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From: "Uwaysi Bin Kareem"
To: "Adrian Knoth"
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Subject: Re: [LAD] [LAU] Linux Audio 2012: Is Linux Audio moving forward?
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 10:06:45 +0200
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:58:33 +0200, Adrian Knoth
wrote:
On Wed, Oct 17
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 05:07:20PM +0200, Uwaysi Bin Kareem wrote:
> http://paradoxuncreated.com/Blog/wordpress/?p=2268
The site mentions:
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> sudo schedtool -p 98 -n -20 -F `pgrep X`
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Setting the X-server to FIFO/98 is just plain wrong, at least on an
audio maili
On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:16:01 +0200, Jonathan Woithe
wrote:
Hi Adrian
> The RME UCX and UFX devices are currently not supported by FFADO.
Adding
Though the UCX is not supported by FFADO, it is supported by ALSA if the
device is set to USB 2.0 class compliant mode.
That's neat. Has som
Jonathan Woithe wrote:
>> Though the UCX is not supported by FFADO, it is supported by ALSA if the
>> device is set to USB 2.0 class compliant mode.
>
> That's neat. Has someone tested and verified this (on the RME site it
> simply says that Linux should "theoretically work")?
Well, the differenc
Hi Adrian
> > The RME UCX and UFX devices are currently not supported by FFADO. Adding
>
> Though the UCX is not supported by FFADO, it is supported by ALSA if the
> device is set to USB 2.0 class compliant mode.
That's neat. Has someone tested and verified this (on the RME site it
simply says
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 04:12:37PM +1030, Jonathan Woithe wrote:
Hi!
> Over the next few years I expect thunderbolt interfaces to come to the fore
And even if not, one could still use an ordinary PCIe interface in a
thunderbolt-to-PCIe enclosure.
> The RME UCX and UFX devices are currently not
Hi Drew
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> Let's say I want at least 24 ins. What do I get?
I assume you're referring to 24 analog ins.
On Friday 12 October 2012, at 17.41.38, Nils Gey wrote:
[...]
> > > make more music
> > > make it public
> > > make other people want to use the same tools as you
[...]
> > On that note, some stuff I've done for one of my current projects, Kobo
> > II; chip themed music and sound effects:
> >
On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:19:18 +0200
David Olofson wrote:
> On Friday 12 October 2012, at 10.27.39, Nils Gey wrote:
> [...]
> > make more music
> > make it public
> > make other people want to use the same tools as you
> [...]
>
> On that note, some stuff I've done for one of my current projects,
On Friday 12 October 2012, at 10.27.39, Nils Gey wrote:
[...]
> make more music
> make it public
> make other people want to use the same tools as you
[...]
On that note, some stuff I've done for one of my current projects, Kobo II;
chip themed music and sound effects:
http://soundcloud.
On , Nils Gey wrote:
For my part the conclusion is
make more music
make it public
make other people want to use the same tools as you
Sounds fair enough, I bumped into this guys soundcloud yesterday:
http://soundcloud.com/macrowave
Talking about music that will make you bop your head
So, now that this thread shifted into a hardware/driver discussion and the
flood of answers has stopped:
Have we learned anything from it?
For my part the conclusion is
make more music
make it public
make other people want to use the same tools as you
Nils
__
Sure, John.
I did not try to organize this. It might be possible, of course, in theory.
And maybe it is one of the solutions - to have a place (possibly like
kickstarter)
where we can organize driver jobs. I don't know how realistic this is
though, but
could be worth a try.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 a
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 05:31:19PM +0400, Louigi Verona wrote:
> Speaking of hardware drivers, long time ago I wrote this article on
> E-MU 0404 USB:
> http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=projects&s=writings&t=linux&a=linux_emu0404usb
>
> For a long time it was my mostly read article. Some people the
Le Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:48:50 +0100,
Harry van Haaren a écrit :
> Replying to nobody in particular but perhaps bringing some new things
> to the table:
>
> I feel there's a lot going on "just-under-the-surface" of what most
> of us know about. I presume not everybody here is aware of the
> advanc
Speaking of hardware drivers, long time ago I wrote this article on
E-MU 0404 USB:
http://www.louigiverona.ru/?page=projects&s=writings&t=linux&a=linux_emu0404usb
For a long time it was my mostly read article. Some people theorized
that it is possible to make the soundcard working, but my tests ha
On 10/11/12 13:42, John Rigg wrote:
> Another cheap option is a used RME HDSP9652 (also still being made)
> with 3xADAT I/O. The PCIe alternative is the HDSPe RayDAT mentioned
> elsewhere in this thread.
>
> Going up the price scale there are RME MADI cards, both PCI and PCIe
> versions. I used a
On Thursday 11 October 2012 07:42:22 John Rigg wrote:
First, thanks Adrian for the RayDay mention, and thanks John for this info.
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:01:23PM -0400, drew Roberts wrote:
> > Let's say I want at least 24 ins.
> >
> > What do I get? Where can I find a HOWTO on my options?
>
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:01:23PM -0400, drew Roberts wrote:
> Let's say I want at least 24 ins.
>
> What do I get? Where can I find a HOWTO on my options?
Here's a HOWTO on using multiple Delta 1010s (which can also be adapted
for other cards):
http://www.jrigg.co.uk/linuxaudio/ice1712multi.ht
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:01:23PM -0400, drew Roberts wrote:
[24 I/Os]
> Are there cards that are just in essence adat I/O cards (I am ignorant enough
> here not to know the correct term for what I am asking) that can handle 3(+)
> adat lightpipe connections?
Yep. RME RayDAT. Exactly what I ha
On Wednesday 10 October 2012 19:00:42 Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
> the only time it hurts is when i cannot get hardware support for gear
> that i need. but these days, i can get linux drivers for everything from
> 2 to 128 channels of i/o (more if i'm prepared to gang cards), so what's
> the problem
On Thu, October 11, 2012 10:00 am, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
> On 10/10/2012 11:00 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, October 11, 2012 7:25 am, Louigi Verona wrote:
>>> @Patrick:
>>>
>>> "The problem with that approach is that it tends to feed the negative
>>> attitude towards Linux and that
On 10/11/2012 07:25 AM, Louigi Verona wrote:
There is no competition, Patrick. Windows Audio does not compete with
Linux Audio. Only if in our minds. And thus they do not want anything.
There is no Windows Audio community, there is a Linux Audio community.
We try to compete with them. They do no
There are good things as well.
For music notation Linux is at least equal to any other system except the
handwriting of a 19th century professional.
For the advanced stuff and music that is really meant to be published as print
product there is of course Lilypond which still beats all other pro
On 10/10/2012 11:00 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
On Thu, October 11, 2012 7:25 am, Louigi Verona wrote:
@Patrick:
"The problem with that approach is that it tends to feed the negative
attitude towards Linux and that is exactly what the "competition" want."
There is no competition, Patrick. Wind
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 2:48 AM, Harry van Haaren wrote:
> The other things I feel is necessary is to bundle the community together: We
> need to agree on one place to post information: a central hub for
> linux-audio.
Amen to that :)
P.S. Oh, and I do owe you a private reply on a relevant topic
Replying to nobody in particular but perhaps bringing some new things to
the table:
I feel there's a lot going on "just-under-the-surface" of what most of us
know about. I presume not everybody here is aware of the advances FAUST has
recently made in DomainSpecificLanguage technology. Similary I'm
"I'm not talking about Linux Multimedia for amateur users or even
necessarily for artists/producers. I'm talking about businesses that use
Linux as their revenue generating platform."
Fair enough. I have no idea about businesses.
"Don't you mean that because "insert favorite application/plugin" i
On Thu, October 11, 2012 7:25 am, Louigi Verona wrote:
> @Patrick:
>
> "The problem with that approach is that it tends to feed the negative
> attitude towards Linux and that is exactly what the "competition" want."
>
> There is no competition, Patrick. Windows Audio does not compete with
> Linux
@Patrick:
"The problem with that approach is that it tends to feed the negative
attitude towards Linux and that is exactly what the "competition" want."
There is no competition, Patrick. Windows Audio does not compete with
Linux Audio. Only if in our minds. And thus they do not want anything.
Th
On Thu, October 11, 2012 6:52 am, Louigi Verona wrote:
> @Folderol:
>
> "While it is nice to have lots of different apps, plugins, whatever, I
> think you
> find most musicians quickly settle on a very small range which they get to
> know
> extremely well."
>
> This is true. However, before you se
On Thu, October 11, 2012 5:41 am, Dan MacDonald wrote:
> Patrick wrote:
>
>>
>> Looking at the recent trade shows it seems that Linux/Unix is the
>> already
>> the hardware standard. I didn't spot hardware running on Apple or M$
>> OS's
>> but plenty of Linux and Unix platforms.
>>
>>
> Which trad
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:04 PM, J. Liles wrote:
> [ ... ] but that's understandable considering that most Linux Audio
> programs are maintained by single developers (with lots of other projects)
> or small groups.
>
[ ... ]
> My personal frustration with Linux Audio is mainly focused on t
On Wednesday 10 October 2012 14:21:11 Patrick Shirkey did opine:
> On Wed, October 10, 2012 11:33 pm, Ben Loftis wrote:
> > I'd pose a different question:
> >
> > Is OSX/Win Audio moving _backward_?
> >
> > If OSX continues to move towards iOS, and Win continues to move
> > towards Metro, and T
On Wed, October 10, 2012 11:33 pm, Ben Loftis wrote:
>
> I'd pose a different question:
>
> Is OSX/Win Audio moving _backward_?
>
> If OSX continues to move towards iOS, and Win continues to move towards
> Metro, and Thunderbolt stalls, and screens get smaller, and expansion
> ports get scarcer,
Now that I am a little less zealous about free software (which is a
different discussion anyway), I might just try Renoise out.
I am rather tired of tracker interface. Does Renoise have a piano roll?
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:11 PM, James Mckernon wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Louigi
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Louigi Verona wrote:
> Hello Ben!
>
> I'd like to answer your question: Is OSX/Win Audio moving _backward_?
>
> In the most general sense my answer would be a no.
>
in the general sense, sure. but Ben wasn't referring to the general sense.
if you're on the "inside
Hello Ben!
I'd like to answer your question: Is OSX/Win Audio moving _backward_?
In the most general sense my answer would be a no.
It is like being in a process of building a house and looking at your
neighbour who has already built a house and saying - "hm, his building
process seems to be goin
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Dan MacDonald wrote:
> Hi LV!
>
> Nice and interesting write up of your experiences and opinions there. I
> agree with most all of it except:
>
> "Saving projects is still a huge problem. In addition to LADISH we do now
> have NSM, the Non-Session Manager, which s
Hey Dan!
"Saving projects is only tricky if you use the modular approach versus
instrument plugins hence this isn't really a problem for A3 and qtractor."
True, but since there are very few plugins, most power of Linux Audio today
is not in its plugin collection ;)
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:09 P
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