Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24)

2012-08-31 Thread John Rigg
Thanks for taking the initiative on this. The lack of high quality samples usable on a Linux system has been quite a problem. John ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24)

2012-08-31 Thread Paul Davis
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 5:12 AM, John Rigg la...@jrigg.co.uk wrote: Thanks for taking the initiative on this. The lack of high quality samples usable on a Linux system has been quite a problem. this is subtle, but i'd like to point out that the problem is actually slightly more specific than

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24)

2012-08-31 Thread Nils
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:58:07 -0400 Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 5:12 AM, John Rigg la...@jrigg.co.uk wrote: Thanks for taking the initiative on this. The lack of high quality samples usable on a Linux system has been quite a problem. this is

[LAD] Trying to understand mixer in ALSA API

2012-08-31 Thread Alexandre
Hi Kinda new to linux audio and still a bit new to dev generally and I'm trying to understand the basis of linux audio. By that, I mean the ALSA API : I would like to use the PCM interface and the mixer interface to mix 2 sounds and understand the real meaning of a mixer used in the Audio

Re: [LAD] Trying to understand mixer in ALSA API

2012-08-31 Thread Paul Davis
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Alexandre alexdut...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Kinda new to linux audio and still a bit new to dev generally and I'm trying to understand the basis of linux audio. By that, I mean the ALSA API : I would like to use the PCM interface and the mixer interface to mix

Re: [LAD] Trying to understand mixer in ALSA API

2012-08-31 Thread Zixns
so if understand, a single audio stream is coming from the software mixer, which mixes multiple stream from different sources, and transfered using the PCM interface to th kernel and then to the hardware ? the software mixing in alsa is done by dmix i guess ? Paul Davis wrote: On Fri, Aug

Re: [LAD] Trying to understand mixer in ALSA API

2012-08-31 Thread Paul Davis
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Zixns alexdut...@gmail.com wrote: so if understand, a single audio stream is coming from the software mixer, which mixes multiple stream from different sources, and transfered using the PCM interface to th kernel and then to the hardware ? the software mixing

[LAD] Possible to run jackd on Android?

2012-08-31 Thread Bill Gribble
For a few years I have used an Atom UMPC as my mobile development terminal, allowing me to build and run code at much lower performance than I would expect from a real system but good enough for working on new bits of code and finding performance bottlenecks :) I am migrating over to a Nexus 7

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24)

2012-08-31 Thread Harry van Haaren
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote: The direct and naive solution would be a reversed engineered kontakt sample engine, yes. Very naive. The community could approach NI and ask if they're intrested in supporting a Linux version of Kontact? I volunteer to write the

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24)

2012-08-31 Thread Brett McCoy
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Harry van Haaren harryhaa...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote: The direct and naive solution would be a reversed engineered kontakt sample engine, yes. Very naive. The community could approach NI and ask if

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24)

2012-08-31 Thread Julien Claassen
Hello Harry! Yes, I am pretty sure, that it had been done before. But I can't remember when exactly. I suppose it's always wrth a trial. You will never know, if you don't say a word. Perhaps we could get together sort of a friendly petition or at laest a list of interested parties and attach

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24)

2012-08-31 Thread Joakim Hernberg
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:43:13 +0100 Harry van Haaren harryhaa...@gmail.com wrote: The community could approach NI and ask if they're intrested in supporting a Linux version of Kontact? I volunteer to write the email, and if they laugh then what harm done... The community could also ask them

Re: [LAD] Trying to understand mixer in ALSA API

2012-08-31 Thread Zixns
ok, last questions on the software mixer. On my linux distribution, i have alsa with pulseaudio. i know that pulseaudio is doing software mixing. If I remove pulseaudio, I can still do software mixing : which lib / program in alsa is doing it ? Paul Davis wrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:19

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24)

2012-08-31 Thread Nils
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:43:13 +0100 Harry van Haaren harryhaa...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote: The direct and naive solution would be a reversed engineered kontakt sample engine, yes. Very naive. The community could approach NI and ask

Re: [LAD] Trying to understand mixer in ALSA API

2012-08-31 Thread SxDx
- Original Message - From: Zixns alexdut...@gmail.com ok, last questions on the software mixer. On my linux distribution, i have alsa with pulseaudio. i know that pulseaudio is doing software mixing. If I remove pulseaudio, I can still do software mixing : which lib / program in

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24)

2012-08-31 Thread rosea.grammostola
On 08/31/2012 04:56 PM, Nils wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:43:13 +0100 Harry van Haarenharryhaa...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Nilsl...@nilsgey.de wrote: The direct and naive solution would be a reversed engineered kontakt sample engine, yes. Very naive. The

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24)

2012-08-31 Thread Paul Davis
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:59 AM, rosea.grammostola rosea.grammost...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/31/2012 04:56 PM, Nils wrote: On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 14:43:13 +0100 Harry van Haarenharryhaa...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Nilsl...@nilsgey.de wrote: The direct and naive

Re: [LAD] Possible to run jackd on Android?

2012-08-31 Thread Paul Davis
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Bill Gribble g...@billgribble.com wrote: For a few years I have used an Atom UMPC as my mobile development terminal, allowing me to build and run code at much lower performance than I would expect from a real system but good enough for working on new bits of

[LAD] Four decks audio player for radio stations

2012-08-31 Thread Adrian Knoth
Hi! I was recently helping a small Dutch radio station run by volunteers to set up their new studio. It's a modular system with a 16 I/O firewire card: http://www.d-r.nl/AXUM/AXUM.htm We managed to support it in FFADO. The playback software runs on a virtualised Windows machine that's

Re: [LAD] Listing lowest and highest frequencies in a track?

2012-08-31 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:54:28PM -0600, Bearcat M. Şándor wrote: Folks, Is there a Linux program out there that i can throw a wave file at that will tell me what the lowest and highest frequencies are in it, where they are and at what dB they occur? Do you mean dBm? dB is a ratio. -- If

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24)

2012-08-31 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Paul Davis wrote: NI already have inhouse versions of many of their software tools for Linux, and they use it in house for some development. I met with them in person several years ago when I was teaching in Berlin. They are quite big technical fans of JACK

Re: [LAD] Listing lowest and highest frequencies in a track?

2012-08-31 Thread Paul Davis
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:54:28PM -0600, Bearcat M. Şándor wrote: Folks, Is there a Linux program out there that i can throw a wave file at that will tell me what the lowest and highest frequencies are

[LAD] CC-by-sa licensed samples/instrument plugins

2012-08-31 Thread Nils
As you may know from the other sampling thread here on this list I have written several emails to sample developers over the last two days and suggested CC-By-Sa as sampling license. Clearly the intention of sample developers, they all write it in their currenct licenses, is that the

Re: [LAD] CC-by-sa licensed samples/instrument plugins

2012-08-31 Thread Nils
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 19:56:27 +0400 Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Nils wrote: But for Creative Commons ShareAlike? Is music a derived work from samples under cc-by-sa? Is your video a derivative work from fonts that you used

Re: [LAD] CC-by-sa licensed samples/instrument plugins

2012-08-31 Thread Luis Garrido
On 08/31/2012 05:44 PM, Nils wrote: Also if yes: Is there even a pre-packaged license that allows: There is this one, not sure if it fits your purposes, it can probably be flavored like most CC licenses: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/sampling+/1.0/ Another important tool is a decent

Re: [LAD] CC-by-sa licensed samples/instrument plugins

2012-08-31 Thread Luis Garrido
On 08/31/2012 06:08 PM, Luis Garrido wrote: There is this one, not sure if it fits your purposes, it can probably be flavored like most CC licenses: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/sampling+/1.0/ And a discussion about why that license was retired (but it is still usable) here:

Re: [LAD] CC-by-sa licensed samples/instrument plugins

2012-08-31 Thread Nils
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:08:20 +0200 Luis Garrido l...@vagar.org wrote: On 08/31/2012 05:44 PM, Nils wrote: Also if yes: Is there even a pre-packaged license that allows: There is this one, not sure if it fits your purposes, it can probably be flavored like most CC licenses:

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24)

2012-08-31 Thread Harry van Haaren
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.comwrote: A lot of people (even on this list) don't understand the extent to which *supporting* a piece of software is often a far bigger cost than the initial development, and providing support for a platform with very few

Re: [LAD] CC-by-sa licensed samples/instrument plugins

2012-08-31 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 08/31/2012 05:44 PM, Nils wrote: But for Creative Commons ShareAlike? Is music a derived work from samples under cc-by-sa? From http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode: 'Adaptation' means a work based upon the Work, or upon the Work and other pre-existing works (...) or

Re: [LAD] Listing lowest and highest frequencies in a track?

2012-08-31 Thread Jeremy Salwen
You're probably even more interested in the lowest frequency component of the bass itself. If you're able to freeze JAAA at a point where the bass is playing a loud clear note and there isn't much other noise, then you should be able to see a pattern in the spectrogram. There should be a series

Re: [LAD] Listing lowest and highest frequencies in a track?

2012-08-31 Thread Sakari Bergen
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.comwrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:54:28PM -0600, Bearcat M. Şándor wrote: Folks, Is there a Linux program out there that i can throw

Re: [LAD] Listing lowest and highest frequencies in a track?

2012-08-31 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 09:47:56PM +0300, Sakari Bergen wrote: However, the biggest problem in the question is that it doesn't consider the time-frequency uncertainty, and the fundamental nature of time limited signals (a time limited signal can't be band limited). You can not measure

Re: [LAD] Four decks audio player for radio stations

2012-08-31 Thread drew Roberts
On Friday 31 August 2012 11:32:35 Adrian Knoth wrote: Hi! I was recently helping a small Dutch radio station run by volunteers to set up their new studio. It's a modular system with a 16 I/O firewire card: http://www.d-r.nl/AXUM/AXUM.htm We managed to support it in FFADO. The

Re: [LAD] CC-by-sa licensed samples/instrument plugins

2012-08-31 Thread drew Roberts
On Friday 31 August 2012 12:08:20 Luis Garrido wrote: On 08/31/2012 05:44 PM, Nils wrote: Also if yes: Is there even a pre-packaged license that allows: There is this one, not sure if it fits your purposes, it can probably be flavored like most CC licenses:

Re: [LAD] Kontakt sampler format (and others like EXS24)

2012-08-31 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On Sat, September 1, 2012 3:12 am, Harry van Haaren wrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.comwrote: A lot of people (even on this list) don't understand the extent to which *supporting* a piece of software is often a far bigger cost than the initial