Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread Erik Walthinsen
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, John Meacham wrote: > complety open hardware designs that are sold are really not that rare. > some examples of how it can be done are > http://www.bitscope.com/ > (very nice free digital sampling osciliscope. i am building this design into > the case of one of those cheapo i

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread John Meacham
complety open hardware designs that are sold are really not that rare. some examples of how it can be done are http://www.bitscope.com/ (very nice free digital sampling osciliscope. i am building this design into the case of one of those cheapo internet appliance computers running linux, whole t

Re: [linux-audio-dev] New plugins, fixes etc.

2002-01-14 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:43:18 + Steve Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://plugin.org.uk/releases/0.2.3/ > > * Spellunk fixes (thanks to Frank Neumann) > * Almost all plugins now have working activate methods, so they won't have > spillover if you stop and restart them (on propertly w

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
What amounts to open-source hardware has been around for a long, long time. Project schematics and board layouts have been available in magazines and books for over 50 years. What's being proposed here is really no different, except in attempting to get a bit more peer review of the design than

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread Paul Davis
>I think there's no problem in selling open-source h/w... if its specs are open, and it can be manufactured without special facilities, why wouldn't anyone simply contract with and sell them for the lowest price? the lowest price might be good for consumers, but its bad for whoever wants to try

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread Taybin Rutkin
On 15 Jan 2002, Marek Peteraj wrote: > I think there's no problem in selling open-source h/w... > The point is you wouldn't have to beg for specs. > + you would have a bigger chance that such companies would take care of > some s/w os projects (in terms of money), because they do not have to > p

[linux-audio-dev] New plugins, fixes etc.

2002-01-14 Thread Steve Harris
http://plugin.org.uk/releases/0.2.3/ * Spellunk fixes (thanks to Frank Neumann) * Almost all plugins now have working activate methods, so they won't have spillover if you stop and restart them (on propertly wrtten hosts) * Added crossover distortion * Added tube rectifier simulation The addit

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread Marek Peteraj
On Mon, 2002-01-14 at 21:45, Paul Davis wrote: > >Perhaps an important thing about designing such a soundcard is to show the > >world that open source is more than just a few hackers doing some funny > >coding. I mean open source is real and many commercial companies just > >don't see that. Des

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread William J. DeMeo
"William J. DeMeo" wrote: > > I think Paul makes a good point (as usual). ...especially good when it comes to reinventing an existing device just to make it GPL'ed.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread William J. DeMeo
Matthew Wishek wrote: > > I would think the following project would be of great interest. While not > technically a sound card, I was thinking it could be extended for use as a > programmable effects box. > > http://members.bbnow.net/rwhawkins/qube.html > > Matthew Wishek ...that looks very c

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread Matthew Wishek
I would think the following project would be of great interest. While not technically a sound card, I was thinking it could be extended for use as a programmable effects box. http://members.bbnow.net/rwhawkins/qube.html Matthew Wishek

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread Paul Davis
>Perhaps an important thing about designing such a soundcard is to show the >world that open source is more than just a few hackers doing some funny >coding. I mean open source is real and many commercial companies just >don't see that. Designing hardware with people all over the world as >vol

Re: [linux-audio-dev] new linux scheduler

2002-01-14 Thread Vincent Touquet
Look for the postings by Jussi Laako, it includes nice latency graphs. The results are quite stunning :) best regards vini On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 02:17:16PM -0500, Taybin Rutkin wrote: >Here's a scheduler patch for 2.4.17. It looks like it changes a bunch of >operations to O(1). I wasn't sure

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread Remco Poelstra
> I've had similar exercises, so I guess you also got a copy of the > XilinX foundation manager... > No, I've the Webpack software from Xilinx. > > From my experience it's horrible to work wit hthem, becuase they > hardly > > ever work. (Might be my experience with them, or the low quality > s

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread Dan Hollis
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Steve Harris wrote: > Shurely you would be better to design something that communicated with the > host via. USB or Firewire, you don't have as many electrical problems and > USB and firewire comms chips are cheap and plentiful. What's wrong with 100mb ethernet? That has even

[linux-audio-dev] new linux scheduler

2002-01-14 Thread Taybin Rutkin
Here's a scheduler patch for 2.4.17. It looks like it changes a bunch of operations to O(1). I wasn't sure if this would be better for latency or throughput ( which are in conflict, right?). It also looks like it is being fixed to work with the pre-emp patch. Here's the link to the summerary.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Creamware Pulsar

2002-01-14 Thread DAVID G MATTHEWS
No one wants to deny that there is a need for apps which can take down [insert favorite commercial audio/sequencing program here]. We will have them soon enough. I don't think anyone has tried to disuade anyone from working on such apps, or from using them once they become available. I personal

RE: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread Fred Gleason
On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Pieter wrote: > My point of view is that when a board is designed and all specs are > released, that enough people would be spending time writing (embedded) > software for the thing. I know that, if such device would exist, I > would. My 'plan' was/is to create a board that i

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Creamware Pulsar

2002-01-14 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Mark Constable writes: > On Sun, 13 Jan 2002 03:07, Jussi Laako wrote: > > Joachim Backhaus wrote: > > > Yes, if for example Britney Spears says she uses Linux > > > for her album EVERYTHING would change!!! :D > > > > At least I would probably change to FreeBSD... :) > > Please do. If you

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread Steve Harris
On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 08:38:08 +, Nick Bailey wrote: > You are right about the cost of custom silicon. You might still consider CPLD > (Complex Programmable Logic Devices) though. Or a DSP. You might be able to > get the chips fab'd through your University, who will have an educational >

RE: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread Pieter
> This idea sounds great. I can also participate the electronics > design part, > I'm best at analog electronics, but digital audio electronics is > also OK. I > can also write drivers for the RT-Linux. > > Most of my audio hardware is designed and built by me, from D/A converters > at end of S/PD

RE: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread Pieter
> anyway, i personally think you're mad. software is truly amenable to > "community development" because the costs involved in getting started > are relatively small. this will never be true for hardware unless all > you are doing is hobbyist-type stuff that is never really there for > anyone els

RE: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread Pieter
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Remco > Poelstra > Sent: zondag 13 januari 2002 20:25 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware > > > On 2002.01.12 10:12 Pieter wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm lur

RE: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread Pieter
> > For the bandwith of SPI I would have to take one of my Mororola books > out of the shelf (but I have to learn for exams, currently :-(), but > I=B2C would be far too slow. (Or did you really mean I=B2S (which I have > not heared, yet ...). > i did really mean I²S, it's the inter-ic-sound bu

[linux-audio-dev] Delta 66 and Alsa

2002-01-14 Thread Jan-Mark Batke
Dear all, I wrote a small howto for using the Midiman Delta 66 with the Alsa driver. Its just a start, but maybe you find it useful. If you are interested, look at http://www-ft.ee.tu-berlin.de/~batke/software_en.html Any comments are welcome. Best regards Jan-Mark -- .- Dipl.-Ing. Jan-Mark

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread Nick Bailey
Pieter wrote: > Max, > > For the moment, I'm also a student in electrical engineering. I've chosen > for micro-electronics, and I too have a VLSI project coming up in a few > weeks. > I don't think VLSI is an option. First of all, designing a chip is, in my > opinion, more difficult than designin

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Petition to Open Source Beatnik Internet Tools

2002-01-14 Thread François Déchelle
Bart Planton wrote: > > A number of composers, producers and web developers have put together a > petition to ask Beatnik to open source their Web Tools for interactive > audio, in particular the Beatnik Player and the Beatnik Xtra. > > Beatnik is focusing their development resources on the wi

Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware

2002-01-14 Thread Miha Tomšič
Hello! I am not into hardware and don't really know what is needed for an open project like this. Maybe someone will be interested in OpenCores project which provides open-source RISC processor and other chips. http://www.opencores.org/ Miha... - Miha Tomšič --- C. na postaj