Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread Thomas Brand
On Mon, December 4, 2017 10:37, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > On the train on an off-day, I started a rough mix-down so that the > client can begin the selection process. In the middle of exporting, my Mac > shuts down and boots into a PIN unlock screen, telling me it has been > locked via "Find-my-M

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 11:52:30 +0100, Louigi Verona wrote: >Any system can fail, and it is never at the right time. And in my >experience, proprietary systems are generally much more stable than >floss, and are less likely to fail suddenly and without warning. I made that good experiences with audio

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread Robin Gareus
On 12/04/2017 06:52 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > On 12/04/2017 01:30 PM, Robin Gareus wrote: > >> Seeing as this was in a train, and last I looked the DB-network was wide >> open, I'm curious if this was actually a hack by guy in another >> train-compartment or perhaps a subverted access-point

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread Len Ovens
On Mon, 4 Dec 2017, Neil C Smith wrote: On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:52 AM Louigi Verona wrote: And in my experience, proprietary systems are generally much more stable than floss, and are less likely to fail suddenly and without warning. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha oh, wait .. y

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread Kevin Cole
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:52 AM Louigi Verona wrote: > And in my experience, proprietary systems are generally much more stable > than floss, and are less likely to fail suddenly and without warning. If, by stable, you mean what's broken stays broken, then I agree, ;-) __

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread Kevin Cole
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:09 AM, Louigi Verona wrote: > Proprietary software does not automatically mean vendor lock-in. A function > to block stolen laptops has nothing to do with vendor lock-in. It is a > useful feature that, frankly, I would love to have on Linux as well. If you're serious abo

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread Luddy Harrison
9 (+0100), J?rn Nettingsmeier wrote: > > Long story short: don't. > Holy... > > Glad you got your data at least. This would also freak me out a lot... > > > -- > https://sleepmap.de > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed...

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread Louigi Verona
I would argue that when there is no customer relationship, updates can be more lax. I mean, I am working in the software industry. When someone is paying you and you know they are using your system for actual results, you are very careful with your updates. On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Neil C S

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread Neil C Smith
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 12:31 PM Louigi Verona wrote: > In my experience, an update can easily kill your system - and that > happened to me more than once. > Yes, and that happens everywhere, not specific to FLOSS. This is about triaging when and which updates you apply to a working system. And

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread nils
These are all just anecdotes. If there is a bug please report or fix it. If it is a conceptual problem that leads to misbehaviour please discuss here specific solutions to specific problems. Otherwise this will just be a thread with "But me..." and "But I..." back and forth.  Keep that for LAU, pl

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread Louigi Verona
In my experience, an update can easily kill your system - and that happened to me more than once. And since I am not a customer, developers on the other end must not worry about what happens. I mean, nobody owes the user anything. "Fix it yourself, man". And it's fair. On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 1:28

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread Robin Gareus
On 12/04/2017 11:52 AM, Louigi Verona wrote: > You should also understand that millions of people are > using Macs everyday and their data doesn't get lost, right? I actually don't know a Mac user who hasn't been burnt and they all use TimeCapsules or iCloud or dropbox or a similar backup solution

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread Neil C Smith
Hi, On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 12:12 PM Louigi Verona wrote: > Nothing in the concept of FLOSS promises floss software to actually be > more high quality or more stable. All it guarantees is that you can > distribute it and modify. So why would it magically be more stable than > proprietary? > No,

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread Louigi Verona
I am very serious, Neil. I am glad that your personal experience is different. You were able to build a system that works well for you. As a person who works a lot with multimedia, I can tell you that a proprietary video editor will be in most cases much more stable than a floss one. And why should

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread Neil C Smith
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:52 AM Louigi Verona wrote: > And in my experience, proprietary systems are generally much more stable > than floss, and are less likely to fail suddenly and without warning. > ha ha ha ha ha ha ha oh, wait .. you're serious?! ;-) There's a reason I use FLOSS, and

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread Louigi Verona
Proprietary software does not automatically mean vendor lock-in. A function to block stolen laptops has nothing to do with vendor lock-in. It is a useful feature that, frankly, I would love to have on Linux as well. But also no, I did not compare free software and vendor lock-in. I compared the pr

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread David Runge
On 2017-12-04 11:52:30 (+0100), Louigi Verona wrote: > You realize, of course, that this is probably a bug and that this was not > intended by Apple? You should also understand that millions of people are > using Macs everyday and their data doesn't get lost, right? Probably. But do you really wan

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread Louigi Verona
You realize, of course, that this is probably a bug and that this was not intended by Apple? You should also understand that millions of people are using Macs everyday and their data doesn't get lost, right? Because, if not, I can supply many-many stories where I would loose data because of stupid

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread Albert Graef
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Jörn Nettingsmeier < netti...@stackingdwarves.net> wrote: > Long story short: don't. Holy cow. I like funny war stories like these. Of course it's only funny if you're not bitten yourself. :( I feel with you. At least you got a 2013 MB which is still half-decen

Re: [LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread David Runge
On 2017-12-04 10:37:19 (+0100), Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > Long story short: don't. Holy... Glad you got your data at least. This would also freak me out a lot... -- https://sleepmap.de signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Linux-audio-dev m

[LAD] Forgive me, for I have sinned, or: toss your Macintosh, as fast and wide as you can.

2017-12-04 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
Here's me, having to deal with a 48 channel live recording over the course of six shows. Since my MADI gear is kinda heavy and the rental company had a Dante system on offer, I dusted off the 2013 Macbook pro I bought used, purchased a Dante virtual soundcard license from Audinate and happily t