[LAD] Replaygain for video?

2011-12-09 Thread Philipp
Hi there, I could use some advise. You may or may not heard of replaygain. It's reasonably widely used in consumer audio, but sometimes I wish it was available for video as well. By this I mean I wish it was available for the audio part of the video. Well, I need a programming project for a unive

Re: [LAD] Replaygain for video?

2011-12-10 Thread Adrian Knoth
On 12/09/11 21:20, Philipp wrote: Hi! > Well, I need a programming project for a university course and this is > just one of my ideas that I want to propose to my teacher and > prospective teammates. In order to do this I'd like to narrow it down a > bit further and especially want to find out wh

Re: [LAD] Replaygain for video?

2011-12-10 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 12/09/2011 09:20 PM, Philipp wrote: Question 1: Is there anything better than replaygain that should be used instead? not better as such, but carrying more weight, for sure: the EBU R128 recommendation. fons has presented an implementation at lac 2011: http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2011/pape

Re: [LAD] Replaygain for video?

2011-12-10 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Adrian Knoth's message of 2011-12-10 11:38:03 +0100: > On 12/09/11 21:20, Philipp wrote: > > Hi! > > > Well, I need a programming project for a university course and this is > > just one of my ideas that I want to propose to my teacher and > > prospective teammates. In order to do t

Re: [LAD] Replaygain for video?

2011-12-10 Thread Adrian Knoth
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 01:10:38PM +0100, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > >2. Players like VLC have a normalize function. I don't know if it's > > one-pass (on the fly, more like automated gain control) or two-pass, > > but it basically solves your problem of audio levels at playback >

Re: [LAD] Replaygain for video?

2011-12-10 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 03:01:54PM +0100, Adrian Knoth wrote: > Huh? I cannot find anything on this website that says "normalization is > not sufficient": Depends on what is normalised. Peak level has no relation to loudness, so peak normalisation doesn't help. RMS comes as lot closer, RMS after

Re: [LAD] Replaygain for video?

2011-12-10 Thread Robin Gareus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hoi Philipp, On 12/09/2011 09:20 PM, Philipp wrote: > Hi there, > I could use some advise. > > You may or may not heard of replaygain. It's reasonably widely used in > consumer audio, but sometimes I wish it was available for video as well. > By this

Re: [LAD] Replaygain for video?

2011-12-10 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Adrian Knoth's message of 2011-12-10 15:01:54 +0100: > On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 01:10:38PM +0100, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > > > >2. Players like VLC have a normalize function. I don't know if it's > > > one-pass (on the fly, more like automated gain control) or two-pass, >

Re: [LAD] Replaygain for video?

2011-12-10 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Robin Gareus's message of 2011-12-10 15:26:11 +0100: > Hash: SHA1 > > Hoi Philipp, > > On 12/09/2011 09:20 PM, Philipp wrote: > > Hi there, > > I could use some advise. > > > > You may or may not heard of replaygain. It's reasonably widely used in > > consumer audio, but sometimes

Re: [LAD] Replaygain for video?

2011-12-11 Thread Robin Gareus
On 12/10/2011 11:04 PM, Philipp Überbacher wrote: [..] > guess I'd need the whole track anyway before making > calculations. Yes, but not all of it at the same time. You can calculate it sequentially. Have a look at https://www.ohloh.net/p/Samplecat it includes a ffmpeg audio decoder, max. gain

Re: [LAD] Replaygain for video?

2011-12-11 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:49:10PM +0100, Robin Gareus wrote: > For comparison, ebur128 reported: > Loundness-range 19.1 LU; Peak 6.7 LU for the Chaplin movie. > and > Loundness-range 11.3 LU; Peak 15.3 LU for the youtube video, ?? ebur128 does not report anything called 'Peak' in LU. The r

Re: [LAD] Replaygain for video?

2011-12-11 Thread Robin Gareus
On 12/11/2011 01:19 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:49:10PM +0100, Robin Gareus wrote: > >> For comparison, ebur128 reported: >> Loundness-range 19.1 LU; Peak 6.7 LU for the Chaplin movie. >> and >> Loundness-range 11.3 LU; Peak 15.3 LU for the youtube video, > > ?? e

Re: [LAD] Replaygain for video?

2011-12-24 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Quoting Robin Gareus (2011-12-11 14:27:35) >On 12/11/2011 01:19 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 12:49:10PM +0100, Robin Gareus wrote: >> >>> For comparison, ebur128 reported: >>> Loundness-range 19.1 LU; Peak 6.7 LU for the Chaplin movie. >>> and >>> Loundness-range 11.3