[linux-audio-dev] Re: OSC vs MIDI

2004-09-01 Thread Artem Baguinski
Dave Griffiths wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:43:31 -0600, martin rumori wrote > so if I'm writing a osc sequencer are you? i'd like to see ;-)

[linux-audio-dev] Re: OSC vs MIDI

2004-09-01 Thread Artem Baguinski
Dave Griffiths wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 16:02:43 +0100, Steve Harris wrote On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 02:48:46PM +0100, Dave Griffiths wrote: BTW, if you have reasonable OSC covereage I'd be very interested in compatibility tests between whatever you're using and liblo. Very early days, I've only im

Re: [linux-audio-dev] OSC vs MIDI

2004-09-01 Thread Dave Robillard
On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 07:48, martin rumori wrote: > On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 11:31:01AM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 10:03:18 +0100, Dave Griffiths wrote: > > > so if I'm writing a osc sequencer, is the best plan to leave the > > > mapping open for the user to modify? > >

Re: [linux-audio-dev] OSC vs MIDI

2004-09-01 Thread Albert Graef
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Has anyone else looked at O'Caml? : http://www.ocaml.org/ I've been coding in it for about 6 weeks and I'm REALLY enjoying it. Its the most fun I've had coding in ages. Yes, those modern functional languages really bring back the joy to hacking. :) The trouble with M

Re: [linux-audio-dev] OSC vs MIDI

2004-09-01 Thread Dave Robillard
On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 04:52, Steve Harris wrote: > I dont really think OSC needs to replace MIDI, if your doing 12 tone, > limited polyphony, bandwisth etc. stuff, which most people are, its fine. > > - Steve Sure, but the control issue is a nuisance, even for 'most people' - assigning numbers to

Re: [linux-audio-dev] OSC vs MIDI

2004-09-01 Thread Dave Griffiths
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 05:48:15 -0600, martin rumori wrote > On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 11:31:01AM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 10:03:18 +0100, Dave Griffiths wrote: > > > so if I'm writing a osc sequencer, is the best plan to leave the > > > mapping open for the user to modify?

Re: [linux-audio-dev] OSC vs MIDI

2004-09-01 Thread Pete Bessman
At Wed, 1 Sep 2004 20:15:54 +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: > > On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:15:24 -0400 > Pete Bessman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The D programming language looks very promising in this regard, but > > its newsgroup faces a daily battle with people who seem more > > interested

Re: [linux-audio-dev] OSC vs MIDI

2004-09-01 Thread martin rumori
On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 08:24:20AM -0400, Pete Bessman wrote: > At Wed, 1 Sep 2004 09:49:36 +0100, > Steve Harris wrote: > > > > Obejctive C is OK, it uses messages (smalltalk style) rather than method > > calls, and they have some performance limitations, but the class stuff is > > all sane. > >

Re: [linux-audio-dev] OSC vs MIDI

2004-09-01 Thread Pete Bessman
At Wed, 1 Sep 2004 09:49:36 +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > > Obejctive C is OK, it uses messages (smalltalk style) rather than method > calls, and they have some performance limitations, but the class stuff is > all sane. Good call, I forgot about it at the time of writing. It is quite nice, and I

Re: [linux-audio-dev] OSC vs MIDI

2004-09-01 Thread martin rumori
On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 09:49:36AM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > Obejctive C is OK, it uses messages (smalltalk style) rather than method > calls, and they have some performance limitations, but the class stuff is > all sane. i like objc very much as well, didn't have the heart to mention it here i

Re: [linux-audio-dev] OSC vs MIDI

2004-09-01 Thread martin rumori
On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 11:31:01AM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 10:03:18 +0100, Dave Griffiths wrote: > > so if I'm writing a osc sequencer, is the best plan to leave the > > mapping open for the user to modify? > > I would say so yes, its possible that an OSC schema spe wi

Re: [linux-audio-dev] OSC vs MIDI

2004-09-01 Thread Steve Harris
On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 10:03:18 +0100, Dave Griffiths wrote: > On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:43:31 -0600, martin rumori wrote > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 02:46:13PM -0400, Dave Robillard wrote: > > > I was wondering about this the other day - is there no OSC 'standard' > > > for how to declare note-ons,

Re: [linux-audio-dev] OSC vs MIDI

2004-09-01 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:15:24 -0400 Pete Bessman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The D programming language looks very promising in this regard, but > its newsgroup faces a daily battle with people who seem more > interested in creating a religion than a tool. I had a bit of a look at D and I was ma

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Howto grab keys?

2004-09-01 Thread jaromil
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Aug 20, 2004 at 08:42:18AM -0400, Paul Davis wrote: > the key element is setting up the tty in medium-raw mode so that you > can get actual key events from the keyboard rather than ASCII chars > the way that ncurses normally does. hi Paul, ac

Re: [linux-audio-dev] OSC vs MIDI

2004-09-01 Thread Dave Griffiths
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:43:31 -0600, martin rumori wrote > On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 02:46:13PM -0400, Dave Robillard wrote: > > I was wondering about this the other day - is there no OSC 'standard' > > for how to declare note-ons, offs, etc? > > > > If OSC really is to become a MIDI replacement, the

Re: [linux-audio-dev] OSC vs MIDI

2004-09-01 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 01:43:31 -0600, martin rumori wrote: > AFAIK in the beginning it was never meant as a midi replacement, but > should -in opposite to midi- not make any assumptions on the musical > meaning of the data being sent. especially in the field of new music > or sound art, MIDI is

Re: [linux-audio-dev] OSC vs MIDI

2004-09-01 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 01:15:24 -0400, Pete Bessman wrote: > At Tue, 31 Aug 2004 16:02:43 +0100, > Steve Harris wrote: > > > > I like the OO-in-C style of programming, its pretty much the best of both > > worlds IMHO. C syntax, but no C++ 'features'. > > Seriously. You can easily do Real OOP in

Re: [linux-audio-dev] OSC vs MIDI

2004-09-01 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 06:47:35 +0100, Dave Griffiths wrote: > > The D programming language looks very promising in this regard > > The best thing I've seen about D is that it removes the C preprocessor - at > last! :) Guh! How could you say that :) - Steve

Re: [linux-audio-dev] OSC vs MIDI

2004-09-01 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 04:52:33 +0100, Dave Griffiths wrote: > > I like the OO-in-C style of programming, its pretty much the best of > > both worlds IMHO. C syntax, but no C++ 'features'. > > Not mention the lack of a maze of twisty ABI's... Truely. > Just a quick side issue, I'm doing a lot

Re: [linux-audio-dev] OSC vs MIDI

2004-09-01 Thread Dave Griffiths
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:04:48 -0400, Dave Robillard wrote > On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 14:44, Robert Jonsson wrote: > > > Getting off topic here, but there's a little more to it than that. 1 > > > Syntactic sugared implementation is much much more preferable to 101 > > > conventions for doing OOP with vo