[linux-audio-dev] 2.5.1 but no ALSA

2001-12-16 Thread Mark Constable
Yet. Has anyone got an idea of the schedule for including ALSA into the devel kernel series ? --markc

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-16 Thread Ivica Bukvic
> "if we get everyone to switch to alsa, then everyone can share audio > interfaces". > > "if we teach everyone how to use LD_PRELOAD and they accept it, then > everyone can share audio interfaces without even switching to ALSA." Well this sounds like a win-win situation and we should advertise

Re: [linux-audio-dev] So, what to do about it? (was: Still I cannot understand why...)

2001-12-16 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday 15 December 2001 11:31 pm, Paul Davis wrote: > >Even the Alesis MasterLink buffers to disk first. Can you say 'Buffer > >Underrun"? Real-time burning is hard to do right, without a faster-than > >real-time buffered source. Of course, BURN-Proof helps. > sorry, but this is not true.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-16 Thread ...
On Sun, 16 Dec 2001, Jussi Laako wrote: > Mark Constable wrote: > > Linux audio got screwed over by Linus allowing a semi-commercial > > "product" to be embedded within the kernel 7 or so years ago. It > > has taken this long for any adequate replacement to come along, > > which is ALSA. > ALSA wa

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Introducing DMIDI

2001-12-16 Thread Phil Kerr
Hi Martijn, Comments inline: martijn sipkema wrote: > > There are a small number of issues to fix, but the basic concept of > > having MIDI controllers broadcast data over a TCP/IP network and DMIDI > > hardware clients translate this data into raw MIDI (in as close to > > real-time as I can ge

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-16 Thread Jussi Laako
"M. Edward Borasky" wrote: > > Or, you can spend a few grand US and get a dummy head with the > microphones built in. Yes, but dummy head is not good as your own head and ears. Shape of the head and auricle makes big difference. > Or, you can take ordinary audio streams and pump them through

Re: [linux-audio-dev] So, what to do about it? (was: Still I cannot understand why...)

2001-12-16 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 23:32:23 +0100 "martijn sipkema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i'm not an expert on cd recording devices, but these do not allow the > change of recording speed whilst recording, do they? Recording speed is set by the sample rate. > and does s/pdif have flow control? No.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-16 Thread Josh Green
On Sun, 2001-12-16 at 05:35, Richard Guenther wrote: > > Well, most important for developers is not end-user documentation, but > API documentation - this part can be most easily done by the developer(s) > who did implement the API rather than someone else trying to figure out > whats going on by

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Introducing DMIDI

2001-12-16 Thread martijn sipkema
> There are a small number of issues to fix, but the basic concept of > having MIDI controllers broadcast data over a TCP/IP network and DMIDI > hardware clients translate this data into raw MIDI (in as close to > real-time as I can get) seems quite stable. > > The protocol is very simple, and do

Re: [linux-audio-dev] So, what to do about it? (was: Still I cannot understand why...)

2001-12-16 Thread martijn sipkema
> sorry, but this is not true. go and get a tascam dedicated cdrw > unit. it works 100% of the time, perfectly, with a s/pdif real time > input. at least, the one i have access to does. it can only do "audio > time" burning, but given the dedicated nature of the beast, thats > ok. i very much doub

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-16 Thread M. Edward Borasky
> -Original Message- > I personally like to play with real ear -recordings. Just put small high > quality mic capsules to ear plugs and put those into your ears > and record to > DAT. Now you have recorded _real_ 3D soudscape. Listen with headphones. Or, you can spend a few grand US and g

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-16 Thread D. Stimits
Paul Davis wrote: > > >So what you are saying is "if we get everyone to switch to alsa and use > >alsa properly, (i.e. writing apps which send buffered audio data to the > >alsa-server in a timely fashion)" the need for a separate sound daemon > >will disappear. Right? > > Almost. > > "if we ge

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-16 Thread Paul Davis
>> my studio/drumming friend (who has loads of experience with this >> stuff) will sometimes use 12 tracks just to record a rythmn >> track. this lets him play with the role of each drum in the piece in a >> way that sticking a stereo mike above a drumset just doesn't permit. > >I'd like to note t

Re: [linux-audio-dev] So, what to do about it? (was: Still I cannot understand why...)

2001-12-16 Thread Juhana Sadeharju
>and many people don't like freeverb or gverb. Both are rather poor reverberators, yes. People has to be very careful in parameter settings and to what sounds to use the reverbs. I would like to hear about people who have tested gverb. If nothing else I at least would know who could test next ve

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-16 Thread Jussi Laako
Paul Davis wrote: > > my studio/drumming friend (who has loads of experience with this > stuff) will sometimes use 12 tracks just to record a rythmn > track. this lets him play with the role of each drum in the piece in a > way that sticking a stereo mike above a drumset just doesn't permit. I'd

[linux-audio-dev] Fired

2001-12-16 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
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Re: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-16 Thread Jussi Laako
Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: > > Maybe you (or someone else) could work on getting POSIX.4 implemented > in the Linux kernel. POSIX.4 is the "real time" (i.e., "real world") > POSIX API. Yes, I'm still waiting for someone to implement named message queues to kernel which are base of all real

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-16 Thread Jussi Laako
Mark Constable wrote: > > Linux audio got screwed over by Linus allowing a semi-commercial > "product" to be embedded within the kernel 7 or so years ago. It > has taken this long for any adequate replacement to come along, > which is ALSA. ALSA was not ready at that time, still isn't and maybe

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-16 Thread Jussi Laako
Ivica Bukvic wrote: > > I am still extremely bothered by the fact that Linux does not have a > decent sound daemon which would solve all of our troubles in respect to > having /dev/dsp resources hogged by a particular application, as well as > backwards compatibility with esd and arts compatible

[linux-audio-dev] Re: ice1792 (fwd)

2001-12-16 Thread Taybin Rutkin
Someone emailed me asking for details about the problems with the envy24 chip. I lost who emailed me, and this should probably be on alsa-dev, but the person who knows more about it is Bill Evans. His email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2

[linux-audio-dev] Diffs for libkmid (KDE 2.2.2) and alsa 0.9

2001-12-16 Thread andrew cooke
There's a diff at http://www.acooke.org/andrew/writing/diff-libkmid-alsa that changes libkmid in KDE 2.2.2 so that it compiles with Alsa 0.9. Additional changes are necessary to the config script (workaround decribed at http://www.acooke.org/andrew/writing/tonto.html#kmid). This is my first

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-16 Thread Paul Davis
>So what you are saying is "if we get everyone to switch to alsa and use >alsa properly, (i.e. writing apps which send buffered audio data to the >alsa-server in a timely fashion)" the need for a separate sound daemon >will disappear. Right? Almost. "if we get everyone to switch to alsa, then e

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Fired

2001-12-16 Thread Vincent Touquet
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Re: [linux-audio-dev] Incomplete types - includes - for Alsa 0.9

2001-12-16 Thread Tim Goetze
andrew cooke wrote: >deviceman.cc:294: aggregate `struct snd_seq_client_info_t clienti' has >incomplete type and cannot be initialized they want total opacity for all their structs in alsa, so you need snd_seq_client_info_malloc() and friends from alsa-lib. consequently, you need to use the acc

[linux-audio-dev] Fired

2001-12-16 Thread Dave Phillips
Greetings: Last week the apartment building immediately adjacent to mine burned to the ground. A firewall between the buildings prevented flame damage, but my apartment suffered significant smoke damage. One room is completely destroyed, all my clothing is ruined, and all of my property is smok

[linux-audio-dev] Introducing DMIDI

2001-12-16 Thread Phil Kerr
Hi List, I'd like to introduce DMIDI, a protocol for transmitting MIDI over a TCP/IP network. The project will be fully released over the next few weeks and I'm making it available to you all for feedback/flames. There are a small number of issues to fix, but the basic concept of having MIDI co

[linux-audio-dev] Incomplete types - includes - for Alsa 0.9

2001-12-16 Thread andrew cooke
Hi, I'm trying to update the KDE midi handling code to work with Alsa 0.9 (at least, I think that's what I'm doing - it doesn't compile as it is). While I can work out what routines to use etc from the source, I'm a bit confused by the typedefs. In particular with: #include #include I get

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Still I cannot understand why...

2001-12-16 Thread Richard Guenther
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Friday 14 December 2001 04:45 am, Alexander Ehlert wrote: > > > audio current limitations log," right? :). You have said it the best: > > > Linux overall, is acutely suffering from lack of coherent documentation, > > > Every programmer should write the