Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-17 Thread Ingo Oeser
Hi Vincent, On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 01:43:03PM +0200, Vincent Touquet wrote: > That would be a showstopper for me :) > 1000$ is one thing, but I cannot afford 2500$+ We are always looking for cheaper alternatives. > I'll let you know when I get a Chameleon, > I could try to work with you to ge

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-16 Thread Vincent Touquet
On Fri, Aug 16, 2002 at 11:18:54AM +0200, Ingo Oeser wrote: (cut) >Price: We got them donated, but they cost about half a car, if > you get them new, we have been told. That would be a showstopper for me :) 1000$ is one thing, but I cannot afford 2500$+ It seems interesting though. I'll let y

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-16 Thread Ingo Oeser
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 09:24:31AM +0200, Vincent Touquet wrote: > >We would write drivers for exactly the 4 modes described above, > >so the DSP could actually just a kind of plugin to your sound > >architecture of choice. > Doesn't the fact that the Chameleon > sits in a rack defeat this purpose

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-14 Thread Vincent Touquet
On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 09:25:45PM +0200, Ingo Oeser wrote: (cut) Ok, I grasp your intent, its a good idea. Letting a DSP idle is not the best idea, so if you can use it for specific computations, that would be nice. >> Could you tell me exactly what you would >> do with this board and how that

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-13 Thread Ingo Oeser
On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 12:14:12PM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > The big advantage (IMHO) of DSP processors is the guaranteed execution > time, even if a current GPU can do more flops on average, you can;t rely > on getting the same ammount of work done each block. For things like > reverb algorith

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-13 Thread Ingo Oeser
Hi Vincent, On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 01:58:11PM +0200, Vincent Touquet wrote: > On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 09:44:23AM +0200, Ingo Oeser wrote: > >Give our project a sample board, a data sheet and some time then > >we'll integrate it into our Linux-DSP-Project. > >You can find it under > > http://o

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-13 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 01:54:14 +0200, Vincent Touquet wrote: > On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 12:14:12PM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > (cut) > >The Chameleon isn't quite as convienent as it can't be applied in-line as > >part of a LADSPA/JACK chain. > (cut) > > Wait for the digital IO in the next versi

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-13 Thread Vincent Touquet
On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 09:44:23AM +0200, Ingo Oeser wrote: (cut) >Give our project a sample board, a data sheet and some time then >we'll integrate it into our Linux-DSP-Project. (cut) I read your paper and it interests me to say the least. The thing that is driving me to use the Chameleon is it

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-13 Thread Vincent Touquet
On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 09:44:23AM +0200, Ingo Oeser wrote: >Give our project a sample board, a data sheet and some time then >we'll integrate it into our Linux-DSP-Project. >You can find it under > http://osg.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/forschung/linux+dsp/index.html I'm not sure I fully grasp t

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-13 Thread Vincent Touquet
On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 12:14:12PM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: (cut) >The Chameleon isn't quite as convienent as it can't be applied in-line as >part of a LADSPA/JACK chain. (cut) Wait for the digital IO in the next version :) Sure this is possible now too, but with extra D/A -> A/D -> Chameleon

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-13 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 09:44:23 +0200, Ingo Oeser wrote: > Give our project a sample board, a data sheet and some time then > we'll integrate it into our Linux-DSP-Project. Interesting. I was interested in accelerated LADSPA for while, similar to the accelerated VST that cards like the TC PowerC

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-13 Thread Ingo Oeser
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 06:49:41PM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > > Well, it uses a standard motorola dsp. > > I'm sure you can find a suitable compiler. > > Then you only need an editor and a way > > to send your data over in sysex. > > Shouldn't be hard :) > > Agreed, but it runs a propriatary fr

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-12 Thread Steve Harris
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 05:35:59 +0200, Vincent Touquet wrote: > On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 03:52:47PM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: > >Sadly it can't be programmed form linux (or couldn't last time I checked). > > Well, it uses a standard motorola dsp. > I'm sure you can find a suitable compiler. > Th

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-12 Thread Vincent Touquet
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 06:44:38PM +0200, Sebastien Metrot wrote: >Mine does :-) , but have you listened to the sample soundclips (the opera >singer)? It sounds so bad I wonder how they expect to sell anything with >such material. Here it sounds good actually :) Also expect loss of quality due t

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-12 Thread Sebastien Metrot
- Original Message - From: "Vincent Touquet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine > You get lowlatency without patches, > and: does your pc has programm

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-12 Thread Vincent Touquet
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 06:04:45PM +0200, wires wrote: >> Very much so :) >As a related question, how does this machine's speed compare to, say, a >modern pc (apart from the advantages of having a display etc)? That's comparing pears to apples ... The DSP runs at 100 Mhz, but its a *dedicated* pr

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-12 Thread wires
Quoting Vincent Touquet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > >Anyway, that thing looks usable. > > Very much so :) As a related question, how does this machine's speed compare to, say, a modern pc (apart from the advantages of having a display etc)? Jelle.

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-12 Thread Vincent Touquet
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 05:26:50PM +0200, Tim Goetze wrote: (cut) >Anyway, that thing looks usable. (cut) Very much so :) v

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-12 Thread Vincent Touquet
On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 03:52:47PM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: >Sadly it can't be programmed form linux (or couldn't last time I checked). Well, it uses a standard motorola dsp. I'm sure you can find a suitable compiler. Then you only need an editor and a way to send your data over in sysex. Shoul

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-12 Thread Tim Goetze
Steve Harris wrote: >Sadly it can't be programmed form linux (or couldn't last time I checked). > >- Steve > >On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 03:56:00 +0200, Vincent Touquet wrote: >> http://www.soundart-hot.com/developers1.htm Strange because they use all the GNU tools to compile the code for that thin

Re: [linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-12 Thread Steve Harris
Sadly it can't be programmed form linux (or couldn't last time I checked). - Steve On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 03:56:00 +0200, Vincent Touquet wrote: > http://www.soundart-hot.com/developers1.htm

[linux-audio-dev] [ANN] Chameleon DSP engine

2002-08-12 Thread Vincent Touquet
http://www.soundart-hot.com/developers1.htm Remembering past threads, i know some of you have wanted to create a fully programmable DSP engine. Well, it has been done. Separate DSP & controller, fully programmable display and IO. SDK and everything needed to program the beast are given away for