Greetings,
I've been reading a lot of negative (read: vitriolic) commentary about
the world of Linux audio development and applications. I won't bother to
say where, just "the usual places" will have to suffice. Of greater
interest to me is the commentary itself - it seems to boil down to the
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Dave Phillips wrote:
> I've been reading a lot of negative (read: vitriolic) commentary about the
> world of Linux audio development and applications. I won't bother to say
> where, just "the usual places" will have to suffice. Of greater interest to
> me is the co
Hey Dave,
let me give you my opinion.
Too many distros - don't see it as a problem
Too many audio-optimized distros - don't see it as a problem
Not enough native plugins, esp. instruments. - agree, big problem, would
not speak of instruments only, effects as well
Inconsistent support for VST/VSTi
On 02/05/2013 10:29 AM, Louigi Verona wrote:
Hey Dave,
let me give you my opinion.
Hi Louigi, I was waiting for your input. :)
Some short replies:
Lack of support for contemporary hardware. - probably, although I have
no data as to how big the problem is
I've found a simple metric. Just
Hi Dave,
My experience as a Linux audio user:
1. not enough instrument plugins
2. poor VST support
3. poor session management
4. inconsistent use of existing standards by apps
My experience as a Linux developer (albeit a small one):
1. too many standards, hard to know what to implement
2. too
On Tue, 05 Feb 2013 09:58:14 -0500
Dave Phillips wrote:
> ...
>
> So, in your honest and bold opinion as user and/or developer, what do we
> lack most and what can we do without that we already have ? Please feel
> free to expand your remarks as you like. I'm planning an article on the
> to
Let's hope this turns into a productive thread and not a flamewar, because
I think this really has potential.
My comments will be the way I see it, and how I understand it from other
musicians I've talked to about Linux audio and music production in general.
Generally, what I think is that what n
On Tue, 5 Feb 2013 18:29:06 +0300
Louigi Verona wrote:
> [...]
> I would have to comment more on the latter. I don't think it is bad or
> unavoidable to have fragmentation and conflict. This is natural for most
> human interaction. The problem, in my view, is that there are so few
> developers (c
On 02/05/2013 03:58 PM, Dave Phillips wrote:
So, in your honest and bold opinion as user and/or developer, what do we
lack most and what can we do without that we already have ?
Enlightenment.
--
Thorsten Wilms
thorwil's design for free software:
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/
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On 02/05/2013 11:12 AM, Gabbe Nord wrote:
Let's hope this turns into a productive thread and not a flamewar,
because I think this really has potential.
Hear the voice. To all: In the interest of clarity, please avoid dialog.
I want to know what the members of LAD and LAU think about the topic,
On 02/05/2013 11:20 AM, Dave Phillips wrote:
... In the interest of clarity, please avoid dialog.
Should have read "unproductive dialog", sorry.
Best,
dp
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I'm not saying anything, but if I wanted to troll LAD/LAU, this topic
would be one of my first choices.
On 2/5/13, Dave Phillips wrote:
> On 02/05/2013 11:20 AM, Dave Phillips wrote:
>
>> ... In the interest of clarity, please avoid dialog.
>
> Should have read "unproductive dialog", sorry.
>
> B
Hi Dave!
This e-mail will probably not come to LAU and LAD (I hope it will, maybe
with your help :-) (to restrictive settings)) but I hope you get it.
Reply to All / Reply to List
On Tuesday 05 February 2013 09.58.14 Dave Phillips wrote:
...
> So, in your honest and bold opinion as user and/or
Hi Dave,
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Dave Phillips wrote:
> Not enough native plugins, esp. instruments.
I think this is one of the key problems with Linux audio. Part of the
problem is that there is no clear mechanism for (non-developer) users
to create their own instruments. Many VSTs a
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Jostein Chr. Andersen wrote:
>
>
> * A very geeky community. I see very often the answer:
> "read the ALSA matrix" when a poor newbie or a
> curious person asks for the best soundcards for Linux.
> That something works in Linux does not mean
> that it's goo
Short reply to you Devin. I agree with everything you write. A couple of
thoughts on how to adress some of the issues you raise:
User feedback. I always try and provide feedback and suggestions for
whatever I use, and I enjoy doing it too. I think alot of users would like
to do this too, but two g
Hi Gabbe,
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Gabbe Nord wrote:
> 1. An easy way to provide this feedback, and encouragement to do so.
> There's IRC, mailinglists and forums for this, but most apps actually lack
> encouragement for feedback. Something as simple as writing "If you like this
> softw
Hi Dave,
2013/2/5 Dave Phillips :
> So, in your honest and bold opinion as user and/or developer, what do we
> lack most and what can we do without that we already have ? Please feel free
> to expand your remarks as you like. I'm planning an article on the topic and
> will likely use selected comm
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Jostein Chr. Andersen
wrote:
> > * A very geeky community. I see very often the answer:
> > "read the ALSA matrix" when a poor newbie or a
> > curious person asks for the best soundcards for Linux.
> > That something works in Linux does not mean
> > that
"1.) What else can I do, as a developer, to make users feel more involved?"
Hey Davin!
One of the most responsive devs are those that
a. respond quickly
b. actively develop their software
c. integrate suggestions quickly
In Linux Audio excellent response I get from Rui on his Qtractor and on
Giad
Hi Dave!
This thread seems to have gathered a lot of replies and since I'm not home,
I can't read them right now. In the hope of not duplicating too much, here are
my thoughts:
The plugin-systems seem to get a little diverse. the problem from my
perspective is usability in text mode. These
On Tuesday 05 February 2013 17:16:45 Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> On 02/05/2013 03:58 PM, Dave Phillips wrote:
> > So, in your honest and bold opinion as user and/or developer, what do we
> > lack most and what can we do without that we already have ?
>
> Enlightenment.
E17 has been released. At last!
Hi Louigi,
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Louigi Verona wrote:
> "1.) What else can I do, as a developer, to make users feel more involved?"
>
> Hey Davin!
> One of the most responsive devs are those that
> a. respond quickly
> b. actively develop their software
> c. integrate suggestions quick
On Tuesday 05 February 2013 18:26:24 David Baron wrote:
> My main complaint is not really about Linux, per se, but the whole DAW,
> etc., scene: Lack of interoperability!
>
> I have a lot of Cakewalk files from the Windows days. Cannot do anything
> with them besides play two tracks in Cakewalk-Ex
Devin wrote:
"
*1.) Developer releases software.
2.) Users download software.
3.) Users don't give feedback, or give very little feedback, on software.
4.) Developer doesn't continue to develop software because (s)he's
unmotivated to continue due to a perceived lack of community interest
and/or be
HI Gabbe,
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Gabbe Nord wrote:
> An idea is to make a popup that comes up occasionally (maybe once a month or
> so) when starting/closing the application. This popup could do several
> things that could increase the participation of users, for example:
>
> a) Provid
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Louigi Verona wrote:
> Here, on Linux, there is no such thing as market competition. And thus -
> no natural selection of software, so to speak.
>
if and when bitwig is released for linux, i suspect this will not be the
case anymore.
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On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Paul Davis wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Louigi Verona wrote:
>
>> Here, on Linux, there is no such thing as market competition. And thus -
>> no natural selection of software, so to speak.
>>
>
> if and when bitwig is released for linux, i suspec
On February 5, 2013 08:18:03 PM Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas wrote:
> On Tuesday 05 February 2013 18:26:24 David Baron wrote:
> > My main complaint is not really about Linux, per se, but the whole DAW,
> > etc., scene: Lack of interoperability!
> >
> > I have a lot of Cakewalk files from the Windows day
On Wed, February 6, 2013 7:12 am, Paul Davis wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Louigi Verona
> wrote:
>
>> Here, on Linux, there is no such thing as market competition. And thus
>> -
>> no natural selection of software, so to speak.
>>
>
> if and when bitwig is released for linux, i suspec
On 02/05/2013 03:58 PM, Dave Phillips wrote:
> Poor support for certain modes of composition (think Ableton Live).
Bitwig will hopefully soon provide that (proprietary software, though).
What sucks is that it won't support LV2 when it comes out, but at least
it's planned.
Concerning LV2 and the l
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Dave Phillips wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I've been reading a lot of negative (read: vitriolic) commentary about the
> world of Linux audio development and applications. I won't bother to say
> where, just "the usual places" will have to suffice. Of greater interest to
on Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 09:58:14AM -0500, Dave Phillips wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I've been reading a lot of negative (read: vitriolic) commentary
> about the world of Linux audio development and applications. I won't
> bother to say where, just "the usual places" will have to suffice.
> Of greater
Le Tue, 05 Feb 2013 09:58:14 -0500,
Dave Phillips a écrit :
> Greetings,
>
> I've been reading a lot of negative (read: vitriolic) commentary
> about the world of Linux audio development and applications. I won't
> bother to say where, just "the usual places" will have to suffice. Of
> greater i
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:56 PM, William Light wrote:
>
> you can listen to my music at http://soundcloud.com/visinin if you'd
> like.
>
some nice stuff in there. camphor and you was particularly appealing (to me)
> .and
> every time i use ardour i crash it somehow. it doesn't seem to like my
>
On 02/05/2013 06:15 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Jostein Chr. Andersen
mailto:jost...@vait.se>> wrote:
* A very geeky community. I see very often the answer:
"read the ALSA matrix" when a poor newbie or a
curious person asks for the best soundcard
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