[linux-audio-dev] solved: adm: list archives at eca.cx

2004-12-15 Thread Kai Vehmanen
Hello all, On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, Kai Vehmanen wrote: > Ok, I've been now testing a new, semi-realtime, mechanism to archive the > lists. What's important is that this is something I can support also in > the future, so the archiving can continue for all three lists. [...] > What I'm missing now is

Re: [linux-audio-dev] pyseq - MIDI routing with Python and ALSA

2004-12-15 Thread Peter Brinkmann
Hi Tim, > I've worked on something that has many parts of what you are looking > for, but it won't run if compiled with g++ 3.0 or later. The project > is discontinued, but the sources are here: quitte.de/nam.html if you > happen to feel adventurous. I remember that I looked at nam a while ago, b

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: rosegarden, alsa_seq and usx2y rawusb

2004-12-15 Thread Rui Nuno Capela
> Stefan Turner > Rui, > > Thanks for your reply. I am trying to build Jack first > just to see if it'll work with the CCRMA Alsa I've > already got. So far I've done: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.35.3usx2y]# aclocal > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.35

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [Fwd: Graphical dataflow programs violatepatents]

2004-12-15 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Andreas Kuckartz hat gesagt: // Andreas Kuckartz wrote: > Paul Davis wrote: > > > its not that clear. according to the timeline provided at Ircam, > > "Patcher", the predecessor of Max, was started in 1986. i don't know > > if patcher had a visual dataflow model or not. Max itself didn't e

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [Fwd: Graphical dataflow programs violatepatents]

2004-12-15 Thread Andreas Kuckartz
Paul Davis wrote: > its not that clear. according to the timeline provided at Ircam, > "Patcher", the predecessor of Max, was started in 1986. i don't know > if patcher had a visual dataflow model or not. Max itself didn't exist > till 1990. Miller Puckette (the creator of Patcher and PD) probabl

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: rosegarden, alsa_seq and usx2y rawusb

2004-12-15 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 05:53:30PM +, Stefan Turner wrote: > I can't find anything about this file, not even in > configure.ac, and I really don't have a clue about > this kind of thing (sorry if it's something really > obvious). It certainly seems to stop the rest of the > build working thoug

[linux-audio-dev] Re: rosegarden, alsa_seq and usx2y rawusb

2004-12-15 Thread Stefan Turner
Rui, Thanks for your reply. I am trying to build Jack first just to see if it'll work with the CCRMA Alsa I've already got. So far I've done: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.35.3usx2y]# aclocal [EMAIL PROTECTED] jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.35.3usx2y]# autoheader [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [Fwd: Graphical dataflow programs violate patents]

2004-12-15 Thread Paul Winkler
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 02:30:09PM +0200, Juhana Sadeharju wrote: > When Csound type software was first written? 1960? 70? I assume you mean the "Music N" family of languages. Music IV dates to at least 1961 according to this page: http://music.dartmouth.edu/~wowem/electronmedia/music/eamhistory.h

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [Fwd: Graphical dataflow programs violate patents]

2004-12-15 Thread Jens M Andreasen
On ons, 2004-12-15 at 10:39 -0500, Fred Gleason wrote: > Not a patent on touchscreens, but on touchscreens, when used a certain way, > by > a certain industry, for a certain specific purpose. DRECK! Mares' nests, > one and all. Not that that stops any attorney -- straining at gnats and > sw

[linux-audio-dev] Re: [Fwd: Graphical dataflow programs violate patents]

2004-12-15 Thread Juhana Sadeharju
>From: Xavier Amatriain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> I read that National Circuits sued and won a case against Mathworks for >> their Simulink product infringing a number of paterns (September this >> year). The first patent should expire soon as their software Labview was launched 1986. It contains s

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [Fwd: Graphical dataflow programs violate patents]

2004-12-15 Thread Fred Gleason
On Wednesday 15 December 2004 05:27, Jens M Andreasen wrote: > Actually, the patent is not on graph-traversal as such, but on graph- > traversal in context with virtual instrumentation having some kind of > adjustable front-panel on screen ... It is a "methods" patent that only > applies when all

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [Fwd: Graphical dataflow programs violate patents]

2004-12-15 Thread Paul Davis
>Well, this patent is dated 1986. I'm pretty sure Max existed in some >form or another before then, right? its not that clear. according to the timeline provided at Ircam, "Patcher", the predecessor of Max, was started in 1986. i don't know if patcher had a visual dataflow model or not. Max itsel

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [Fwd: Graphical dataflow programs violate patents]

2004-12-15 Thread Dave Robillard
On Wed, 2004-15-12 at 11:27 +0100, Jens M Andreasen wrote: > On ons, 2004-12-15 at 00:11 -0500, Dave Robillard wrote: > > > Om, a modular synth I'm working on, absolutely "infringes" on that > > patent as well. The code that would be considered infringing is an > > elementary graph-traversal, ver

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [Fwd: Graphical dataflow programs violate patents]

2004-12-15 Thread Xavier Amatriain
The reason I forwarded the e-mail is that, as opposed to what has been said in the list, it turns out that stupid patents can be used to win (also stupid) court trials. Scary! On dc, 2004-12-15 at 12:03, Pau Arumi wrote: > > Actually, the patent is not on graph-traversal as such, but on graph- >

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [Fwd: Graphical dataflow programs violate patents]

2004-12-15 Thread Dave Robillard
On Wed, 2004-15-12 at 17:16 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 00:11:41 -0500 > Dave Robillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There's absolutely no way that someone can't find prior art for this. > > It's completely frivolous. > > Exactly. So why are you getting your knicke

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [Fwd: Graphical dataflow programs violate patents]

2004-12-15 Thread Pau Arumi
> Actually, the patent is not on graph-traversal as such, but on graph- > traversal in context with virtual instrumentation having some kind of > adjustable front-panel on screen ... It is a "methods" patent that only > applies when all the ingredients are in place. The prior art shown in > court

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [Fwd: Graphical dataflow programs violate patents]

2004-12-15 Thread Jens M Andreasen
On ons, 2004-12-15 at 00:11 -0500, Dave Robillard wrote: > Om, a modular synth I'm working on, absolutely "infringes" on that > patent as well. The code that would be considered infringing is an > elementary graph-traversal, very similar to a DFS (depth-first search) > algorithm you'd learn in an