Re: [LAD] Open Source Design (paid and pro bono design)

2018-11-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2018-11-29 at 18:02 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > On 29/11/2018 17.32, Louigi Verona wrote: > > Interesting that on their goals page they never mention "users" or > > "customers". So how are they going to understand what works if users are > > never consulted? > > That's clearly up to

Re: [LAD] Open Source Design (paid and pro bono design)

2018-11-29 Thread Spencer Jackson
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 10:28 AM Paul Davis wrote: > > Lisp is an excellent user interface, for the right kind of user. > Good point, Paul. I was mostly lauding the article's main principle that adding a preference has a cost and it's worth evaluating the benefit of each preference offered in a

Re: [LAD] Open Source Design (paid and pro bono design)

2018-11-29 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 12:24 PM Spencer Jackson wrote: > https://ometer.com/preferences.html was also very good. I plan to read > more later. > "Lisp is not a good user interface." this is a fallacy. Lisp is an excellent user interface, for the right kind of user. Knowing who you are

Re: [LAD] Open Source Design (paid and pro bono design)

2018-11-29 Thread Spencer Jackson
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 9:33 AM Louigi Verona wrote: > Interesting that on their goals page they never mention "users" or > "customers". So how are they going to understand what works if users are > never consulted? This could be a mistake that would make the whole > initiative void. Designers

Re: [LAD] Open Source Design (paid and pro bono design)

2018-11-29 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 29/11/2018 17.32, Louigi Verona wrote: Interesting that on their goals page they never mention "users" or "customers". So how are they going to understand what works if users are never consulted? That's clearly up to every single project. So from the point of view of "Open Source Design",

Re: [LAD] Open Source Design (paid and pro bono design)

2018-11-29 Thread David Runge
On 2018-11-29 17:32:44 (+0100), Louigi Verona wrote: > Interesting that on their goals page they never mention "users" or > "customers". So how are they going to understand what works if users > are never consulted? This could be a mistake that would make the whole > initiative void. Designers

Re: [LAD] Open Source Design (paid and pro bono design)

2018-11-29 Thread Louigi Verona
Interesting that on their goals page they never mention "users" or "customers". So how are they going to understand what works if users are never consulted? This could be a mistake that would make the whole initiative void. Designers should help design the software, but it has to be based on users

Re: [LAD] Open Source Design (paid and pro bono design)

2018-11-29 Thread Louigi Verona
This is totally a great initiative! Will definitely read up on their activities. Louigi Verona https://louigiverona.com/ On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 4:54 PM David Runge wrote: > Hey all, > > I thought I'd spread the word about Open Source Design [1], which is a > community of designers and

[LAD] Open Source Design (paid and pro bono design)

2018-11-29 Thread David Runge
Hey all, I thought I'd spread the word about Open Source Design [1], which is a community of designers and developers that wants to improve usability of free software (never mind the name, I guess most people are not as strict about it as e.g. Richard Stallman ;-) ). A friend (hey Sam!) made me