Re: [linux-audio-dev] Question to developers of sound editors.

2001-06-04 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
I think some Linux audio projects are really at that point of development right now -- the point of the projects are to learn how to do things right, not to make a usable tool ASAP. Much like IETF working group discussions in the first few years of a new standard. Once there's co

Re: [linux-audio-dev] linuxaudiodev.org .. Was: portal ... Re: Low Latency Kernel Combos

2001-06-04 Thread Patrick Shirkey
I want to change my vote on the new portal. At first I thought that another purely news site with a prominent link to the lists would be a good idea but now I feel we would be better served by having the the lists actively displayed. What is the likelyhood of having news in one frame and the list

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Announce: Mstation manual now browsable online.

2001-06-04 Thread Patrick Shirkey
Vincent Touquet wrote: >Hm, actually I found it very interesting :) Thanks. >I also like the mstation.org site very much. >Nice interviews and reviews of new (or not so new) audio applications ! >I would like these things to happen on the upcoming (?) >linuxaudiodev.com site too... Yes.

[linux-audio-dev] Off topic. DEMF

2001-06-04 Thread Patrick Shirkey
Is anyone else browsing the selection from groovetech.com on the Detroit Electromnic Music Festival. This stuff is only a week old. One really neat performance is Vitreous Flux. All done live using what looks like two powerful computers. Where is the rep from the Linux crew? Anybody from Detroit

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Question to developers of sound editors.

2001-06-04 Thread Josh Green
Patrick Shirkey wrote: > > This is what I'm talking about. We've got all these competing apps but > not one of them is entirely useful. It's really frustrating. Considering > how much time and effort goes into writing them. > Perhaps concentrating on application interconnection standards would

Re[2]: [linux-audio-dev] Question to developers of sound editors.

2001-06-04 Thread Rick Burnett
If I am not mistaken, I thought that lately we have been working on standards and interfaces across platforms, LAAGA and LADSPA do just that. I would like to point out that a majority of the applications that get started in linux don't ever go to completion. Everyone and their grandma (including

[linux-audio-dev] recording large audio files (was: Re: Question to developers ofsound editors.)

2001-06-04 Thread Kai Vehmanen
On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Jay Ts wrote: >> freeze up while recording an hour of music. We really >> need something that can handle large stereo files. > If all you want to do is record live audio, there is > a very simple command line utility called "wavrec" (I [...] > wavrec -b 16 -s 44100 -S fi

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Question to developers of sound editors.

2001-06-04 Thread David G Matthews
Try Snd if you want record large audio files. I generally find DAP a little easier to use, but I've had no problem recording 1-hour+ stereo 44,1khz files with Snd. On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, brian redfern wrote: > Actually the gimp doing video and audio would be the > best, I was just thinking about

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Announce: Mstation manual now browsable online.

2001-06-04 Thread Paul Winkler
Patrick Shirkey wrote: > In fact what you have are looking for would seem to be the mstation > website. > > http://www.mstation.org I haven't been in a while, nice to see so much new stuff. Great site! Complaint: You should get in the habit of regularly running some good link-checking tool on

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Question to developers of sound editors.

2001-06-04 Thread Paul Winkler
brian redfern wrote: > Another area where audio gimp plugins could get > interesting is to have something similar to meta synth > on the mac, which allows you to draw a sound's > frequency with images. Have a look at ceres3. It's very weird and fun. It's listed at dlp's page, http://sound.condoro

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Question to developers of sound editors.

2001-06-04 Thread Jay Ts
> I do get a good amount of use out > of DAP, but it doesn't handle large audio files well. > I tried to record a dj mix this weekend and went > through lots of difficulties getting my machine to not > freeze up while recording an hour of music. We really > need something that can handle large ste

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Just a thought about a possible hardware hack

2001-06-04 Thread Ben Bell
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 07:11:51AM -0700, Jay Ts wrote: > > Another possible solution might be to use software to sync the cards... > A better solution might be to get a card that is designed for multichannel > operation, such as an RME Hammerfall or Digi96/8 with an expansion board. > Or there is

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Question to developers of sound editors.

2001-06-04 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
hello frank ! [cc: to the list, that's why i'm writing in english] Frank Barknecht wrote: > > brian redfern hat gesagt: // brian redfern wrote: > > > Actually the gimp doing video and audio would be the best, I was just > > thinking about it myself, as an artist I've found that the gimp is > >

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Just a thought about a possible hardware hack

2001-06-04 Thread Paul Winkler
Ben Bell wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 12:37:56AM -0400, Joe Santapau wrote: > > it was explained to me that the one reason why > > you cannot use two-two channel stereo sound cards > > for multitrack recording was the the crystal on the > > cards that sets the sample rate would not be in to

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Question to developers of sound editors.

2001-06-04 Thread Tom Pincince
> So my question is... Is any kind of cohesiveness developing on the sound > editor front Much of what we have known regarding the traditional functions of a sound editor have been made obsolete and have been replaced by the functions found within an edl based editor/arranger. With very few exc

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Announce: Mstation manual now browsable online.

2001-06-04 Thread Vincent Touquet
Patrick Shirkey wrote: > Mark wrote to me with these ideas and has spurred me into action. This > is probably useless for 90% of the people on this list but you may be > want to point your friends to it. [cut] Hm, actually I found it very interesting :) I also like the mstation.org site very m

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Question to developers of sound editors.

2001-06-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
brian redfern hat gesagt: // brian redfern wrote: > Actually the gimp doing video and audio would be the best, I was just > thinking about it myself, as an artist I've found that the gimp is > really the main reason I got into linux in the first place. A gimp > plugin that can load and edit large

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Question to developers of sound editors.

2001-06-04 Thread Patrick Shirkey
Brian Redfern wrote: >Actually the gimp doing video and audio would be the >best, I was just thinking about it myself, as an >artist I've found that the gimp is really the main >reason I got into linux in the first place. A gimp >plugin that can load and edit large audio files makes >perfec

[linux-audio-dev] Re: Announce: Mstation manual now browsable online.

2001-06-04 Thread Patrick Shirkey
Mark Constable wrote: > > On Tuesday 05 June 2001 14:32, you wrote: > > Mark wrote to me with these ideas and has spurred me into action. This > > Geesus, you're keen to post that on LAD :-) > Well it is entirely linux audio related so where else should I go and who else would want to know?

Re: [linux-audio-dev] New in this world...

2001-06-04 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
Owen McCusker wrote: > > I am running Red Hat 7.0, and had much trouble matching my current libs, > with the ones > required by Ardour. I will try the tar ball next. > > I do have 9beta loaded, and am going through the same > investigation. Hopefully in a few days I will have some feedback. > >

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Question to developers of sound editors.

2001-06-04 Thread John Lazzaro
> While I'm all for diversity and totally respect that you guys are doing > it purely for the love of it, it seems kind of pointless that all these > are being worked on seperately. Is there a reason for this indivuality > that goes beyond a simple case of disorganisation? One of my favorite tech

Re: [linux-audio-dev] New in this world...

2001-06-04 Thread Owen McCusker
I am running Red Hat 7.0, and had much trouble matching my current libs, with the ones required by Ardour. I will try the tar ball next. I do have 9beta loaded, and am going through the same investigation. Hopefully in a few days I will have some feedback. Owen > Does anyone (Paul?) know if Ard

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Question to developers of sound editors.

2001-06-04 Thread brian redfern
Actually the gimp doing video and audio would be the best, I was just thinking about it myself, as an artist I've found that the gimp is really the main reason I got into linux in the first place. A gimp plugin that can load and edit large audio files makes perfect sense to me. I do get a good amo

[linux-audio-dev] Announce: Mstation manual now browsable online.

2001-06-04 Thread Patrick Shirkey
Mark wrote to me with these ideas and has spurred me into action. This is probably useless for 90% of the people on this list but you may be want to point your friends to it. John. Can you put a link up on mstation.org also if the ALSA crew are following you will probably want to update the Do

Re: [linux-audio-dev] New in this world...

2001-06-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
David G Matthews hat gesagt: // David G Matthews wrote: > Does anyone (Paul?) know if Ardour works with the .9beta version of Alsa > that's available through ftp? CVS from May 20 worked somehow with beta4. It will definetly not work with beta3. bye, --

Re: [linux-audio-dev] New in this world...

2001-06-04 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
David G Matthews wrote: > > Does anyone (Paul?) know if Ardour works with the .9beta version of Alsa > that's available through ftp? possible. it breaks for me with current alsa cvs. for a better chance to get an answer, you should ask this question on ardour-dev. good luck. -- Jörn Nettings

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Just a thought about a possible hardware hack

2001-06-04 Thread Jay Ts
> > On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 12:37:56AM -0400, Joe Santapau wrote: > > it was explained to me that the one reason why > > you cannot use two-two channel stereo sound cards > > for multitrack recording was the the crystal on the > > cards that sets the sample rate would not be in total > > sync

Re: [linux-audio-dev] New in this world...

2001-06-04 Thread David G Matthews
Does anyone (Paul?) know if Ardour works with the .9beta version of Alsa that's available through ftp? -dgm On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, brian redfern wrote: > If I were you, I'd take a look at the source code for > Broadcast 2000, it works equally well running on my > laptop with oss (its sound chip is

Re: [linux-audio-dev] New in this world...

2001-06-04 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
brian redfern wrote: > > If I were you, I'd take a look at the source code for > Broadcast 2000, it works equally well running on my > laptop with oss (its sound chip isn't supported by > alsa, yet), and alsa on my desktop. As for ardour, > I've got to upgrade to the cvs version of alsa, which >

[linux-audio-dev] Question to developers of sound editors.

2001-06-04 Thread Patrick Shirkey
How do I start? I am kind of bemused and slightly frustrated at how things are going in linux when it comes to sound editors. There are two projects right now where the developers are creating the music version of the Gimp - Sweep and Glame. Paul and Taybin are also creating a new editor from scr

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Just a thought about a possible hardware hack

2001-06-04 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
Joe Santapau wrote: > > it was explained to me that the one reason why > you cannot use two-two channel stereo sound cards > for multitrack recording was the the crystal on the > cards that sets the sample rate would not be in total > sync with each other, > > if this is true why can't you jumpe

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Please VOTE ! LAD website based on PHPNuke

2001-06-04 Thread Benno Senoner
On Sun, 03 Jun 2001, Juhana Sadeharju wrote: > >From:Benno Senoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >http://www.abctella.com/linuxaudiodev/ > >http://www.abctella.com/linuxaudiodev/pollBooth.php?pollID=2 > > They are really confusing-looking pages. Are all stuff related to > LAD? Even the first