On 09/16/2010 02:18 AM, Niels Mayer wrote:
This looks like a better mouse-knob interactor, e.g. use the mouse for
pointing/selecting, and then use this knob for simultaneously
controlling multiple parameters on the selected channel at once.
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Olivier Guilyardi l...@samalyse.com wrote:
I quite like it when it's minimal, not too realistic. It reminds be a bit of
the
memory/swap meters in the Gnome System Monitor:
http://testing.samalyse.com/lad/widgets/system_monitor.png
the one issue i have with
On 09/16/2010 05:01 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Olivier Guilyardi l...@samalyse.com wrote:
I quite like it when it's minimal, not too realistic. It reminds be a bit of
the
memory/swap meters in the Gnome System Monitor:
On 09/16/2010 02:18 AM, Niels Mayer wrote:
This looks like a better mouse-knob interactor, e.g. use the mouse for
pointing/selecting, and then use this knob for simultaneously
controlling multiple parameters on the selected channel at once.
In regard to controlling several parameters with a
On 14.09.2010 22:49, Olivier Guilyardi wrote:
I would quite like to have a look at your knob, but ardour3 r7775 segfaults
here, right after clicking on Apply in the New Session dialog. Attached: output
and backtrace.
I wanted to try Ardour3 too and had the same problem. Ardour, at least
for
On 09/15/2010 09:38 AM, Igor Brkic wrote:
On 14.09.2010 22:49, Olivier Guilyardi wrote:
I would quite like to have a look at your knob, but ardour3 r7775
segfaults
here, right after clicking on Apply in the New Session dialog.
Attached: output
and backtrace.
I wanted to try Ardour3 too
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Olivier Guilyardi l...@samalyse.com wrote:
On 09/15/2010 09:38 AM, Igor Brkic wrote:
On 14.09.2010 22:49, Olivier Guilyardi wrote:
I would quite like to have a look at your knob, but ardour3 r7775
segfaults
here, right after clicking on Apply in the New
On 09/14/2010 06:45 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Johannes Kroll jkr...@lavabit.com wrote:
Juce uses its antialiased drawing code to draw the knob. This requires
no image resources and enables displaying the rotation precisely, it
can be scaled and it's themable (by
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Olivier Guilyardi l...@samalyse.com wrote:
I would quite like to have a look at your knob, but ardour3 r7775 segfaults
here, right after clicking on Apply in the New Session dialog. Attached:
output
and backtrace.
This issue has been fixed as of rev 7780
This looks like a better mouse-knob interactor, e.g. use the mouse for
pointing/selecting, and then use this knob for simultaneously
controlling multiple parameters on the selected channel at once.
http://www.3dconnexion.com/products/spacenavigator.html
push, pull, twist or tilt
someone needs to
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 22:14 +0200, Olivier Guilyardi wrote:
For the default rendering of the blue part, using
GtkStyle.bg[GDK_STATE_SELECTED] seems to make sense since it renders to a
color
(blue, brown, etc..) in many modern themes. However, in some other themes,
it's
just another shade
On 09/14/2010 09:14 AM, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 22:14 +0200, Olivier Guilyardi wrote:
For the default rendering of the blue part, using
GtkStyle.bg[GDK_STATE_SELECTED] seems to make sense since it renders to a
color
(blue, brown, etc..) in many modern themes. However,
On 09/14/2010 05:07 AM, hermann wrote:
Okay, when you have generic Desktop rc-style files in mind, maybe libgxw
isn't the solution, I have more something like this in mind:
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/5087/screenshot027x.png
I guess with a ordinary GTK RC Desktop style file it will
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:39:05 +0200
Olivier Guilyardi l...@samalyse.com wrote:
On 09/11/2010 10:45 PM, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
On Sat, 2010-09-11 at 19:36 +0200, Olivier Guilyardi wrote:
Also, the phat knob, with its large orange/blue border provides better
visualization IMO. I am
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Johannes Kroll jkr...@lavabit.com wrote:
Juce uses its antialiased drawing code to draw the knob. This requires
no image resources and enables displaying the rotation precisely, it
can be scaled and it's themable (by changing the colours). I think it's
a good
On 09/13/2010 04:43 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Olivier Guilyardi l...@samalyse.com wrote:
On 09/13/2010 04:25 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Olivier Guilyardi l...@samalyse.com
wrote:
On 09/12/2010 02:05 PM, Loki Davison wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Olivier Guilyardi l...@samalyse.com wrote:
I would quite like to have a look at your knob, but ardour3 r7775 segfaults
here, right after clicking on Apply in the New Session dialog. Attached:
output
and backtrace.
we are not ready to support ardour3 yet. if
On 09/12/2010 02:05 PM, Loki Davison wrote:
Thorsten's design is as always fantastic. :)
Agreed, it's a a shame his new knob designs at
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/?s=knobs were never implemented. I think they're
very cool and somehow remind me of Live knobs.
I'd think about doing more on
On 09/13/2010 04:25 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Olivier Guilyardi l...@samalyse.com wrote:
On 09/12/2010 02:05 PM, Loki Davison wrote:
Thorsten's design is as always fantastic. :)
Agreed, it's a a shame his new knob designs at
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/?s=knobs
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Olivier Guilyardi l...@samalyse.com wrote:
On 09/12/2010 02:05 PM, Loki Davison wrote:
Thorsten's design is as always fantastic. :)
Agreed, it's a a shame his new knob designs at
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/?s=knobs were never implemented. I think they're
On 09/13/2010 04:43 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Olivier Guilyardi l...@samalyse.com wrote:
On 09/13/2010 04:25 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Olivier Guilyardi l...@samalyse.com
wrote:
On 09/12/2010 02:05 PM, Loki Davison wrote:
On Sun, 2010-09-12 at 12:39 +0200, Olivier Guilyardi wrote:
In regard to phat, if only the SVG, or XCF, or whatever sources were on svn,
that would allow to tune the colors, the size, etc... Maybe that the solution
is
to redraw it in Inkscape.
The source is a Blender file. Peter Shorthose
On 09/10/2010 06:06 PM, hermann wrote:
Am Freitag, den 10.09.2010, 14:32 +0200 schrieb Olivier Guilyardi:
Well, as I previously said, I think that knobs can make sense in
certain
situations. So I'd rather see the phat knob improved ;) I think that's
a really
cool widget, it provides a very
Am Samstag, den 11.09.2010, 19:36 +0200 schrieb Olivier Guilyardi:
On 09/10/2010 06:06 PM, hermann wrote:
Am Freitag, den 10.09.2010, 14:32 +0200 schrieb Olivier Guilyardi:
Well, as I previously said, I think that knobs can make sense in
certain
situations. So I'd rather see the phat knob
On Sat, 2010-09-11 at 19:36 +0200, Olivier Guilyardi wrote:
Also, the phat knob, with its large orange/blue border provides better
visualization IMO. I am however quite sad that in both cases, phat and libgxw,
no SVG source is provided.
--
Olivier
That's the knob animation I use in
On 09/10/2010 02:37 AM, Loki Davison wrote:
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Olivier Guilyardi l...@samalyse.com wrote:
Actually, I used the fansliders before, in the very same place :) But there
were
two things that I didn't like:
- the way they look, especially when unfolded, those
Am Freitag, den 10.09.2010, 14:32 +0200 schrieb Olivier Guilyardi:
Well, as I previously said, I think that knobs can make sense in
certain
situations. So I'd rather see the phat knob improved ;) I think that's
a really
cool widget, it provides a very clear visual indication, but it only
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 20:44 +0100, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
That's a funny thing, because I've been looking at some radio equipment
with a big rotary knob to scroll through menu options. Turning the knob
clockwise moves the pointer up, and turning it anti-clockwise moves it
down - utterly
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Olivier Guilyardi l...@samalyse.com wrote:
On 09/07/2010 09:58 PM, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 21:44 +0200, Olivier Guilyardi wrote:
I have been working on an experimental slider in Jackbeat. When untouched
it is
very small, but big enough
On Wednesday 08 September 2010 10:35:56 Philipp Überbacher wrote:
Excerpts from Arnold Krille's message of 2010-09-08 00:01:30 +0200:
And if you really need to save space: Use it like a slider, paint it as a
color-field with the value as number and color...
That's actually a neat idea,
On 09/08/2010 12:46 AM, Tim E. Real wrote:
However, I would like to share with you a 'patented' (he he)
technique I developed a long time ago:
I am contesting the patent, I did start to work on the same idea two years ago
:p
When the mouse cursor goes to the edge of the screen you
have
Previously:
That's actually a neat idea, color for immediate visual feedback. I
imagine the problem is the colors. What would be sane? I guess three
basic colors and interpolate between them?
low = blue
middle = yellow
high = top
It needs to be rather intuitive. I guess the more colors the less
Excerpts from Andrew Bryant's message of 2010-09-08 16:35:31 +0200:
Previously:
That's actually a neat idea, color for immediate visual feedback. I
imagine the problem is the colors. What would be sane? I guess three
basic colors and interpolate between them?
low = blue
middle = yellow
On 08/09/10 16:36, Philipp Überbacher wrote:
Snip
I suggest you keep it simple, i.e. only two colours if possible, but
make them configurable for the benefit of those with visual disabilities.
Andrew Bryant
I wondered about that part too, especially about color blind people.
I don't
On Wednesday 08 September 2010 16:35:31 Andrew Bryant wrote:
Previously:
That's actually a neat idea, color for immediate visual feedback. I
imagine the problem is the colors. What would be sane? I guess three
basic colors and interpolate between them?
low = blue
middle = yellow
high
Excerpts from Arnold Krille's message of 2010-09-08 19:18:54 +0200:
On Wednesday 08 September 2010 16:35:31 Andrew Bryant wrote:
Previously:
That's actually a neat idea, color for immediate visual feedback. I
imagine the problem is the colors. What would be sane? I guess three
basic
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 01:06:06 +0200
Olivier Guilyardi l...@samalyse.com wrote:
snip
But, there's nothing absolute about this. If it's about inspiration then it's
highly subjective. For example, I just spent about a full week composing a
song
on Renoise. It has plenty of those little boxes
Hi,
On Wednesday 08 September 2010 21:06:29 Philipp Überbacher wrote:
Excerpts from Arnold Krille's message of 2010-09-08 19:18:54 +0200:
On Wednesday 08 September 2010 16:35:31 Andrew Bryant wrote:
Previously:
That's actually a neat idea, color for immediate visual feedback. I
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Arnold Krille arn...@arnoldarts.de wrote:
The one the user choose for his desktop. Which is the only real way to
compensate for visually impaired people (if thats the political correct name).
I don't like this every-app-chooses-its-own-colors at all. Though I do
Excerpts from Arnold Krille's message of 2010-09-08 22:02:10 +0200:
Hi,
On Wednesday 08 September 2010 21:06:29 Philipp Überbacher wrote:
Excerpts from Arnold Krille's message of 2010-09-08 19:18:54 +0200:
On Wednesday 08 September 2010 16:35:31 Andrew Bryant wrote:
Previously:
On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 10:19:50PM +0200, Philipp Überbacher wrote:
I don't know of any way to set a system wide color scheme of any sort. I
know of different toolkits using their specific settings, and that's as
close to a system color theme as I'm aware of. I did switch to a dark
theme and
Hi,
On Wednesday 08 September 2010 22:15:33 Paul Davis wrote:
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Arnold Krille arn...@arnoldarts.de wrote:
The one the user choose for his desktop. Which is the only real way to
compensate for visually impaired people (if thats the political correct
name). I
Hi,
On Wednesday 08 September 2010 23:24:01 Arnold Krille wrote:
I did a quick test with ffado-mixer, the first screenshot is the current
version with black-blue-green-yellow-red, the second is the
window-shadow-dark-light- highlight version:
On 22:37 Wed 08 Sep , f...@kokkinizita.net wrote:
On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 10:19:50PM +0200, Philipp ?berbacher wrote:
I don't know of any way to set a system wide color scheme of any sort. I
know of different toolkits using their specific settings, and that's as
close to a system
Excerpts from fons's message of 2010-09-08 22:37:54 +0200:
On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 10:19:50PM +0200, Philipp Überbacher wrote:
I don't know of any way to set a system wide color scheme of any sort. I
know of different toolkits using their specific settings, and that's as
close to a system
Excerpts from Arnold Krille's message of 2010-09-08 22:46:52 +0200:
On Wednesday 08 September 2010 22:19:50 Philipp Überbacher wrote:
Excerpts from Arnold Krille's message of 2010-09-08 22:02:10 +0200:
Hi,
On Wednesday 08 September 2010 21:06:29 Philipp Überbacher wrote:
Excerpts
On Thursday 09 September 2010 00:32:18 Olivier Guilyardi wrote:
On 09/08/2010 11:37 PM, Arnold Krille wrote:
http://positron.physik.uni-halle.de/~arnold/fadercolors-system_colors-won
ton.png
http://positron.physik.uni-halle.de/~arnold/fadercolors-system_colors-ob
sidian.png
Sorry but
This is going to stir up a bit of discussion!
Rotary knob GUI elements - should you move the mouse in a circle to
operate them, or up and down? What about side to side?
Gordon MM0YEQ
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On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
This is going to stir up a bit of discussion!
Rotary knob GUI elements - should you move the mouse in a circle to
operate them, or up and down? What about side to side?
My opinion...
circle: no.
up and down: yes.
scroll wheel: yes.
left and
Excerpts from Gordon JC Pearce's message of 2010-09-07 20:20:10 +0200:
This is going to stir up a bit of discussion!
Rotary knob GUI elements - should you move the mouse in a circle to
operate them, or up and down? What about side to side?
Gordon MM0YEQ
Imho everything's better than in
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:23:17 -0500 (CDT)
Gabriel M. Beddingfield gabrb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
This is going to stir up a bit of discussion!
Rotary knob GUI elements - should you move the mouse in a circle to
operate them, or up and down?
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, hermann wrote:
up ad down: strg + mouse
strangle + mouse ??
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On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:34:50 -0500 (CDT)
Gabriel M. Beddingfield gabrb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, hermann wrote:
up ad down: strg + mouse
strangle + mouse ??
Very appropriate!
--
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http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange
Am Dienstag, den 07.09.2010, 13:34 -0500 schrieb Gabriel M.
Beddingfield:
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, hermann wrote:
up ad down: strg + mouse
strangle + mouse ??
ups, German keyboard, :-))
ctrl + mouse I mean
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On 09/07/2010 08:25 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield
gabrb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
This is going to stir up a bit of discussion!
Rotary knob GUI elements - should you move the mouse in a
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Olivier Guilyardi l...@samalyse.com wrote:
Hello everyone,
On 09/07/2010 08:25 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
i like distance scaling - the further the mouse is from the center of
the knob, the coarser the changes in response to whatever motion
drives changes.
I
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield
gabrb...@gmail.com wrote:
circle: no.
up and down: yes.
scroll wheel: yes.
left and right: up to you.
Agreed on all counts. Of course you can make them respond to
horizontal motion as well, without screwing up people who expect
vertical
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 19:34 +0100, Folderol wrote:
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:23:17 -0500 (CDT)
Gabriel M. Beddingfield gabrb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
This is going to stir up a bit of discussion!
Rotary knob GUI elements - should you move
On 09/07/2010 08:34 PM, Folderol wrote:
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 13:23:17 -0500 (CDT)
Gabriel M. Beddingfield gabrb...@gmail.com wrote:
circle: no.
up and down: yes.
scroll wheel: yes.
left and right: up to you.
Hate the things. Would much prefer a neat collection of sliders and/or
spin
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 20:24 +0100, Chris Cannam wrote:
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield
gabrb...@gmail.com wrote:
circle: no.
up and down: yes.
scroll wheel: yes.
left and right: up to you.
Agreed on all counts. Of course you can make them respond to
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 21:44 +0200, Olivier Guilyardi wrote:
I have been working on an experimental slider in Jackbeat. When untouched it
is
very small, but big enough to see what the level is. When you click and hold
on
it, it unfolds (becomes much bigger), and the mouse changes the level
On 09/07/2010 09:58 PM, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 21:44 +0200, Olivier Guilyardi wrote:
I have been working on an experimental slider in Jackbeat. When untouched it
is
very small, but big enough to see what the level is. When you click and hold
on
it, it unfolds
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Gordon JC Pearce gordon...@gjcp.net wrote:
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 20:24 +0100, Chris Cannam wrote:
test some rotary controllers to remind myself which behaviour my hand
expects, and it turns out it's up = clockwise.
That's a funny thing, because I've been
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 07:20:10PM +0100, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
This is going to stir up a bit of discussion!
Rotary knob GUI elements - should you move the mouse in a circle to
operate them, or up and down? What about side to side?
The ones I'm using on some (unpublished ATM) apps and
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:18 PM, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote:
The important thing with rotary controls is that everything
should be relative.
True, but also true of (computer GUI, rather than real) faders.
Dragging the mouse should give the impression of dragging the control,
rather than
Hello Fons,
On 09/07/2010 10:18 PM, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote:
The nice thing about rotary controls - both real and sofrware
- is that they provide a very good quick visual indication of
the current state, something a spinbox well never do, while
linear controls require much more space.
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 22:35 +0200, Olivier Guilyardi wrote:
That said, I reckon that adding a few knobs here and there looks cool :) It
can
bring some graphical balance and eye-candy, which may be very important. When
you make music, the UI look feel has some emotional influence on you.
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 09:31:08PM +0100, Chris Cannam wrote:
True, but also true of (computer GUI, rather than real) faders.
Dragging the mouse should give the impression of dragging the control,
rather than clicking the element instantly positioning the control.
I agree.
Aside from a
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
I've said this all along - photorealistic GUIs for softsynths *aren't*
pointless eyecandy. How the app looks materially affects the way we
respond to it and how we perceive its behaviour. In an informal and
This is true. Thank you for
On Tuesday 07 September 2010 20:20:10 Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
This is going to stir up a bit of discussion!
Rotary knob GUI elements - should you move the mouse in a circle to
operate them, or up and down? What about side to side?
rotary-movement: Fire up paint. Try to draw 5 perfect
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:18 PM, fons wrote:
...
BTW, the main reason why mixers have linear faders is *space*.
A really big rotary knob provides much better control than any
linear fader. But it doesn't allow a for design with just a few
centimeters per channel strip. So as mixer channel
On September 7, 2010 02:20:10 pm Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
This is going to stir up a bit of discussion!
Rotary knob GUI elements - should you move the mouse in a circle to
operate them, or up and down? What about side to side?
Gordon MM0YEQ
A quick check of our MusE knobs shows it's
On 09/07/2010 10:51 PM, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 22:35 +0200, Olivier Guilyardi wrote:
That said, I reckon that adding a few knobs here and there looks cool :) It
can
bring some graphical balance and eye-candy, which may be very important. When
you make music, the UI
Am Dienstag, den 07.09.2010, 19:20 +0100 schrieb Gordon JC Pearce:
This is going to stir up a bit of discussion!
Rotary knob GUI elements - should you move the mouse in a circle to
operate them, or up and down? What about side to side?
Gordon MM0YEQ
Like I said before, I prefer the
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