Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-18 Thread James Morris
On 15 June 2010 20:23, Harry Van Haaren harryhaa...@gmail.com wrote: Hey James, ... Anyway, where can we find out more about your project? I'd have some MIDI / JACK MIDI gtk Ok I've got it on github now: http://github.com/jwm-art-net/BoxySeq i keep trying to add a new README.run file

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-18 Thread James Morris
On 18 June 2010 11:06, James Morris ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: On 15 June 2010 20:23, Harry Van Haaren harryhaa...@gmail.com wrote: Hey James, ... Anyway, where can we find out more about your project? I'd have some MIDI / JACK MIDI gtk Ok I've got it on github now:

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 16 June 2010, Patrick Shirkey wrote: On 06/17/2010 04:52 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Paul Davis wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: PS: Why not programming for savant syndrome musical

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 16 June 2010, Philipp Überbacher wrote: Excerpts from Gene Heskett's message of 2010-06-17 00:45:14 +0200: [...] I fear something named simply 'emc' isn't easy to find around the net. Try

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Btw. when 'we' some old dino computer freaks controlled stepper motors by DOS machines, we just controlled remoted pics (oldish micro controllers - but not very old -, I guess you would use DSPs or other micro controllers today, but would you use your MacOS, Windows, Linux instead of

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-17 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Gene Heskett's message of 2010-06-17 01:32:00 +0200: On Wednesday 16 June 2010, Philipp Überbacher wrote: Excerpts from Gene Heskett's message of 2010-06-17 00:45:14 +0200: [...] I fear something named simply 'emc' isn't easy to find around the net. Try

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Philipp Überbacher wrote: Excerpts from Gene Heskett's message of 2010-06-17 01:32:00 +0200: On Wednesday 16 June 2010, Philipp Überbacher wrote: Excerpts from Gene Heskett's message of 2010-06-17 00:45:14 +0200: [...] I fear something named simply 'emc' isn't easy to

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Ralf Mardorf wrote: Philipp Überbacher wrote: Excerpts from Gene Heskett's message of 2010-06-17 01:32:00 +0200: On Wednesday 16 June 2010, Philipp Überbacher wrote: Excerpts from Gene Heskett's message of 2010-06-17 00:45:14 +0200: [...] I fear something named simply

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Philipp Überbacher wrote: At my school we transfered the CAD files per floppy to a DOS box that controlled the CNC machine, guess that's for the same reason, bad rt capabilities of newer OSes and machines. PPS: CNC machines are very expensive. Even if newer OSes and machines should be

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-17 Thread James Morris
All very fascinating I'm sure. ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 17 June 2010, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 16 June 2010, Patrick Shirkey wrote: On 06/17/2010 04:52 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Paul Davis wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: PS: Why not programming for

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 17 June 2010, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Btw. when 'we' some old dino computer freaks controlled stepper motors by DOS machines, we just controlled remoted pics (oldish micro controllers - but not very old -, I guess you would use DSPs or other micro controllers today, but would you use

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 17 June 2010, Philipp Überbacher wrote: Excerpts from Gene Heskett's message of 2010-06-17 01:32:00 +0200: On Wednesday 16 June 2010, Philipp Überbacher wrote: Excerpts from Gene Heskett's message of 2010-06-17 00:45:14 +0200: [...] I fear something named simply 'emc' isn't easy

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 17 June 2010, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Philipp Überbacher wrote: Excerpts from Gene Heskett's message of 2010-06-17 01:32:00 +0200: On Wednesday 16 June 2010, Philipp Überbacher wrote: Excerpts from Gene Heskett's message of 2010-06-17 00:45:14 +0200: [...] I fear something named

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-17 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 00:08 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Don't believe me, but ask some classic musicians to do some MIDI recordings using Linux + external equipment (internal Linux MIDI is ok) and then ask them, if they are fine with the result. Do it with Windows, or Mac OSX for that

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Gordon JC Pearce wrote: On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 00:08 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Don't believe me, but ask some classic musicians to do some MIDI recordings using Linux + external equipment (internal Linux MIDI is ok) and then ask them, if they are fine with the result. Do it with

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-16 Thread Arnold Krille
On Tuesday 15 June 2010 17:55:56 Paul Davis wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:27 AM, James Morris ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: Incidentally, if I want the GUI to update very close to real time, say a grid of blocks flashing on and off as notes come and go, any thoughts? Would a GTK GUI update

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Arnold Krille wrote: On Tuesday 15 June 2010 17:55:56 Paul Davis wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:27 AM, James Morris ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: Incidentally, if I want the GUI to update very close to real time, say a grid of blocks flashing on and off as notes come and go, any

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Ralf Mardorf wrote: Arnold Krille wrote: On Tuesday 15 June 2010 17:55:56 Paul Davis wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:27 AM, James Morris ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: Incidentally, if I want the GUI to update very close to real time, say a grid of blocks flashing on and off as notes come

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-16 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: PS: Why not programming for savant syndrome musical gifted and 'fast' watching people too? the limits under discussion relate to monitor technology, not human capabilities.

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Paul Davis wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: PS: Why not programming for savant syndrome musical gifted and 'fast' watching people too? the limits under discussion relate to monitor technology, not human capabilities. I'm not

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Paul Davis wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: PS: Why not programming for savant syndrome musical gifted and 'fast' watching people too? the limits under discussion relate to monitor technology, not human capabilities. 100 Hz

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-16 Thread hermann
Am Mittwoch, den 16.06.2010, 21:48 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: Paul Davis wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: PS: Why not programming for savant syndrome musical gifted and 'fast' watching people too? the limits under

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-16 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 06/17/2010 04:52 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Paul Davis wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: PS: Why not programming for savant syndrome musical gifted and 'fast' watching people too? the limits under discussion relate to monitor technology,

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
hermann wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 16.06.2010, 21:48 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: Paul Davis wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: PS: Why not programming for savant syndrome musical gifted and 'fast' watching people too?

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Patrick Shirkey wrote: On 06/17/2010 04:52 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Paul Davis wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: PS: Why not programming for savant syndrome musical gifted and 'fast' watching people too? the limits under discussion relate

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Patrick Shirkey wrote: On 06/17/2010 04:52 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Paul Davis wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: PS: Why not programming for savant syndrome musical gifted and 'fast' watching people too? the limits under discussion relate

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Ralf Mardorf wrote: Patrick Shirkey wrote: On 06/17/2010 04:52 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Paul Davis wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: PS: Why not programming for savant syndrome musical gifted and 'fast' watching people too? the limits

[LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
A PPPscriptum: When I programmed for 65xx and 68xxx CPUs on Basic + Assembler I did count process cycles for the op codes. Do you know exactly what the result is, after you compiled your C code? Don't believe me, but ask some classic musicians to do some MIDI recordings

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 June 2010, Patrick Shirkey wrote: On 06/17/2010 04:52 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Paul Davis wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: PS: Why not programming for savant syndrome musical gifted and 'fast' watching people too? the

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-16 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Gene Heskett's message of 2010-06-17 00:45:14 +0200: On Wednesday 16 June 2010, Patrick Shirkey wrote: On 06/17/2010 04:52 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Paul Davis wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: PS: Why not programming for

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 June 2010, Philipp Überbacher wrote: Excerpts from Gene Heskett's message of 2010-06-17 00:45:14 +0200: [...] I fear something named simply 'emc' isn't easy to find around the net. Try http://www.linuxcnc.org/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-emc2-aj07-i386.iso -- Cheers, Gene There

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 June 2010, Harry Van Haaren wrote: Go see http://wiki.linuxcnc.net, The link you posted doesnt work. It's a .org i think: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org Cheers, -Harry Working from wet ram and its 75 years old, what can I plead except oldtimers. ;-) -- Cheers, Gene There are four

[LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-15 Thread James Morris
Hi, Is it common experience when (design/code/test module repeat) a real time audio or (as in my case) MIDI application, that, as soon as you finally solve a problem that's been bugging you for ages, and take a step forward, you immediately step upon another whopping great pile of @#$!??? It's

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-15 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:27 AM, James Morris ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: Incidentally, if I want the GUI to update very close to real time, say a grid of blocks flashing on and off as notes come and go, any thoughts? Would a GTK GUI update fast enough? key insight: your display monitor only

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-15 Thread James Morris
On 15 June 2010 16:55, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:27 AM, James Morris ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: Incidentally, if I want the GUI to update very close to real time, say a grid of blocks flashing on and off as notes come and go, any thoughts? Would a

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-15 Thread Harry Van Haaren
Hey James, Lots of idea's going around there anyways.. Thats great. Its been a while since I've been appealed by the custom widget craze, but you got me intrested enough to relpy... I quite like the way one can write custom widgets in GTK. It involves some small steps, but once you've got your

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-15 Thread James Morris
On 15 June 2010 20:23, Harry Van Haaren harryhaa...@gmail.com wrote: Hey James, Lots of idea's going around there anyways.. Thats great. Its been a while since I've been appealed by the custom widget craze, but you got me intrested enough to relpy... I quite like the way one can write

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-15 Thread Harry Van Haaren
Hey, I decided to throw up a github repo of my JACK MIDI stuff, (only one simple (bad) app so far), but I intend to improve it as I learn PThreads properly and things like jack_ringbuffer. http://github.com/harryhaaren/JACK-MIDI-Examples My Gtkmm Widgets are zipped and on the way to you.

Re: [LAD] audio/midi app development

2010-06-15 Thread Tim E. Real
On June 15, 2010 02:40:30 pm James Morris wrote: On 15 June 2010 16:55, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:27 AM, James Morris ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: Incidentally, if I want the GUI to update very close to real time, say a grid of blocks flashing on