Re: [LAD] NSM - handling large files

>From my user perspective - I use samples extensively, however I care very little about exporting projects. I do care about preserving them, but I have a special folder called Sessions where I save projects from all audio apps. Add my sample library to that and I can preserve everything. -- Lou

Re: [LAD] NSM - handling large files

On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 18:29 -0700, J. Liles wrote: [...] > Currently, when you drag n' drop an external audio file into a Non-DAW > timeline (as opposed to recording it from within Non-DAW), the file > remains external with its path recorded > in the project's journal. Using a symlink for this woul

Re: [LAD] NSM - handling large files

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: > > indeed. real life that is :) > > as far as qtractor is, all media content files, be that either audio or midi > types, are ALL external files. it's true that some are created and edited > under qtractor direct control, but they are all ex

Re: [LAD] NSM - handling large files

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 4:40 PM, David Robillard wrote: > On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 22:23 +0100, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: >> now back to square one. to make that whole session state, folder or >> directory, as an archival portable one is, quite frankly and imho again, >> utopian. nuff said :) > > It's i

Re: [LAD] NSM - handling large files

On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 22:23 +0100, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: > now back to square one. to make that whole session state, folder or > directory, as an archival portable one is, quite frankly and imho again, > utopian. nuff said :) It's indeed utopian to think that some centralized special magic prog

Re: [LAD] NSM - handling large files

On 03/29/2012 10:45 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:23:30PM +0100, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: otoh. now in particular, those GUI (file menu) restrictions that NSM is posing on applications is something i won't comply to any time soon, not even later. so sorry. it's way too res

Re: [LAD] NSM - handling large files

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:23:30PM +0100, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: > otoh. now in particular, those GUI (file menu) restrictions that NSM is > posing on applications is something i won't comply to any time soon, not > even later. so sorry. it's way too restrictive to me and my own > belongings

Re: [LAD] HDSP 9652 and Behringer ADA8000

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:51:57PM +0200, Giso Grimm wrote: > > I wonder, what is the link between preparing those files (which > > should not involve anything except editing and maybe getting the > > levels equal, i.e. no hardware involved at all), and that discovery ? > > no link at all, it ju

Re: [LAD] NSM - handling large files

On 03/29/2012 02:44 PM, Emanuel Rumpf wrote: Back to life - back to reality 1. We start qtractor as part of a session, create some midi-tracks, include some external wav-files. Should the SM "know" about these external files, as I suggested ? (Allowing the user to find out basic info about it.

Re: [LAD] HDSP 9652 and Behringer ADA8000

On 03/29/2012 10:28 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 09:09:26PM +0200, Giso Grimm wrote: > >> Here you might listen, the same piece, same musicians, same place, same >> mics (Neumann KM184 pair), same positions, same lute (although it was at >> the luthier for repair in betwee

Re: [LAD] HDSP 9652 and Behringer ADA8000

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 09:09:26PM +0200, Giso Grimm wrote: > Here you might listen, the same piece, same musicians, same place, same > mics (Neumann KM184 pair), same positions, same lute (although it was at > the luthier for repair in between), one was four month later, the words > were changed

Re: [LAD] HDSP 9652 and Behringer ADA8000

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 09:09:26PM +0200, Giso Grimm wrote: > Here you might listen, the same piece, same musicians, same place, same > mics (Neumann KM184 pair), same positions, same lute (although it was at > the luthier for repair in between), one was four month later, the words > were changed

Re: [LAD] HDSP 9652 and Behringer ADA8000

On 03/28/2012 11:42 PM, Giso Grimm wrote: > On 03/28/2012 11:25 PM, Adrian Knoth wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 09:03:24PM +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: >> >> [ADA-8000] >>> other in 6U rack - just 1U space at the top and bottom. >>> Three of them were fried. You only know when the damage >>> is

Re: [LAD] Non Session Management

On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 15:29 +0200, Emanuel Rumpf wrote: > Am 28. März 2012 20:53 schrieb David Robillard : > > > > It's sooo complicated because it forces everything involved to use a > > special file finding and/or loading interface. > > > wrong - apps only tell the SM about files used externally

Re: [LAD] HDSP 9652 and Behringer ADA8000

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 02:27:42PM +0200, Adrian Knoth wrote: > I've already posted the following blind test: > >http://adi.loris.tv/converters/ > > One device is Lynx Aurora 16, the other one is Behringer ADA-8000. > No information was given whether A=Aurora and B=Behringer or vice versa,

Re: [LAD] HDSP 9652 and Behringer ADA8000

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 02:27:42PM +0200, Adrian Knoth wrote: > Yes, ADA8000 is based on Alesis (now WaveFront Semiconductors) A/D > (AL1101), D/A (AL1201), an ADAT encoder (OptoGen AL1401) and an ADAT > receiver (OptoRec AL1402). > > The ADA8000 is a copy of the RME AEB8-I (I had the scheme for

Re: [LAD] Non Session Management

On 03/29/2012 04:22 PM, Emanuel Rumpf wrote: Am 29. März 2012 13:16 schrieb thijs van severen> IMHO making such a matrix is the only good way to make a decisions of any kind I disagree here: Session managers have different concepts. A simple matrix doesn't do it (show it). IMHO user _experi

Re: [LAD] Non Session Management

Am 29. März 2012 13:16 schrieb thijs van severen > > > IMHO making such a matrix is the only good way to > make a decisions of any kind > I disagree here: Session managers have different concepts. A simple matrix doesn't do it (show it). IMHO user _experience_ is most important. 1. is it stable a

Re: [LAD] NSM - handling large files

Am 29. März 2012 15:34 schrieb Emanuel Rumpf : Back to life - back to reality 1. We start qtractor as part of a session, create some midi-tracks, include some external wav-files. Should the SM "know" about these external files, as I suggested ? (Allowing the user to find out basic info about it

[LAD] NSM - handling large files

The discussion started, with the question about large files. Keep it simple - store either files or links in the session folder ? Why not ? Some more opinions please. -- E.R. ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http:/

Re: [LAD] Non Session Management

Am 28. März 2012 20:53 schrieb David Robillard : > > It's sooo complicated because it forces everything involved to use a > special file finding and/or loading interface. > wrong - apps only tell the SM about files used externally - that's all. > It also requires that central store to remain consi

Re: [LAD] Non Session Management

Am 29. März 2012 10:24 schrieb rosea.grammostola > > > How easy or how difficult is it compared to JackSession for example, to add > NSM support to an application? > NSM is not more difficult. Look at the yoshimi patch: Include a class, add some handlers, set some options, that's it. You have to

Re: [LAD] HDSP 9652 and Behringer ADA8000

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:42:03PM +0200, Giso Grimm wrote: > Recently I made a recording (lute & singing), partly with ADA8000, > partly with RME Micstasy, both with the same Neumann mics, and I could > barely hear the difference... Which is hardly suprising. ;) I've found the following quote on

Re: [LAD] Non Session Management

On 03/29/2012 01:25 PM, thijs van severen wrote: 2012/3/29 rosea.grammostola mailto:rosea.grammost...@gmail.com>> On 03/29/2012 01:16 PM, thijs van severen wrote: 2012/3/29 rosea.grammostola mailto:rosea.grammost...@gmail.com>

Re: [LAD] Non Session Management

2012/3/29 rosea.grammostola > On 03/29/2012 01:16 PM, thijs van severen wrote: > >> >> >> 2012/3/29 rosea.grammostola > > >> >> >>On 03/29/2012 12:29 PM, thijs van severen wrote: >> >> >> >>2012/3/29 Louigi Verona >

Re: [LAD] Non Session Management

On 03/29/2012 01:16 PM, thijs van severen wrote: 2012/3/29 rosea.grammostola mailto:rosea.grammost...@gmail.com>> On 03/29/2012 12:29 PM, thijs van severen wrote: 2012/3/29 Louigi Verona mailto:louigi.ver...@gmail.com>

Re: [LAD] Non Session Management

2012/3/29 rosea.grammostola > On 03/29/2012 12:29 PM, thijs van severen wrote: > >> >> >> 2012/3/29 Louigi Verona > > >> >> >>my 2 cents from user perspective: I know where I save my files, I know >>where my sample collections are. i know that if i delet

Re: [LAD] Non Session Management

On 03/29/2012 11:41 AM, rosea.grammostola wrote: On 03/29/2012 12:02 PM, Louigi Verona wrote: my 2 cents from user perspective: I know where I save my files, I know where my sample collections are. i know that if i delete my sample collection, sessions won't load. i don't need any program to tel

Re: [LAD] Non Session Management

On 03/29/2012 12:29 PM, thijs van severen wrote: 2012/3/29 Louigi Verona mailto:louigi.ver...@gmail.com>> my 2 cents from user perspective: I know where I save my files, I know where my sample collections are. i know that if i delete my sample collection, sessions won't load. i don

Re: [LAD] Non Session Management

On 03/29/2012 12:02 PM, Louigi Verona wrote: my 2 cents from user perspective: I know where I save my files, I know where my sample collections are. i know that if i delete my sample collection, sessions won't load. i don't need any program to tell me that. in fact, in using FL Studio or Cubase

Re: [LAD] Non Session Management

2012/3/29 Louigi Verona > my 2 cents from user perspective: I know where I save my files, I know > where my sample collections are. i know that if i delete my sample > collection, sessions won't load. i don't need any program to tell me > that. > > in fact, in using FL Studio or Cubase or LMMS yo

Re: [LAD] Non Session Management

my 2 cents from user perspective: I know where I save my files, I know where my sample collections are. i know that if i delete my sample collection, sessions won't load. i don't need any program to tell me that. in fact, in using FL Studio or Cubase or LMMS you have the same situation. a project

Re: [LAD] Non Session Management

On 03/24/2012 11:09 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: 3. Clearly defining the way an app should behave w.r.t. its File menu entries (when managed). This is quite intrusive to existing clients, but it is IMHO absolutley essential. Kudos to the designer(s) for the having the courage to do