Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] RME is no more

2004-11-26 Thread Uwe Koloska
CK wrote: I read: for the record, i sent a mail to rme as well and got exactly the same answer (in german) which i saw before here on this list. I still don't see the point, the GPL _protects_ their IP rights, if I was the evil corporation trying to rip off rme I could aswell rip the thing apart

Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] RME is no more

2004-11-26 Thread CK
I read: Is this true, that a firewire driver for one card can be used with equal power for another card? what I was referring to is rather the idea to sell the same hardware with minor modification at very different prices and putting the limitations in the binary only driver (miro dc10 and

Re: [linux-audio-dev] impulse convolution LADSPA plugin

2004-11-26 Thread Stefan Turner
Hi Steve, thanks for the reply. I will definitely look into using DSSI, looks like it could be good once as supported as LADSPA is (I'd never even heard of it before your post, although that's probably just me). Is it intended as an eventual LADSPA replacement? I never really saw the need to

Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] RME is no more

2004-11-26 Thread Pieter Palmers
139Uwe Koloska wrote: CK wrote: I read: for the record, i sent a mail to rme as well and got exactly the same answer (in german) which i saw before here on this list. I still don't see the point, the GPL _protects_ their IP rights, if I was the evil corporation trying to rip off rme I could

promoting DSSI, was re: [linux-audio-dev] impulse convolution LADSPA plugin

2004-11-26 Thread Dave Phillips
Stefan Turner wrote: I will definitely look into using DSSI, looks like it could be good once as supported as LADSPA is (I'd never even heard of it before your post, although that's probably just me). Is it intended as an eventual LADSPA replacement? I never really saw the need to divide plugins

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Open firewire audio interface: A back-of-an-envelope prototype plan

2004-11-26 Thread smoerk
somehow a nice idea, i only see one problem: firewire and usb audio devices are mainly used with laptops, whih normaly have only one ethernet port. if you have a desktop, you could also use a pci audio card. what about usb 2.0 audio cards? has firewire any advantage? big disadvantage with

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Open firewire audio interface: A back-of-an-envelope prototype plan

2004-11-26 Thread Bob Knight
smoerk wrote: somehow a nice idea, i only see one problem: firewire and usb audio devices are mainly used with laptops, whih normaly have only one ethernet port. if you have a desktop, you could also use a pci audio card. A multi port wire speed switch would probably set you back about $20. In a

Re: promoting DSSI, was re: [linux-audio-dev] impulse convolution LADSPA plugin

2004-11-26 Thread Florin Andrei
On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 09:03 -0500, Dave Phillips wrote: If I may chime in here... I urge all Linux audio developers to read the DSSI spec, it's well-written and directly addresses some of LADSPA's shortcomings. After working with VSTi plugins for a while I've begun to see the need for

Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] RME is no more

2004-11-26 Thread Florin Andrei
On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 01:20 +0100, CK wrote: I still don't see the point, the GPL _protects_ their IP rights It only protects the source of the driver. if I was the evil corporation trying to rip off rme I could aswell rip the thing apart and reverse engineer the code and the protocol,

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Open firewire audio interface: A back-of-an-envelope prototype plan

2004-11-26 Thread smoerk
Bob Knight wrote: smoerk wrote: somehow a nice idea, i only see one problem: firewire and usb audio devices are mainly used with laptops, whih normaly have only one ethernet port. if you have a desktop, you could also use a pci audio card. A multi port wire speed switch would probably set you

[linux-audio-dev] gibson magic?

2004-11-26 Thread smoerk
btw, is there anyone working on an implementation of gibson's magic for linux? is it even possible?

Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] RME is no more

2004-11-26 Thread Marek Peteraj
On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 19:36, Georg Rudolph wrote: Please, let's not be too harsh. I recently bought the pcmcia based multiface from RME, only because it has linux support, and it works great, on both kernels. Of course, firewire is cooler, but there is this way out. Not for me. :) anyway

Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] RME is no more

2004-11-26 Thread Marek Peteraj
I assume that RME has developped their own protocols, which they don't want to share. And frankly I can understand their point of view, because I think an awfull lot of time (=money) must have been spent to develop an efficient protocol. 1. So they haven't invested the a comparable

Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] RME is no more

2004-11-26 Thread Tim Hockin
On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 12:34:17AM +0100, Marek Peteraj wrote: Which seems like it's the beginning of end for linux pro-audio hw support if we don't fight for it. Right now it concerns just me, but it might concern everyone in the near future. How can we fight it? I've been holding off on a

Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] RME is no more

2004-11-26 Thread Marek Peteraj
On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 23:17, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:34:17 +0100, Marek Peteraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP 2. I can only understand the point of view of open source developers here, since they also invested an awfull lot of time (and money that they didn't get back!)

Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] RME is no more

2004-11-26 Thread Marek Peteraj
On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 22:48, Tim Hockin wrote: On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 12:34:17AM +0100, Marek Peteraj wrote: Which seems like it's the beginning of end for linux pro-audio hw support if we don't fight for it. Right now it concerns just me, but it might concern everyone in the near future.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Open firewire audio interface: A back-of-an-envelope prototype plan

2004-11-26 Thread Simon Jenkins
Bob Knight wrote: I want an open ethernet audio device. I do not want or need to deal with pci, firewire, usb. Fair enough, and an interesting project, though personally I'm more interested in doing a firewire device. Use one of many controllers out there with a good embedded linux port and build

Re: [linux-audio-user] Re: [linux-audio-dev] RME is no more

2004-11-26 Thread CK
sorry I'll do this at once: I read: On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 23:17, Mark Knecht wrote: This I agree with, but the best way to fight for it (speaking as a business man) is to develop a real market for it. We need thousands of buyers. Develop the market and hardware manufacturers will come.