Re: [LAD] [LAU] Ardour MIDI tracer

2014-08-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-08-16 at 03:00 -0400, Tim E. Real wrote: One can use the pitch wheel for something other than pitch. It is per-channel. You can have up to 16 14-bit pitch wheels (or knobs/sliders/etc), per interface, each routed to whatever you want. You would just have to reserve some

Re: [LAD] [LAU] Ardour MIDI tracer

2014-08-16 Thread Dennis Schulmeister
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:32:06 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: there always is loud audible digital noise what ever slot I use. I experience/d the same with my TerraTec PCI cards on this machine and with my old mobo. All computers do that. Just put a DI-box with ground lift

Re: [LAD] [LAU] Ardour MIDI tracer

2014-08-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 16 August 2014 06:49:59 Dennis Schulmeister did opine And Gene did reply: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:32:06 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: there always is loud audible digital noise what ever slot I use. I experience/d the same with my TerraTec PCI cards on

Re: [LAD] [LAU] Ardour MIDI tracer

2014-08-16 Thread Tracey Hytry
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 09:30:51 -0400 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: And get someone electrocuted. That doesn't happen on my watch because they'll never get it plugged in, I would not allow it. There are several ways to fix a noise inducing ground loop, but a ground lift adapter is not

Re: [LAD] [LAU] Ardour MIDI tracer

2014-08-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
A DI-box with transformers galvanically isolates, but I won't discuss ground loops and ground lifts. Isn't the digital noise audible regarding to electric smog inside the computer? Hm? By a short test I couldn't hear the digital noise from an ADA8000 output (but mains hum and/or a ground loop is

Re: [LAD] [LAU] Ardour MIDI tracer

2014-08-16 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 09:30:51AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: All computers do that. Just put a DI-box with ground lift between your audio interface and the speakers and the noise is gone. Dennis And get someone electrocuted. That doesn't happen on my watch because they'll never get

Re: [LAD] [LAU] Ardour MIDI tracer

2014-08-16 Thread Dennis Schulmeister
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 18:01:12 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: A DI-box with transformers galvanically isolates Absolutely. That's why I said put a DI-box in between. Isn't the digital noise audible regarding to electric smog inside the computer? My experience is that

Re: [LAD] [LAU] Ardour MIDI tracer

2014-08-16 Thread Bill Gribble
On Aug 16, 2014, at 12:09, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: Whether it will reduce interference from MIDI in a sound card is questionable. MIDI is isolated anyway. If anything of it leaks into the analog audio path that means the sound card has a problem. DIN MIDI is isolated, but

Re: [LAD] [LAU] Ardour MIDI tracer

2014-08-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-08-16 at 16:09 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 09:30:51AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: All computers do that. Just put a DI-box with ground lift between your audio interface and the speakers and the noise is gone. Dennis And get someone

Re: [LAD] [LAU] Ardour MIDI tracer

2014-08-16 Thread Len Ovens
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, Tim E. Real wrote: Pitch bend, which the mackie faders use, is specified in the MIDI standard and in the MCP spec as: Ex yy zz in one event. Correct. Pitch bend is the only truly 14-bit encapsulated message. There is also one more, real time Song Position Pointer (F2,

Re: [LAD] [LAU] Computer noise, was: Ardour MIDI tracer

2014-08-16 Thread Dennis Schulmeister
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 18:21:52 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Increase the volume and you will hear digital noise from the analog IOs of a card inside of the computer. Move the mouse and extra noise will be audible, no MIDI is needed to get annoying noise. MIDI noise is

Re: [LAD] [LAU] Ardour MIDI tracer

2014-08-16 Thread Paul Davis
The JACK MIDI API delivers and acccepts normalized MIDI data ONLY. No running status. No clever merging or filtering. Bytes in... bytes out. ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org

Re: [LAD] [LAU] Ardour MIDI tracer

2014-08-16 Thread Len Ovens
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, Paul Davis wrote: The JACK MIDI API delivers and acccepts normalized MIDI data ONLY. No running status. No clever merging or filtering. Bytes in... bytes out. That makes perfect sense. That way the application designer can expect all MIDI events to be the same way. How

Re: [LAD] [LAU] Ardour MIDI tracer

2014-08-16 Thread Paul Davis
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, Paul Davis wrote: The JACK MIDI API delivers and acccepts normalized MIDI data ONLY. No running status. No clever merging or filtering. Bytes in... bytes out. That makes perfect sense. That way the

Re: [LAD] [LAU] Ardour MIDI tracer

2014-08-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-08-16 at 09:45 -0700, Len Ovens wrote: A quick thought on fineness of control. It is true that 127 levels tends to zipper. However, 127 levels is more than enough for static levels. I disagree. I never heard zipper noise, when I fade in or out or when using MIDI panning. Usually

Re: [LAD] [LAU] Computer noise, was: Ardour MIDI tracer

2014-08-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-08-16 at 20:17 +0200, Dennis Schulmeister wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 18:21:52 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Increase the volume and you will hear digital noise from the analog IOs of a card inside of the computer. Move the mouse and extra noise will be

Re: [LAD] [LAU] Ardour MIDI tracer

2014-08-16 Thread Len Ovens
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014, Paul Davis wrote: On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net wrote: I can see that dealing with controller data has some way to go. the problems with controllers come from the almost absurdly varied ways that h/w manufacturers have chosen to use