Re: [LAD] [Fwd: Re: No nagging, a serious question]

2010-07-21 Thread Pieter Palmers
On 07/04/2010 11:16 PM, Dan Mills wrote: On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 22:56 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Good to read about this issue. I always disable the on-board audio devices, but I would add a second PCI card to my PC and sync it with the already installed sound card, so I better don't do it.

Re: [LAD] [Fwd: Re: No nagging, a serious question]

2010-07-21 Thread Niels Mayer
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Pieter Palmers piet...@joow.be wrote: I cannot help but noting that the 'most bone-headed way of doing low-latency audio' called firewire provides timestamps  related to the sample clock for midi messages (even each MIDI byte). The timestamps are valid accross

Re: [LAD] [Fwd: Re: No nagging, a serious question]

2010-07-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 19:08 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 04 July 2010, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 22:16 +0100, Dan Mills wrote: You could probably hack a multi serial port card to do multiple midi ports (Change the rock to give a suitable divider for 31250 baud

Re: [LAD] [Fwd: Re: No nagging, a serious question]

2010-07-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I'll search Ebay for several low-cost cards that are usable for 'pro-audio'. Thanx for the ice1712 list, btw. I just will search for the PCI ones, because IIRC all ALSA MIDI latency tests the people from Linux audio lists did were ok for PCI cards. USB failed most of the times or very often and

Re: [LAD] [Fwd: Re: No nagging, a serious question]

2010-07-05 Thread Chris Cannam
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote: IIRC, you can set the clock source on an ALSA sequence queue to be the clock based on a PCM device. You can, but I'm pretty sure last time I tested it (admittedly five or six years ago) I found that the resulting clock

[LAD] [Fwd: Re: No nagging, a serious question]

2010-07-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 21:52 +0100, Dan Mills wrote: Trying again, I accidentally sent this off list the first time So I can add, I anyway will test to use two PCI cards, at least for MIDI, for audio would be nice too. Forwarded Message From: Ralf Mardorf To: Dan Mills

Re: [LAD] [Fwd: Re: No nagging, a serious question]

2010-07-04 Thread Dan Mills
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 22:56 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Good to read about this issue. I always disable the on-board audio devices, but I would add a second PCI card to my PC and sync it with the already installed sound card, so I better don't do it. It at least would be nice to have several

Re: [LAD] [Fwd: Re: No nagging, a serious question]

2010-07-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 22:14 +0100, Dan Mills wrote: You could probably hack a multi serial port card to do multiple midi ports (Change the rock to give a suitable divider for 31250 baud (4MHz?), add current loop interfaces)... If one is fine with programming on Linux ;).

Re: [LAD] [Fwd: Re: No nagging, a serious question]

2010-07-04 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 22:16 +0100, Dan Mills wrote: You could probably hack a multi serial port card to do multiple midi ports (Change the rock to give a suitable divider for 31250 baud (4MHz?), add current loop interfaces)... Been there, done that - when I was a penniless dole-scrounging

Re: [LAD] [Fwd: Re: No nagging, a serious question]

2010-07-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 04 July 2010, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 22:16 +0100, Dan Mills wrote: You could probably hack a multi serial port card to do multiple midi ports (Change the rock to give a suitable divider for 31250 baud (4MHz?), add current loop interfaces)... Been there, done

Re: [LAD] [Fwd: Re: No nagging, a serious question]

2010-07-04 Thread Niels Mayer
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Good to read about this issue. I always disable the on-board audio devices, but I would add a second PCI card to my PC and sync it with the already installed sound card, so I better don't do it. It at least would be

Re: [LAD] [Fwd: Re: No nagging, a serious question]

2010-07-04 Thread Paul Davis
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Dan Mills dmi...@exponent.myzen.co.uk wrote: This sort of issue is what the ALSA midi sequencer is really intended to fix, by making midi timing a kernel problem rather then a user space one. the mistake there is that it makes the once-reasonable assumption that