[linux-audio-dev] multiport midi interfaces

2003-03-01 Thread pawL
Are there any multiport midi interfaces that work in Linux?? pawL

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: New LADSPA Hints (Was: [ANNOUNCE] tapiir-0.7.1)

2003-03-01 Thread Steve Harris
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 04:26:23 -0500, Jesse Chappell wrote: Mike Rawes wrote on Fri, 28-Feb-2003: /* Hint MOMENTARY indicates that that a control should behave like a momentary switch, such as a reset or sync control. LADSPA_HINT_MOMENTARY may only be used in combination with

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread David Olofson
On Saturday 01 March 2003 04.03, Simon Jenkins wrote: [...all good points...] That's easily solved... but here's a problem that's not: A general solution to the graph sorting problem would have to know about the I/O dependencies *inside* the nodes. This isn't usually a problem on the scale

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread Simon Jenkins
David Olofson wrote: On Saturday 01 March 2003 04.03, Simon Jenkins wrote: [...all good points...] That's easily solved... but here's a problem that's not: A general solution to the graph sorting problem would have to know about the I/O dependencies *inside* the nodes. This isn't usually a

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread torbenh
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 03:03:37AM +, Simon Jenkins wrote: In ssm I sort the network each time a connection is made/destroyed, and generate a ordered list of modules to process from the root up to the leaves. It has to cope with circular sections, which unavoidably introduce latency,

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread torbenh
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 09:01:21PM +, Dave Griffiths wrote: On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 19:05:19 +0100 David Olofson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 28 February 2003 09.20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] random latency ? how do you mean that ? Latency depends on how you happen to

Re: [linux-audio-dev] multiport midi interfaces

2003-03-01 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 06:38, Frank Neumann wrote: Hi list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any multiport midi interfaces that work in Linux?? I purchased Yamaha UX256 a few weeks ago (USB, 6xIn, 6xOut + ToHost connector). Works like a charm so far. Frank Cool. What's the

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread Simon Jenkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 03:03:37AM +, Simon Jenkins wrote: A general solution to the graph sorting problem would have to know about the I/O dependencies *inside* the nodes. This isn't usually a problem on the scale where a node represents, for example, a simple

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread Simon Jenkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where is amble ? http://www.sbibble.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/amble/amble-0.1.1.tar.gz Some (not all) of the demos require libsndfile and its headers. is it in C ? Yes, but you'll have to excuse the accent. The graph ordering part of it is messily entwined with the rest

Re: [linux-audio-dev] multiport midi interfaces

2003-03-01 Thread Frank Neumann
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I purchased Yamaha UX256 a few weeks ago (USB, 6xIn, 6xOut + ToHost connector). Works like a charm so far. Frank Cool. What's the 'ToHost' connector do? It's kind of an extra MIDI port, but (as far as I know) this connector is only available on recent

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread Simon Jenkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Another problem i have with moving to the graph ordering side is the opengl stuff in galan which requires the pull model for the data. It would get somewhat inconsistent if gl data was pulled and audio data not... but this is also cosmetic... They're not that

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread torbenh
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 04:12:49PM +, Simon Jenkins wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 03:03:37AM +, Simon Jenkins wrote: A general solution to the graph sorting problem would have to know about the I/O dependencies *inside* the nodes. This isn't usually a

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread torbenh
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 04:47:55PM +, Simon Jenkins wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Another problem i have with moving to the graph ordering side is the opengl stuff in galan which requires the pull model for the data. It would get somewhat inconsistent if gl data was pulled

Re: [linux-audio-dev] multiport midi interfaces

2003-03-01 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 07:47, Frank Neumann wrote: Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I purchased Yamaha UX256 a few weeks ago (USB, 6xIn, 6xOut + ToHost connector). Works like a charm so far. Frank Cool. What's the 'ToHost' connector do? It's kind of an extra MIDI port, but (as

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread Dave Griffiths
On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:13:21 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 09:01:21PM +, Dave Griffiths wrote: On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 19:05:19 +0100 David Olofson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 28 February 2003 09.20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] random latency ?

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread torbenh
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 04:37:42PM +, Simon Jenkins wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: where is amble ? http://www.sbibble.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/amble/amble-0.1.1.tar.gz Some (not all) of the demos require libsndfile and its headers. is it in C ? Yes, but you'll have to excuse the

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread torbenh
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 04:47:55PM +, Simon Jenkins wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Another problem i have with moving to the graph ordering side is the opengl stuff in galan which requires the pull model for the data. It would get somewhat inconsistent if gl data was pulled

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread torbenh
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 12:29:10AM +0100, David Olofson wrote: On Friday 28 February 2003 22.01, Dave Griffiths wrote: On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 19:05:19 +0100 David Olofson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 28 February 2003 09.20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] random latency ? how

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread David Olofson
On Saturday 01 March 2003 15.00, Simon Jenkins wrote: [...] These cannot be single plugins, unless a plugin can have multiple callbacks. (And I don't think we want to go there.) Its a straight choice between going there and sending the user there. Sending the user there means he/she could

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread David Olofson
On Saturday 01 March 2003 17.12, Simon Jenkins wrote: [...] then these components must be built of other components... i dont see a reason why one wants a big complex component if it could be built from smaller components... (other than performace) Absolutely they must be built out of other

Re: [linux-audio-dev] multiport midi interfaces

2003-03-01 Thread Martin Voelkel
Frank Neumann writes: I purchased Yamaha UX256 a few weeks ago (USB, 6xIn, 6xOut + ToHost connector). Works like a charm so far. Cool. What's the 'ToHost' connector do? It's kind of an extra MIDI port, but (as far as I know) this connector is only available on recent Yamaha keyboards.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: New LADSPA Hints (Was: [ANNOUNCE] tapiir-0.7.1)

2003-03-01 Thread Mike Rawes
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:17:49 + Steve Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] There was a suggestion on ardour-dev that a hint to say whether control outs were supposed to be informative or a source of control data might help, but I'm not sure about it. Not sure what 'informative'

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread torbenh
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 05:05:28PM +, Dave Griffiths wrote: In ssm I sort the network each time a connection is made/destroyed, and generate a ordered list of modules to process from the root up to the leaves. It has to cope with circular sections, which unavoidably introduce

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread Mike Rawes
On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 19:20:49 +0100 David Olofson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 01 March 2003 17.12, Simon Jenkins wrote: [...] then these components must be built of other components... i dont see a reason why one wants a big complex component if it could be built from smaller

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread David Olofson
On Saturday 01 March 2003 15.13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Yeah, that makes sense, and I think that's the way most XAP hosts would do it. I don't like the idea of leaving the insertion of the (real or implicit) delay element in loops to the host, but that's a host implementation/UI

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread Simon Jenkins
David Olofson wrote: On Saturday 01 March 2003 17.12, Simon Jenkins wrote: [...] then these components must be built of other components... i dont see a reason why one wants a big complex component if it could be built from smaller components... (other than performace) Absolutely they

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread torbenh
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 08:15:42PM +, Simon Jenkins wrote: David Olofson wrote: On Saturday 01 March 2003 17.12, Simon Jenkins wrote: [...] then these components must be built of other components... i dont see a reason why one wants a big complex component if it could be built

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread torbenh
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 07:20:49PM +0100, David Olofson wrote: On Saturday 01 March 2003 17.12, Simon Jenkins wrote: [...] then these components must be built of other components... i dont see a reason why one wants a big complex component if it could be built from smaller components...

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread Simon Jenkins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it in C ? Yes, but you'll have to excuse the accent. :-) where did you get that accent from ? the only functional langage i know is python and i use it imperative most of the time... Stuff like the brackets in... #define WHATEVER (6) is habit due to

Re: [linux-audio-dev] multiport midi interfaces

2003-03-01 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday 01 March 2003 03:50, pawL wrote: Are there any multiport midi interfaces that work in Linux?? Roland/Edirol UA-100 USB Audio Canvas has two IN's and two OUT's. It's ALSA-supported for MIDI; there's a custom driver that supports the audio. The custom driver doesn't work very well

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread David Olofson
On Saturday 01 March 2003 21.15, Simon Jenkins wrote: [...] In terms of its inputs and outputs a subgraph is indistinguishable from a real plugin. All thats needed is a very thin code wrapper around the administration of the subgraph: A virtual plugin which, when you instantiate it, would

Re: [linux-audio-dev] XAP spec - early scribbles

2003-03-01 Thread David Olofson
On Saturday 01 March 2003 17.07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] If we do this on the right level, we can have both. We definitely should have a standard graph description (and preset) file format anyway, and all we need is a way for plugin authors to provide useful subgraphs with their