On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 02:57, Juhana Sadeharju wrote:
Hello.
I would like to clarify that the project originally was not about
writing a common modular synth patch editor. The idea was not that
we would have a common modular synth patch format.
Heh, too late for that now. :)
The idea was
On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 04:02:43PM -0800, Iain Duncan wrote:
From a programming perspective I'm sure you're right. But the truth is that
a modular is *exactly* like having Jack do every connection, that's what a
modular synth is! They aren't easy to patch or easy to use!
Think of jack as being
On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 05:52:17PM -0800, Iain Duncan wrote:
Hoping some one can throw some light on this for me, I've been dutifully
doing my best to research it but am overwhelmed with all the info, much of
which looks like it might be out of date.
You just need JACK. http://jackit.sf.net
On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 06:50:19PM -0500, Dave Robillard wrote:
Well, regardless of what the voice does after note release, the voice
you want to 'take over' is /probably/ the one with the oldest note-off.
Yes, the problem is when there are no note offs yet. In hardware,
generally you discard
On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 10:21:23PM -0800, Brad Arant wrote:
For what it is worth, some synths employ a lowest volume algorithm instead
of least recently used. Sometimes a voice may be sounding even if it is the
oldest and strange voice stealing effects can be heard (we have all heard
it). This
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 02:40:53AM +0100, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
Well, they *can* be. There's nothing that prevents a LADSPA plugin from
creating a new thread for things that can't be done in the process call.
So a LADSPA plugin that e.g. plays back samples is certainly possible.
But then
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 12:03:37AM +, Bob Ham wrote:
The name LADCCA was always intended to be a working name but even
though there's a long way to go, it's out there and people seem to be
using it. I wouldn't worry about it that much, but the first thing
anyone seems to say about LADCCA
Hello,
just taken out of the modular synth thread:
Indeed, I could reproduce the problem concerning missing notes in ams
polyphonic mode. I use ams as a monosynth most of the time, therefore
I overlooked it. The algorithm I implemented checks for the weakest note
(in terms of envelope
Benjamin Flaming:
People without working hardware acceleration includes anyone using more
than one monitor. X refuses to allow hardware acceleration with Xinerama.
Since multiple monitors are central to my working style (and that of many
recording studios), using OpenGL could have
Hallo,
Steve Harris hat gesagt: // Steve Harris wrote:
If you think of jack as a modular synth, then LADCCA would be a Polaroid
:) maybe not eh.
JACK Snaphot?
To take this idea a little further (over the edge): what about
JACK Audio Setup Snapshot or short JACKASS. Any good?
;)
ciao
--
On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 12:05, Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen wrote:
Programs where it makes sense using two or more monitors are in my opinion
seriously crippled. Its about 2.3 million times faster (rough guess) to
press a key (to switch to another view) than to turn your head. In
addition, you
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 12:05:04 +0100, Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen wrote:
Programs where it makes sense using two or more monitors are in my opinion
seriously crippled. Its about 2.3 million times faster (rough guess) to
press a key (to switch to another view) than to turn your head. In
A)
Xinerama _does_ support open GL, at least with my matrox card, I can have
openGL on one monitor of the two. That is a limitation of the card
hardware, AFAIK, not of X.
Still there are a lot of these cards around so openGL would not be very
useful.
B)ergonomics
Mutli head setups are extremely
On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 06:05, Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen wrote:
Benjamin Flaming:
People without working hardware acceleration includes anyone using more
than one monitor. X refuses to allow hardware acceleration with Xinerama.
Since multiple monitors are central to my working style
On Monday 19 January 2004 18.11, Steve Harris wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 04:41:06PM +0100, Martijn Sipkema wrote:
[...]
Xinerama _does_ support open GL, at least with my matrox card,
I can have openGL on one monitor of the two. That is a
limitation of the card hardware, AFAIK,
On Monday 19 January 2004 16.03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A)
Xinerama _does_ support open GL, at least with my matrox card, I
can have openGL on one monitor of the two. That is a limitation of
the card hardware, AFAIK, not of X.
Are we talking about a pre-Parhelia card?
I just remembered;
Dave Robillard wrote:
On Fri, 2004-01-16 at 16:06, Marcus Andersson wrote:
Dave Robillard wrote:
...
But you're mashing the ideas of modules in an app and connecting
multiple apps together - different problems. A jack patch bay that
works like a modular would definately be cool, but a
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
Steve Harris hat gesagt: // Steve Harris wrote:
If you think of jack as a modular synth, then LADCCA would be a Polaroid
:) maybe not eh.
JACK Snaphot?
To take this idea a little further (over the edge): what about
JACK Audio Setup Snapshot or short JACKASS. Any
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
Steve Harris hat gesagt: // Steve Harris wrote:
If you think of jack as a modular synth, then LADCCA would be a Polaroid
:) maybe not eh.
JACK Snaphot?
To take this idea a little further (over the edge): what about
JACK Audio Setup Snapshot or short JACKASS. Any
Kjetil Svalastog Matheussen wrote:
Benjamin Flaming:
People without working hardware acceleration includes anyone using more
than one monitor. X refuses to allow hardware acceleration with Xinerama.
Since multiple monitors are central to my working style (and that of many
recording studios),
Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 02:56:52AM +0100, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
The point is IMHO that JACK is great for making audio connections between
independent Linux processes - that what it's designed for, and what it does
extremely well (BTW congrats to Paul and the whole JACK
On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 18:38, Paul Winkler wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:42:36PM +0100, martin rumori wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 05:27:10PM +, Steve Harris wrote:
How about Gaffer, both a reference to the tape beloved of all roadies
isn't that thing spelled gaffa? guess,
On Monday 19 January 2004 20.57, Bob Ham wrote:
[...]
I'm not sure I like gaffer, purely from an API prefix perspective
:)
Good point. I have to call Audiality Ady to get a sensible prefix -
but that still seems to be pretty unique.
LASH and LACE I like, and I'm torn between the two; LACE
Whoops: Those ascii diagrams again:
+---+
| +---+ |
JACK -|- A -|---+
| | |
+--|- B -|-- JACK
+---+
+---+
| |
+---|- C -|--+
| | | |
| +---+ |
|
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 08:56:52PM +, Simon Jenkins wrote:
Worse:
JACK - A - JACK - C - JACK - B - JACK
Where C is in a separate client.
Now...
+---+
| |
+---|- C -|--+
| | | |
| +---+ |
|
[...]
Xinerama _does_ support open GL, at least with my matrox card, I can
have
openGL on one monitor of the two. That is a limitation of the card
hardware, AFAIK, not of X.
I doubt this is a hardware limitation. The hardware just renders to AGP
or
local memory. I may be wrong
[...]
IIRC Matrox cards have a way of making a single framebuffer (with
xinerama hints) that appears on two monitors. That way you should
get 3d accel on both displays.
ATI has something similar, but their drivers don't seem to work with
Xinerama the normal way. It (sort of) works
[...]
I just remembered; the Matrox G100/200/400 drivers and/or hardware has
problems with multiple OpenGL contexts. Matrox have known about it
for ages, but seem to ignore the problem. This is part of the reason
why I gave up on my G400.
Most likely a driver problem (or elsewhere in the
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 11:41:30 +0100, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
Oh dear... C needs to be called between A and B, but even if JACK and the
two clients know that A-C-B is the correct order (which none of them do)
it can't be achieved because A and B must be processed in a single callback.
Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 08:56:52PM +, Simon Jenkins wrote:
Worse:
JACK - A - JACK - C - JACK - B - JACK
Where C is in a separate client.
Now...
+---+
| |
+---|- C -|--+
| | | |
| +---+ |
Steve Harris wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 11:41:30 +0100, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
Oh dear... C needs to be called between A and B, but even if JACK and the
two clients know that A-C-B is the correct order (which none of them do)
it can't be achieved because A and B must be processed in a
Hi!
Regarding recycling of voices ..
I use four ques:
1) Voices that are off and has silenced. These voices are always safe to
assign. If this que is empty then I'll look for ...
2) Voices that are off but still running. Pick the oldest one if any,
else try ...
3) Voices that are held. They
On Monday 19 January 2004 22.53, Dave Robillard wrote:
On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 14:57, Bob Ham wrote:
I'm not sure I like gaffer, purely from an API prefix perspective
:) LASH and LACE I like, and I'm torn between the two; LACE is
the quickest to type, but LASH is much cooler.
LACE is
On Tuesday 20 January 2004 00.29, Martijn Sipkema wrote:
[...]
IIRC Matrox cards have a way of making a single framebuffer
(with xinerama hints) that appears on two monitors. That way
you should get 3d accel on both displays.
ATI has something similar, but their drivers don't seem
On Tuesday 20 January 2004 00.34, Martijn Sipkema wrote:
[...]
I just remembered; the Matrox G100/200/400 drivers and/or
hardware has problems with multiple OpenGL contexts. Matrox have
known about it for ages, but seem to ignore the problem. This is
part of the reason why I gave up on
On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 22:36, David Olofson wrote:
That's why Dvorak has all the vowels on the left half of the keyboard;
LACE: R L R L
LASH: R L R R
LASH has all letters but the L on the home row, and the SH is just a
right hard roll movement, so it's still easy to type.
Touche.
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