Re: [linux-audio-dev] Desktop Environments in the World of Pro Audio

2002-07-04 Thread Dave Phillips
Richard Bown wrote: > Both Chris and Guillaume were really pulling for gtk. It just never came > off. When the decision was made to move to KDE/Qt I trusted their judgement > as I was just glad to being doing anything that wasn't Xt/Xaw! > > I've got to say that we've never looked back. Perha

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Desktop Environments in the World of Pro Audio

2002-07-04 Thread Richard Bown
nick wrote: > Why are all the (major) sequencer projects built on Qt/KDE? i count > MuSE, Rosegarden and Anthem all on QT. Personally i'd much rather a GTK > sequencer, i'm sure others would like the choice too. For Rosegarden it's because we enjoy using Qt - it's stable and it's mature and it's

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Desktop Environments in the World of Pro Audio

2002-07-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Fred Gleason hat gesagt: // Fred Gleason wrote: > Interesting. I can't speak for GNOME (where my experience is nil), but in > Qt/KDE, the themeing is very much in the DE, not in Qt. I have heard some > faint rumblings that that might be changing in Qt 4, but thus far Trolltech > hasn't said

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Desktop Environments in the World of Pro Audio

2002-07-04 Thread Richard Bown
Fred Gleason wrote: > Any other potential downsides? It strikes me as absurd to be sitting here > bemoaning the primitive state of UIs on Linux audio apps while we have the > embarassment of riches called KDE and GNOME sitting here at our elbow. I quite agree. But then I would say that would

RE: [linux-audio-dev] Desktop Environments in the World of Pro Audio

2002-07-03 Thread Joachim Backhaus
> -Original Message- > From: Erik de Castro Lopo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Mittwoch, 3. Juli 2002 20:31 > > The main problem I see is that the extra features of KDE and > GNOME chew up > CPU grunt and RAM that would be better spent doing audio. What's with XFCE? http://www.x

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Desktop Environments in the World of Pro Audio

2002-07-03 Thread Paul Davis
>Most of this polish is aimed at office style work which is vastly >different from adio production. I simply have no need for my >diskrecorder to interoperat e with my calender or spreadsheet. Devils Advocate time: "Man, its so dumb. I have the whole studio schedule nicely organize

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Desktop Environments in the World of Pro Audio

2002-07-03 Thread Paul Davis
>> > particularly the whole issue of user interface consistency across >> > multiple apps. >> >> In the audio world there is quite a string move away from this. Witness all >> the cool custom GUI plugins on Win32 and Mac. > >You're right, and frankly, I hate it. It's plain silly to have to spend

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Desktop Environments in the World of Pro Audio

2002-07-03 Thread nick
I do get the feeling that desktops are not really well geared for audio work - theyre just too heavyweight these days - especially nautilus et al. on the GNOME side. Ideally, you'd use very a lightweight WM (black/fluxbox?). For serious audio work you wouldnt really want an email/IM/whatever clie

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Desktop Environments in the World of Pro Audio

2002-07-03 Thread Fred Gleason
On Wednesday 03 July 2002 14:31, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: > > particularly the whole issue of user interface consistency across > > multiple apps. > > In the audio world there is quite a string move away from this. Witness all > the cool custom GUI plugins on Win32 and Mac. You're right, and f

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Desktop Environments in the World of Pro Audio

2002-07-03 Thread Fred Gleason
On Wednesday 03 July 2002 15:41, Andy Wingo wrote: > A reason to have the file selector dialog at the "desktop lib" level > would be to allow the user to enter in a URI somehow, for use with a VFS > abstraction -- I think they are KIOSlaves in KDE, gnome-vfs in gnome. > I'm a G* man myself. This

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Desktop Environments in the World of Pro Audio

2002-07-03 Thread Fred Gleason
On Wednesday 03 July 2002 14:22, Paul Davis wrote: > You all just knew I'd be on this like a fly on cow dung, right? :))) :) > Theme Support: comes from the toolkit, not the DE. Interesting. I can't speak for GNOME (where my experience is nil), but in Qt/KDE, the themeing is very much in the

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Desktop Environments in the World of Pro Audio

2002-07-03 Thread Andy Wingo
On Wed, 03 Jul 2002, Paul Davis wrote: > You all just knew I'd be on this like a fly on cow dung, right? :))) > > >3) "GNOME and KDE are only suitable for office-automation applications" > >Much of the "eye-candy" in GNOME and KDE *is* done from the perspective of an > >office-automation type

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Desktop Environments in the World of Pro Audio

2002-07-03 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:05:11 -0400 Fred Gleason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Howdy Folks: > > However, I'm now beginning to wonder if in our collective disdain for such > environments we are not doing a disservice to our users. These environments > were created precisely so as to aid in the

Re: [linux-audio-dev] Desktop Environments in the World of Pro Audio

2002-07-03 Thread Paul Davis
You all just knew I'd be on this like a fly on cow dung, right? :))) >3) "GNOME and KDE are only suitable for office-automation applications" >Much of the "eye-candy" in GNOME and KDE *is* done from the perspective of an >office-automation type of application -- e.g. a word processor or a >sp

[linux-audio-dev] Desktop Environments in the World of Pro Audio

2002-07-03 Thread Fred Gleason
Howdy Folks: The discussion a few weeks back about "polishing" the user interface of Linux audio apps has set me thinking on the topic of Desktop Environments (e.g. GNOME or KDE). My sense is that most of the folks that hang out on LAD have chosen to eschew *direct* support for such things (