Re: [linux-audio-dev] New form of GPL licence that protects Linux from proprietary world [was: New powermacs?]

2003-06-22 Thread Vincent Touquet
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 08:22:37PM -0400, Ivica Bukvic wrote: However this brings up one interesting point/problem. Due to GPL nature of Linux software, many of our efforts will seamlessly bleed into OS X world since there are no restrictions as to which platform this software is run on, and Apple

Re: [linux-audio-dev] New powermacs?

2003-06-22 Thread Vincent Touquet
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 07:53:38PM -0400, Ivica Bukvic wrote: (cut) -- a unified and powerful underlying framework. Yet, that is not what we're working on right now... I noted a lot of Mac OS X projects making use of libsndfile already. The common Unix base is a huge step forward. Now there are 2

Re: [linux-audio-dev] New form of GPL licence that protects Linuxfrom proprietary world [was: New powermacs?]t

2003-06-22 Thread Vincent Touquet
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 10:19:21PM -0400, Ivica Bukvic wrote: My point exactly :-). Just to add a bit onto this issue is that we could still support non-opensource systems, but they would need to purchase the software (see my other e-mail with the Trolltech as an example). Dual licensing is a

Re: [linux-audio-dev] New form of GPL licence that protects Linux from proprietary world [was: New powermacs?]

2003-06-22 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 22:16:52 -0400 Ivica Bukvic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really don't see this as a problem. Do you mind saying why? Well people using libsndfile means that there are less people rolling their own buggy implementations. This eventually means that libsndfile has to handle

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Linux Driver for Creamware Luna II

2003-06-22 Thread Balázs Gaál
There will be an OSX driver for the Creamware platform. Reverse engieneering will be more realistic then, won't it? Blaze1st

[linux-audio-dev] Re: linux-audio-dev digest, Vol 1 #519 - 10 msgs

2003-06-22 Thread Tom Weber
Now if you allow your Open Source Applications to be ported to this proprietary OSes, you strengthen this behaviour and weaken the Open Source Movement. People will get your software but will stick with OSX or whatever cause of this called Killerapps. Systems. Just to add a bit onto

Re: [linux-audio-dev] New form of GPL licence that protects Linux fromproprietary world [was: New powermacs?]

2003-06-22 Thread Marc Lavallée
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 22 Juin 2003 07:28, Ivica Bukvic a écrit : Many of you have pointed out that limiting GPL would hinder the freedom it stands for. I agree. I never meant to change THE GPL, but rather to create an offspring GPL-like license that had my suggested

Re: [linux-audio-dev] New form of GPL licence that protects Linux from proprietary world [was: New powermacs?]

2003-06-22 Thread rm
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 01:46:30PM -0400, Ivica Bukvic wrote: So basically, you want to restrict the use of a software to a specific type of operating system? Like M$ does? Not a _specific_ OS. There are _many_ open-source OS's out there and none of them have monopolistic agenda like Apple

Re: [linux-audio-dev] New form of GPL licence that protects Linux from proprietary world [was: New powermacs?]

2003-06-22 Thread Paul Davis
I would love to hear from Paul Davis on this issue since he is one of the most involved contributors in this community when it comes to monetary dependence. Paul? at the point you wrote this, i was at about mile 142 of a 200 mile bicycle ride through north-western new jersey. i finished 2 hours

Re: [linux-audio-dev] 2.5.72 + ALSA + jack == happy monkey

2003-06-22 Thread cliffw
Hi, lördagen den 21 juni 2003 09.18 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wanted to post a quick success story with the 2.5 kernel series: Machine processor VIA C3 Ezra cpu MHz : 932.918 bogomips: 1843.20 256MB ram Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233

[linux-audio-dev] Re: [Sursound] UHJ live encoding / LADSPA plugin?

2003-06-22 Thread DG Malham
Not that I know of, yet. Dave On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, oliver thuns wrote: hello, i'm looking for a solution to encode an ambisonics signal to 2 channel UHJ in real time. is there for example a LADSPA or (linux compatible) VST plugin to do this? oliver

RE: [linux-audio-dev] New form of GPL licence that protects Linux from proprietary world [was: New powermacs?]

2003-06-22 Thread Ivica Bukvic
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 01:46:30PM -0400, Ivica Bukvic wrote: So basically, you want to restrict the use of a software to a specific type of operating system? Like M$ does? Not a _specific_ OS. There are _many_ open-source OS's out there and none of them have monopolistic agenda like

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Sursound] UHJ live encoding / LADSPA plugin?

2003-06-22 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:50:39PM +0100, DG Malham wrote: Not that I know of, yet. Dave On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, oliver thuns wrote: hello, i'm looking for a solution to encode an ambisonics signal to 2 channel UHJ in real time. is there for example a LADSPA or (linux

RE: [linux-audio-dev] New form of GPL licence that protects Linuxfrom proprietary world [was: New powermacs?]

2003-06-22 Thread Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano
Software would remain open-source. But the assumption is if you are willing to part with the freedoms Linux and other GNU OS's offer, and pay for a costlier system, as well as a bunch of shrink-wrapped apps, then you might as well pay for the oss apps and help the oss community. No one would

RE: [linux-audio-dev] New form of GPL licence that protects Linuxfrom proprietary world [was: New powermacs?]

2003-06-22 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Do we want to _become_ what our competition is? I don't think so. I don't like pushy tactics. We are (by some measure) successsfull because we are not like the competition. Point well taken. However, as someone pointed out earlier, we need more contributors to our community in order to have

RE: [linux-audio-dev] New form of GPL licence that protects Linux from proprietary world [was: New powermacs?]

2003-06-22 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Guess what: your derived license would be incompatible with the GPL or any OSI license. You don't understand what free software is. Here you go again, yakking making conclusions on your own doctored facts. I never implied occlusion of the source code nor did I ever suggest that I've worked out

Re: [linux-audio-dev] New form of GPL licence that protects Linux from proprietary world [was: New powermacs?]

2003-06-22 Thread rm
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 11:25:58PM -0400, Ivica Bukvic wrote: I don't care about Linux. So what in the world are you doing on a _linux_ audio dev list? i wouldn't mind this being free-audio-dev list. although i think it would lose some of the technical focus on the particular intricacies of

Re: [linux-audio-dev] New form of GPL licence that protects Linux fromproprietary world [was: New powermacs?]

2003-06-22 Thread Marc Lavallée
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 22 Juin 2003 23:25, Ivica Bukvic a écrit : I never implied occlusion of the source code nor did I ever suggest that I've worked out all the quirks out of the whole system. It is/was a mere proposal to instigate a discussion at this point,