[linux-audio-dev] sooperlooper goes PD

2003-01-21 Thread Jesse Chappell
The SooperLooper LADSPA plugin now comes with PD patches! For those that might not remember, SooperLooper is a LADSPA plugin that emulates the Gibson-Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro looping sampler. Go get more info and download it at its new address: http://essej.net/sooperlooper/ See the

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Additional LADSPA hints

2003-01-21 Thread robbins jacob
To my own surprise I have to object to the suggestion: /* AUDIO_RATE_CONTROL. Hints than an audio control should/could be controlled by a high time res. slider or control data, but shouldn't be connected to the next audio signal by default. I can't think of any simple examples off hand, but c

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread Paul Davis
>Next question is who would take the initiative >to spearhead this. Don't look at me. :-) i'll be happy to organize it if and when the time comes. its not time yet. i am sure there will be some technicalities to address. tom white at the mma seemed like a reasonable guy, however. --p

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread Paul Davis
>> BTW, that's rather interesting, put in relation to the number of >> Linux audio hackers as well. How many and how long does it *really* >> take to create a complete Linux based studio solution? > >Bizarrely, I think we actually spend more time reinventing the wheel than >the commercial guys. W

[linux-audio-dev] RTMix/Linux featured in the latest edition of Organised Sound

2003-01-21 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Hi all, Just to share the good news that Linux got some exposure in the latest edition of the Organised Sound journal (pub. by UK's Cambridge Journals). Stuff covered is RTMix, as well as JACK/Linux audio. Big thanks go to Paul Davis for the help with the benchmark info, as well as everyone else

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread David Gerard Matthews
David Olofson wrote: The very AU interfaces looked a *lot* like Objective C to me in the docs, but maybe I wasn't reading carefully enough... I'm hardly an Objective-C expert, but I'm pretty sure that it's just Apple-flavored OO-style C. -dgm

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread David Olofson
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 23.04, Will Benton wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 09:57:59PM +, Steve Harris wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 10:00:13PM +0100, David Olofson wrote: > > > As to AU, I think the use of Objective C is a serious obstacle. > > > I also dislike the way they handle sche

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread David Olofson
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 22.57, Steve Harris wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 10:00:13PM +0100, David Olofson wrote: > > As to AU, I think the use of Objective C is a serious obstacle. I > > also dislike the way they handle scheduling, and the general lack > > of consideration for API overhead...

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread Will Benton
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 09:57:59PM +, Steve Harris wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 10:00:13PM +0100, David Olofson wrote: > > As to AU, I think the use of Objective C is a serious obstacle. I > > also dislike the way they handle scheduling, and the general lack of > > consideration for API o

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 10:00:13PM +0100, David Olofson wrote: > As to AU, I think the use of Objective C is a serious obstacle. I > also dislike the way they handle scheduling, and the general lack of > consideration for API overhead... But that's another topic! I dont know that much about AU.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 12:41:21PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > the biggest issue right now is just what happens next. the MMA is > going to sponsor a mailing list. the initial requirements gathering > phase of the process will be open to the public, but the current > thinking is that the design phas

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread Paul Winkler
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 10:00:13PM +0100, David Olofson wrote: > Well, I have slightly mixed feelings, but an MMA membership probably > wouldn't hurt, even if this particular project fails. If nothing > else, it might make us look slightly better in the eyes of those that > still think "it can't

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread David Olofson
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 18.41, Paul Davis wrote: [...] > it was not clear whether any of these steps would be accomplished. > ron noted that expected the whole thing to take several (1-3) > years. Ouch. Well, as we all know, this kind of stuff takes time - and having all that people in the dis

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread Paul Davis
>On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 11:24:20 -0500, Paul Davis wrote: >> some guys from ohm force mentioned at the unified plugin api meeting >> on sunday that they and a number of other people on the music-dsp (or >> perhaps some other list) have written a 60 page document on proposals >> for a plugin API. t

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread David Olofson
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 17.59, Steve Harris wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 05:20:56 +0100, David Olofson wrote: > > Note that while this fixes the broken 0 duration case, it also > > has the side effect that RAMP(value, 0) becomes equivalent to > > SET(value). So, you don't really need to use

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread David Olofson
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 17.24, Paul Davis wrote: > some guys from ohm force mentioned at the unified plugin api > meeting on sunday that they and a number of other people on the > music-dsp (or perhaps some other list) have written a 60 page > document on proposals for a plugin API. they left th

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 11:24:20 -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > some guys from ohm force mentioned at the unified plugin api meeting > on sunday that they and a number of other people on the music-dsp (or > perhaps some other list) have written a 60 page document on proposals > for a plugin API. they l

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 05:20:56 +0100, David Olofson wrote: > Note that while this fixes the broken 0 duration case, it also has > the side effect that RAMP(value, 0) becomes equivalent to SET(value). > So, you don't really need to use the SET event explicitly at all. Not quite, RAMP(new_val, 0

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread David Olofson
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 10.19, Steve Harris wrote: [...] > > Another idea: > > Since we need that (duration == 0) test anyway, why not have it > > explicitly stop ramping as well, so we can connect non-ramped > > outputs to ramped inputs and vice versa? > > I'd say that has different semantics,

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread Paul Davis
some guys from ohm force mentioned at the unified plugin api meeting on sunday that they and a number of other people on the music-dsp (or perhaps some other list) have written a 60 page document on proposals for a plugin API. they left the meeting before i could get a url (they had a copy with the

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread David Olofson
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 10.18, Steve Harris wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 05:09:34 +0100, David Olofson wrote: > > For example, setting the initial level of an envelope and then > > setting up the delay or attack phase won't work, unless you wait > > for one frame before sending the RAMP even

Re: [linux-audio-dev] OpenSynth Eko supports Linux ?

2003-01-21 Thread Paul Davis
>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 11:07:40AM +0100, Vincent Touquet wrote: >> > Check this out: >> > >> > - http://www.opnlabs.com/ >> > - http://www.opnlabs.com/ekochart.php >> > [comes with XP or LINUX !] >> >> HOLY CRAP >> >> -- > >OMG! Where can one buy one? Couldn't find anything on the s

Re: [linux-audio-dev] ANN: k_jack v0.0.0.5 and Mammut v0.15

2003-01-21 Thread Paul Davis
>k_jack is a jack reimplementation why? given that we have not even finished the initial implementation, why? --p

[linux-audio-dev] UK Sound-on-Sound article on Linux audio software

2003-01-21 Thread Jim Peters
Just in case no-one else has noticed, the UK number one magazine for professional/semi-professional/serious-amateur sound engineers has carried a long article in their Febrary 2003 issue about using Linux for audio and production. They cover (with links): AGNULA, Ardour, Audacity, LADSPA, CCRMA, R

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 06:17:40 +0100, David Olofson wrote: > On Tuesday 21 January 2003 05.09, David Olofson wrote: > > So, it seems like we'll need that 0 test anyway. It should > > obviously apply the target value instantly, so that later events > > will work even if they land at the same times

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP: Some thoughts on control ramping

2003-01-21 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 05:09:34 +0100, David Olofson wrote: > For example, setting the initial level of an envelope and then > setting up the delay or attack phase won't work, unless you wait for > one frame before sending the RAMP event for the delay or attack > phase. Similarly, an attack dur