diatribe - it's a library, and it has its uses - why treat it as somehow

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread David Robillard
On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 10:26 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 02:40:11AM +0100, Patrick Shirkey wrote: Stability of a functioning build environment does have it's merits. Sure. But I don't see it happen - ever. Because it essentially means to stop innovation.

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread David Robillard
On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 10:36 +, Neil C Smith wrote: David, With the greatest respect to you, and I have a lot of sympathy with your ideas of GUI's using browser / JS technology, your comments on Java are bordering on FUD. I also don't understand the general anti-Java diatribe - it's a

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread james
I'm no gamer but even I know games can be have been written in java. Minecraft springs to mind. A very interesting 3d block game. James Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange -Original Message- From: David Robillard d...@drobilla.net Sender: linux-audio-dev-boun...@lists.linuxaudio.org Date:

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread David Robillard
On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 18:59 +, ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: I'm no gamer but even I know games can be have been written in java. Minecraft springs to mind. A very interesting 3d block game. The one famous for having almost artistically primitive graphics? Funny, that :) Don't get me wrong, I

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread Nick Copeland
From: d...@drobilla.net On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 18:59 +, ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: I'm no gamer but even I know games can be have been written in java. Minecraft springs to mind. A very interesting 3d block game. The one famous for having almost artistically primitive graphics? Yes, and

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread David Robillard
On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 20:35 +0100, Nick Copeland wrote: From: d...@drobilla.net On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 18:59 +, ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: I'm no gamer but even I know games can be have been written in java. Minecraft springs to mind. A very interesting 3d block game. The one

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread Nick Copeland
Subject: RE: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs From: d...@drobilla.net As for UIs, there is precisely one platform available by default on almost all devices: the browser. Period. How much a bunch of Unix curmudgeons or Java fans dislike that fact doesn't change it,

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:14:46PM +0100, Nick Copeland wrote: What I am trying to say is that just because every system has a hammer does not mean you have to support nails. Screws will still always have a use but people may just have to get a driver from somewhere to use them. :-) :-)

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread Louigi Verona
Hey guys! I have worked several years as a web developer and continue to create personal projects actively. What can I say - the web obviously has lots to offer. However, the client-side has more promises than actual accomplishments, especially when it comes to cross-browser things. Want it or

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread Rui Nuno Capela
On 11/21/2011 09:14 PM, Nick Copeland wrote: ... What I am trying to say is that just because every system has a hammer does not mean you have to support nails. Screws will still always have a use but people may just have to get a driver from somewhere to use them. +1 for best maslow's

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread David Robillard
On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 00:41 +0300, Louigi Verona wrote: Hey guys! I have worked several years as a web developer and continue to create personal projects actively. What can I say - the web obviously has lots to offer. However, the client-side has more promises than actual accomplishments,

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread Nick Copeland
Subject: Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs From: d...@drobilla.net All we need is a couple of sliders and knobs and such. It's quite straight forward Ah, is that all we need? I never realised it was so simple. Can I have them in some dull, boring grey colour with

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:42:31PM +0100, Nick Copeland wrote: Subject: Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs From: d...@drobilla.net All we need is a couple of sliders and knobs and such. It's quite straight forward Ah, is that all we need? I never realised

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread David Robillard
On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 23:42 +0100, Nick Copeland wrote: Subject: Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs From: d...@drobilla.net All we need is a couple of sliders and knobs and such. It's quite straight forward Ah, is that all we need? I never realised it was so

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread David Robillard
On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 22:57 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:42:31PM +0100, Nick Copeland wrote: Subject: Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs From: d...@drobilla.net All we need is a couple of sliders and knobs and such. It's quite

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:32:51 -0500 David Robillard d...@drobilla.net wrote: Call me crazy, but I'll take clarity and usability over blind emulation and stupid little pixmaps of physical buttons any day. See, I find stupid little grey boxes a lot less clear and usable than pixmap controls.

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 00:41 +0300, Louigi Verona wrote: Hey guys! I have worked several years as a web developer and continue to create personal projects actively. What can I say - the web obviously has lots to offer. However, the client-side has more promises than actual accomplishments,

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread James Morris
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:33:38 -0500 David Robillard d...@drobilla.net wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 22:57 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:42:31PM +0100, Nick Copeland wrote: Subject: Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs From:

Re: [LAD] bleeding edge html5 has interesting Audio APIs

2011-11-21 Thread David Robillard
On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 23:59 +, James Morris wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:33:38 -0500 David Robillard d...@drobilla.net wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 22:57 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:42:31PM +0100, Nick Copeland wrote: Subject: Re: [LAD] bleeding