Re: [linux-audio-dev] {draft} setgid problems with GTK for realtime audio (long)

2003-12-12 Thread Paul Davis
>On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 10:56:17AM -0600, Jack O'Quin wrote: >> If refusing to run with any privileges is their goal, then they have >> failed completely. We do it all the time right now using JACK >> capabilities, which bypasses their checks entirely, or by running as >> root with `sudo' or `su'

Re: [linux-audio-dev] {draft} setgid problems with GTK for realtime audio (long)

2003-12-12 Thread Jesper Anderson
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 12:57:42PM -0600, Jack O'Quin wrote: > > > > Posix has no "thinking" regarding WIMPs > > Remind me what WIMPs stands for, so I can understand this comment. Window Icon MousePointer; just about synonymous with GUI. Jesper

Re: [linux-audio-dev] {draft} setgid problems with GTK for realtime audio (long)

2003-12-12 Thread Jack O'Quin
Jens M Andreasen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am in a very bad mood today, so I thought that it would be good for > you if I did some critisiscm of this draft. Good. Every project needs a curmudgeon. ;-) > On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 05:05, Jack O'Quin wrote: > > Historically, many Linux audio a

Re: [linux-audio-dev] {draft} setgid problems with GTK for realtime audio (long)

2003-12-12 Thread Tim Hockin
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 10:56:17AM -0600, Jack O'Quin wrote: > If refusing to run with any privileges is their goal, then they have > failed completely. We do it all the time right now using JACK > capabilities, which bypasses their checks entirely, or by running as > root with `sudo' or `su'. >

Re: [linux-audio-dev] {draft} setgid problems with GTK for realtime audio (long)

2003-12-12 Thread Jack O'Quin
Tim Janik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Unfortunately, audio applications using GTK cannot take full advantage > > of this option, because GTK refuses to run setgid. The unintended > > consequence of that policy is to *increase* our security exposure by > > forcing us to grant realtime privile

Re: [linux-audio-dev] {draft} setgid problems with GTK for realtime audio (long)

2003-12-12 Thread Jens M Andreasen
Hi Jack! I am in a very bad mood today, so I thought that it would be good for you if I did some critisiscm of this draft. Good news: No "Hallelujas" Bad news: I might go over the top? Nothing is personal. I just try to think from the perspective of the gtk-team. cheers // Jens M Andreasen O

Re: [linux-audio-dev] {draft} setgid problems with GTK for realtime audio (long)

2003-12-11 Thread Tim Janik
not meaning to start the actual discussion here, but to point out the more or less obvious contr points. On 11 Dec 2003, Jack O'Quin wrote: > > Problems with GTK > = > > Unfortunately, audio applications using GTK cannot take full advantage > of this option, because GTK refuses t

Re: [linux-audio-dev] {draft} setgid problems with GTK for realtime audio (long)

2003-12-11 Thread Tim Hockin
It needs some nice ending. We respectfully ask that you reconsider the implementation of this check. Or something

[linux-audio-dev] {draft} setgid problems with GTK for realtime audio (long)

2003-12-11 Thread Jack O'Quin
{This is a draft of a note for the GTK developers, requesting them to soften their position on disallowing setgid. Please post comments and suggestions. It carries more weight coming from a group of us. Also, please tell me where this is should go.} {The note seems overly long. Sugg